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furnace replacement [message #185843] Fri, 28 September 2012 08:23 Go to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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Just got back from Amana, and the rather chilly nights make me think that it may be time to consider replacing my original furnace (I have not used it as I disconnected the propane feed and don't trust a 37 year old furnace). I did use an electric heater which did help somewhat, but getting out from under the blankets took a bit of encouragement early in the morning!

The Atwood furnaces seem nice and I like the idea of outside access to the furnace. What BTU sizes have people installed in their coaches? I don't see myself doing any sub-freezing camping, but would like to have the chill taken out of the coach.

Thanks for any input.


George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185845 is a reply to message #185843] Fri, 28 September 2012 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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have you read here?
http://gmcmotorhome.info/heat.html#solaire

gene


>
> Just got back from Amana, and the rather chilly nights make me think that
> it may be time to consider replacing my original furnace (I have not used
> it as I disconnected the propane feed and don't trust a 37 year old
> furnace). I did use an electric heater which did help somewhat, but
> getting out from under the blankets took a bit of encouragement early in
> the morning!
>
> The Atwood furnaces seem nice and I like the idea of outside access to the
> furnace. What BTU sizes have people installed in their coaches? I don't
> see myself doing any sub-freezing camping, but would like to have the chill
> taken out of the coach.
>
> Thanks for any input.
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185847 is a reply to message #185843] Fri, 28 September 2012 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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George,

Go here for information.
http://gmcmotorhomeinfo.com/heat.html#solaire

The Suburban NT-30 is almost a direct replacement.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3023-furnace-ii.html

What you have to do is find the best price. I would avoid any used
unit.

I give these only as examples.

http://www.rvpartsoutlet.com/product_info.php?cPath=873_91&products_id=6110
or
http://goo.gl/ClFim

http://www.adventurerv.net/suburban-nt30sp-nt30sp-series-ducted-furnace-30000-btu-p-3835.html
or
http://goo.gl/bZP0l

If you look around you might find a good deal. If you go too small
you will not get enough heat for the coach, the 30K btu unit is what
you want.

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan

On Sep 28, 2012, at 9:23 AM, George Rudawsky wrote:

>
>
> Just got back from Amana, and the rather chilly nights make me think
> that it may be time to consider replacing my original furnace (I
> have not used it as I disconnected the propane feed and don't trust
> a 37 year old furnace). I did use an electric heater which did help
> somewhat, but getting out from under the blankets took a bit of
> encouragement early in the morning!
>
> The Atwood furnaces seem nice and I like the idea of outside access
> to the furnace. What BTU sizes have people installed in their
> coaches? I don't see myself doing any sub-freezing camping, but
> would like to have the chill taken out of the coach.
>
> Thanks for any input.
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185851 is a reply to message #185843] Fri, 28 September 2012 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lemme know what you end up with.  I fired mine up a while back and got a nice heat plus the smell of a propane burner, so I shut it off and arranged the BWD across the covers.  My new A/C is a heat pump, but Dometic says don't expect it to heat below aboput 40 degrees outside.  I do a show in N MS in late January every year and it can get nippy there.
 
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach

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Just got back from Amana, and the rather chilly nights make me think that it may be time to consider replacing my original furnace (I have not used it as I disconnected the propane feed and don't trust a 37 year old furnace).  I did use an electric heater which did help somewhat, but getting out from under the blankets took a bit of encouragement early in the morning!

The Atwood furnaces seem nice and I like the idea of outside access to the furnace.  What BTU sizes have people installed in their coaches?  I don't see myself doing any sub-freezing camping, but would like to have the chill taken out of the coach. 

Thanks for any input.
--
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185852 is a reply to message #185843] Fri, 28 September 2012 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RicksGMC is currently offline  RicksGMC   United States
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George,
I just replaced mine with the Suburban NT-30, it was a pretty straight forward replacement for the original. It used the original vent holes on the outside which was nice, just had to build a sloped base to compensate for the curved wall and modify the duct work to match the old. So far it's working very well.

Regards,
Rick

Rick Drummond
Prior Lake MN
1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
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On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> Just got back from Amana, and the rather chilly nights make me think that it may be time to consider replacing my original furnace (I have not used it as I disconnected the propane feed and don't trust a 37 year old furnace). I did use an electric heater which did help somewhat, but getting out from under the blankets took a bit of encouragement early in the morning!
>
> The Atwood furnaces seem nice and I like the idea of outside access to the furnace. What BTU sizes have people installed in their coaches? I don't see myself doing any sub-freezing camping, but would like to have the chill taken out of the coach.
>
> Thanks for any input.
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185879 is a reply to message #185851] Fri, 28 September 2012 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Fri, 28 September 2012 06:56

...  I fired mine up a while back and got a nice heat plus the smell of a propane burner, so I shut it off and arranged the BWD across the covers.  My new A/C is a heat pump, but Dometic says don't expect it to heat below aboput 40 degrees outside. ...


(for others: BWD = Big White Dog)

So... a one dog night.

An unused furnace collects dust on the burner that smells "odd" the first time it is fired up.

Do a visual on the burner before using and ALWAYS have a working CO detector when heating with anything other than electric.

Yes, heat pumps have a lower limit to their usefulness in colder weather. Also a roof mounted heater heats the air near the heater... up near the roof!



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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185880 is a reply to message #185852] Fri, 28 September 2012 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this is how I did mine:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4654-suburban-sf30-furance.html

posted on the THE GMC MOTORHOME PHOTO ARCHIVE

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/ bill

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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185888 is a reply to message #185879] Fri, 28 September 2012 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

I have two Dometic Brisk Air units with the heat strip. I can rotate the outlet guide vanes and direct the airflow downwards when
its on.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller

(for others: BWD = Big White Dog)

So... a one dog night.

An unused furnace collects dust on the burner that smells "odd" the first time it is fired up.

Do a visual on the burner before using and ALWAYS have a working CO detector when heating with anything other than electric.

Yes, heat pumps have a lower limit to their usefulness in colder weather. Also a roof mounted heater heats the air near the
heater... up near the roof!

Mike

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Re: [GMCnet] furnace replacement [message #185900 is a reply to message #185879] Sat, 29 September 2012 08:31 Go to previous message
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There's enough air blast to get the heat down to the floor.  It does a good job of circulating cool too, even unducted from the roof. 
Of interest, the combustion blower failed on my home A/C-furnace.  It makes a lot more sense than the RV ones - it is mounted as a suction, so it pulls the air out and leaves the combustion chamber at a slightly negative pressure rather than a positive.  And, although the attendant water vapor and heat going over the blower wheel are probably why it rusted to nothingness in 6 years, it is a LOT safer than one which pressurizes the combustion chamber.  I'd pay the extra for a stainless one in this service...
 
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach

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Johnny Bridges wrote on Fri, 28 September 2012 06:56
> ...  I fired mine up a while back and got a nice heat plus the smell of a propane burner, so I shut it off and arranged the BWD across the covers.  My new A/C is a heat pump, but Dometic says don't expect it to heat below aboput 40 degrees outside. ...


(for others: BWD = Big White Dog)

So... a one dog night. 

An unused furnace collects dust on the burner that smells "odd" the first time it is fired up.

Do a visual on the burner before using and ALWAYS have a working CO detector when heating with anything other than electric.

Yes, heat pumps have a lower limit to their usefulness in colder weather.  Also a roof mounted heater heats the air near the heater... up near the roof!


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