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looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186475] Fri, 05 October 2012 15:05 Go to next message
bronevaya is currently offline  bronevaya   United States
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so Ive done a search of these forums and everyone says to start at the 4 part connector under the generator. Well I took a look and I am not finding anything. could it be inside where the generator sits? if so how would I get to it all the way in the back? I took a photo so maybe someone could help me out by pointing to it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yltv77zzuz66qur/2012-10-05%2013.54.09.jpg


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Re: looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186477 is a reply to message #186475] Fri, 05 October 2012 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Brone, it looks like someone has spliced your wires. If you ran them all the way to the back of the compartment and found no connector that is what happened. I eliminated the connector and hard wired all 4 wires. My Onan would not shut off with remote switch. Works great now. Will your's not start, shut off, or both, from the remote switch?
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186480 is a reply to message #186475] Fri, 05 October 2012 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just pull your Onan out all the way and follow the cable that goes out of your control panel to the right side of the box that has the slides mounted on it. The connector will be behind the rear of the box on the right side.

To get to it you have to jack up the motorhome (put some wooden blocks under the frame) and crawl under the motorhome. Then reach up and behind and you should see the cable with the four wires and the connector.
I cut the wires one by one and put on a piece of heat shrink tubing and soldered the ends together. That was probably 15 or 20 years ago and the still work fine.


Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

On Oct 5, 2012, at 4:05 PM, michael <bronevaya@gmail.com> wrote:

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> so Ive done a search of these forums and everyone says to start at the 4 part connector under the generator. Well I took a look and I am not finding anything. could it be inside where the generator sits? if so how would I get to it all the way in the back? I took a photo so maybe someone could help me out by pointing to it.
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Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186482 is a reply to message #186480] Fri, 05 October 2012 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
J Moore is currently offline  J Moore   United States
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Emery or anyone on the list,

I am looking for a set of the old captains chairs, 78 Eleganza.
Color does not matter.
The ones with the drop down arm rests.
I am new to this, just got my coach 3 Mos ago.
If you can help, Thanks.
Dream Come True,
I'm sure nightmares to follow, had some already.
Don't Care..got nothing else to do but work on stuff.

THANKS, J






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From: Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start

Just pull your Onan out all the way and follow the cable that goes out of your control panel to the right side of the box that has the slides mounted on it. The connector will be behind the rear of the box on the right side.

To get to it you have to jack up the motorhome (put some wooden blocks under the frame) and crawl under the motorhome.  Then reach up and behind and you should see the cable with the four wires and the connector.
I cut the wires one by one and put on a piece of heat shrink tubing and soldered the ends together. That was probably 15 or 20 years ago and the still work fine.


Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

On Oct 5, 2012, at 4:05 PM, michael <bronevaya@gmail.com> wrote:

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> so Ive done a search of these forums and everyone says to start at the 4 part connector under the generator. Well I took a look and I am not finding anything. could it be inside where the generator sits? if so how would I get to it all the way in the back? I took a photo so maybe someone could help me out by pointing to it.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186489 is a reply to message #186482] Fri, 05 October 2012 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Sorry but when I tried to give them away there were no takers. I have thrown away 4 of them.

BUT, there are people taking them out all the time to replace them with more modern, more comfortable ones so just wait awhile and post your need on the net and you'll find some soon.



Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

On Oct 5, 2012, at 5:19 PM, J Moore <jmogofish@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Emery or anyone on the list,
>
> I am looking for a set of the old captains chairs, 78 Eleganza.
> Color does not matter.
> The ones with the drop down arm rests.
> I am new to this, just got my coach 3 Mos ago.
> If you can help, Thanks.
> Dream Come True,
> I'm sure nightmares to follow, had some already.
> Don't Care..got nothing else to do but work on stuff.
>
> THANKS, J
>
>
>
>
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> From: Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com>
> To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start
>
> Just pull your Onan out all the way and follow the cable that goes out of your control panel to the right side of the box that has the slides mounted on it. The connector will be behind the rear of the box on the right side.
>
> To get to it you have to jack up the motorhome (put some wooden blocks under the frame) and crawl under the motorhome. Then reach up and behind and you should see the cable with the four wires and the connector.
> I cut the wires one by one and put on a piece of heat shrink tubing and soldered the ends together. That was probably 15 or 20 years ago and the still work fine.
>
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
> On Oct 5, 2012, at 4:05 PM, michael <bronevaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> so Ive done a search of these forums and everyone says to start at the 4 part connector under the generator. Well I took a look and I am not finding anything. could it be inside where the generator sits? if so how would I get to it all the way in the back? I took a photo so maybe someone could help me out by pointing to it.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yltv77zzuz66qur/2012-10-05%2013.54.09.jpg
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>> Bham AL
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Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186497 is a reply to message #186482] Fri, 05 October 2012 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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J Moore wrote on Fri, 05 October 2012 16:19

Emery or anyone on the list,

I am looking for a set of the old captains chairs, 78 Eleganza.
Color does not matter.
The ones with the drop down arm rests.
I am new to this, just got my coach 3 Mos ago.
If you can help, Thanks.
Dream Come True,
I'm sure nightmares to follow, had some already.
Don't Care..got nothing else to do but work on stuff.

THANKS, J
I think I have a couple. Where are you?
Re: looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186503 is a reply to message #186477] Fri, 05 October 2012 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bronevaya is currently offline  bronevaya   United States
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mine will stop with remote switch but will not start. if you look closely at the picture there is a wire there that is not connecting to anything. could that be the start wire?

1977 Palm beach Bham AL
Welcome J - was fix the remote start [message #186518 is a reply to message #186482] Sat, 06 October 2012 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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J Moore wrote on Fri, 05 October 2012 17:19

Emery or anyone on the list,

I am looking for a set of the old captains chairs, 78 Eleganza.
Color does not matter.
The ones with the drop down arm rests.
I am new to this, just got my coach 3 Mos ago.
If you can help, Thanks.
Dream Come True,
I'm sure nightmares to follow, had some already.
Don't Care..got nothing else to do but work on stuff.

THANKS, J

J,

Welcome to the group/family/cult/asylum.

You should have started a new thread for this.

Highjacking a thread is a real bad idea. The worst part is that someone that might want to help may not be able to re-find your note as it is in and unrelated thread. Or, someone that could be help may skip your posting because it is buried in an unrelated thread he in which has no interest.

Do not just change the title. In the forum, it will stay in the thread, if you do that.
Pick "New Topic" at the top right.

It is also a real good idea to set up a sig file (do this in control panel/account settings) with a name, coach description and geographic reference so people that want to help know what you have and where you are without having to hunt the information.

If you make any required repairs and are diligent and conscientious about the maintenance, there may be no nightmares. You read very little here of coaches dead on the road. Please read all this carefully, you should carry some small spares of known problem parts (like your HEI module), just to be safe. But, many of the coaches you will meet have been a whole lot of miles.

Lastly, if you have been reading this board long, you will remember that I like welcome new owners. Part of the situation I discovered after owning a GMC for a while (not our first RV) was that the relationship with out coach and the community is very much like that of waterman and their boats (my world).
So, some time back, I decided to welcome new owners and coaches as we would welcome a new owner or vessel. And So,

May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.

Welcome J

Matt


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Re: looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186523 is a reply to message #186503] Sat, 06 October 2012 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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bronevaya wrote on Fri, 05 October 2012 20:44

mine will stop with remote switch but will not start. if you look closely at the picture there is a wire there that is not connecting to anything. could that be the start wire?

Certainly. With the Onan pulled out, look at the very back of the enclosure and see if you can see another wire. I did not need to crawl under mine to get to the plug. You may see the extra wire if you look close. Follow the other three back with your eyes and see if it is in there somewhere. Funny things happen to our coaches before we get them. I am sure the next owner of my coach will also feel the same way. If you have no luck, then we can run another wire to the board from the start switch.
Dan


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Re: looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186560 is a reply to message #186475] Sat, 06 October 2012 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had the same problem with my 77 PB ...

Turned out the connectors had butt splices crimped on and I cut the wires off and soldered all the connection so it won't happen again.

I trust solder and heat shrink, not butt splices ...

oh, yeah ... someone had used 110 volt zip wire to extend the wires and that also helped cause the problem because they were so long that there were getting jammed when the generator got pushed back in its cage.


Caspar Dioge
Re: [GMCnet] looking to fix the remote generator start [message #186704 is a reply to message #186503] Mon, 08 October 2012 11:57 Go to previous message
ChrisW6ATV is currently offline  ChrisW6ATV   United States
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Michael-

Your symptoms are the most common problem with the remote control. The
wire that is disconnected and/or corroded has 12 volts on it at all
times, so it is the first one to fail. Yours appears to be loose at the
Onan control panel itself rather than at a connector behind/under the
genarator, so you may need to look at the Onan electrical diagrams to
trace where it belongs.

Chris Musselman
'74 Sequoia
Hayward, Cal.

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