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A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Kerry Pinkerton has agreed to pass along to me that 23' Sequoia he bought a few weeks ago for a good price. The problem is that I don't have acceptable parking for two. So the "old" one has to go. I am caught in a dilemma. There are too many serious problems with the "old" one to get anything for it. But the CFO wants me to get something for it.
Despite its problems, I do not want the old one to end up being parted out. I bought it to prevent that. The frame is rusted at the bogeys and needs to be replaced, and the engine had gas in the oil from a bad mechanical fuel pump (don't know if/how much it ran like that). With those problems, and whatever else is wrong from sitting for 14 years, would I be wasting my time trying to get it running well enough for someone to try to drive home, or resign myself to the fact that transportation charges to trailer it somewhere would be more than it is worth?
If it ends up as a parts donor, then I have failed as its "guardian". If I can't get anything for it, I have failed the CFO.
Does anybody have any suggestions? (paying for storage won't be considered)
Re: Too Many GMCs [message #185128 is a reply to message #185124] Wed, 19 September 2012 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ahamilto wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 17:46

... The frame is rusted at the bogeys and needs to be replaced, and the engine had gas in the oil from a bad mechanical fuel pump ...


Unfortunately, a rusted frame pretty much destroys any value in a coach. IF a coach has a really nice body/interior/paint job, it might be worth it to replace the frame rails. Another option is to pick up another (basket case) coach with a good frame and swap frames. Keeping all the good parts on one and parting out the other.


This doesn't seem to be an economic option for this coach.

Sad.



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Re: Too Many GMCs [message #185130 is a reply to message #185128] Wed, 19 September 2012 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike Miller wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 20:28

Unfortunately, a rusted frame pretty much destroys any value in a coach. IF a coach has a really nice body/interior/paint job, it might be worth it to replace the frame rails. Another option is to pick up another (basket case) coach with a good frame and swap frames. Keeping all the good parts on one and parting out the other.


This doesn't seem to be an economic option for this coach.

Sad.
I know where there is such a "basket case", and was expecting to do that, until Kerry's temptation materialized. Mine has a nice body, but not a good paint job. I think I have everything to restore the interior to original, which may or may not be desirable to the next owner (if there is going to be one). And I have everything to install dash A/C except a dehydrator (cheap and easy). The fridge roof vent was missing when I acquired it, and I have yet to find out how much water damage that caused in the cabinets and floor underneath it.
Any takers now that I have built it up even more?
Re: Too Many GMCs [message #185136 is a reply to message #185130] Thu, 20 September 2012 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ahamilto wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 19:24

... I know where there is such a "basket case", and was expecting to do that, until Kerry's temptation materialized. Mine has a nice body, but not a good paint job. I think I have everything to restore the interior to original, which may or may not be desirable to the next owner (if there is going to be one). And I have everything to install dash A/C except a dehydrator (cheap and easy). The fridge roof vent was missing when I acquired it, and I have yet to find out how much water damage that caused in the cabinets and floor underneath it.
Any takers now that I have built it up even more?


What year and model is your 1st coach?

I know you said the frame is rusted, but how "rusted" is it? Does it just "look" bad or is the frame so bad that the wheels no longer stay straight up and down? IE: Could it be driven/used for a bit if the motor worked?

You might be in a catch 22:
-- You do not want to see another one parted out.
-- It will not move on it's own.
-- The whole coach isn't worth the transportation cost to move.
-- You might be able to get enough back to satisfy the CFO by selling one part at a time.
-- I get the impression you do NOT want to part it out while it is setting in the driveway. I expect this wouldn't fly with your CFO anyway... My other half would not be very happy with a parted out coach in the driveway... even for just a few weeks.

Where is this coach currently located?

Maybe "someone" has some space to put the coach for parting out or repair... close enough to just drag it over with a tow strap. While not likely... it could happen.

Pictures might get someone interested.



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Re: [GMCnet] Too Many GMCs [message #185140 is a reply to message #185130] Thu, 20 September 2012 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A:  Contact me off list please.  If you part it out, there's some stuff I might want.
 
Thanks,
 
Johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
 

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Mike Miller wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 20:28
> Unfortunately, a rusted frame pretty much destroys any value in a coach.  IF a coach has a really nice body/interior/paint job, it might be worth it to replace the frame rails.  Another option is to pick up another (basket case) coach with a good frame and swap frames.  Keeping all the good parts on one and parting out the other.
>
>
> This doesn't seem to be an economic option for this coach.
>
> Sad.
I know where there is such a "basket case", and was expecting to do that, until Kerry's temptation materialized.  Mine has a nice body, but not a good paint job.  I think I have everything to restore the interior to original, which may or may not be desirable to the next owner (if there is going to be one).  And I have everything to install dash A/C except a dehydrator (cheap and easy).  The fridge roof vent was missing when I acquired it, and I have yet to find out how much water damage that caused in the cabinets and floor underneath it.
Any takers now that I have built it up even more?
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Re: [GMCnet] Too Many GMCs [message #185141 is a reply to message #185140] Thu, 20 September 2012 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oops.. contact me at jhbridgesatymaildotcom please.


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A:  Contact me off list please.  If you part it out, there's some stuff I might want.
 
Thanks,
 
Johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
 

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Mike Miller wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 20:28
> Unfortunately, a rusted frame pretty much destroys any value in a coach.  IF a coach has a really nice body/interior/paint job, it might be worth it to replace the frame rails.  Another option is to pick up another (basket case) coach with a good frame and swap frames.  Keeping all the good parts on one and parting out the other.
>
>
> This doesn't seem to be an economic option for this coach.
>
> Sad.
I know where there is such a "basket case", and was expecting to do that, until Kerry's temptation materialized.  Mine has a nice body, but not a good paint job.  I think I have everything to restore the interior to original, which may or may not be desirable to the next owner (if there is going to be one).  And I have everything to install dash A/C except a dehydrator (cheap and easy).  The fridge roof vent was missing when I acquired it, and I have yet to find out how much water damage that caused in the cabinets and floor underneath it.
Any takers now that I have built it up even more?
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UA (Upper Alabama)
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Re: Too Many GMCs [message #185152 is a reply to message #185124] Thu, 20 September 2012 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a guy in Bessemer who does most of my heavy GMC work. He owns 3 or 4 and pieces together his from the others he owns. Not sure if he needs/wants another one, but he told me has one with a beautiful frame but junk for mechanicals. I believe it's a 26, but I could be wrong. PM me if you want his name. As I said, I don't know if he would be interested, but it might be worth asking him.

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Too Many GMCs [message #185164 is a reply to message #185124] Thu, 20 September 2012 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I might be interested if we can figure out logistics. In any event, would be interested in an original dinette. Sent you a PM. Thanks, Devin

Devin Wells Nashville, Tennessee 1974 GMC Sequoia 260 "Gilligan"

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A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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All,

Thanks for the responses. It runs, but the best way to drive it away would probably be with an outboard motor tank on gravity feed (unless the next owner wants to spring for a fuel pump and steel line to carb). Don't know if the brakes work. I am pretty sure the least expensive way to move it would be to drive it, if the brakes are made safe and the frame will hold together. I will see if I can find a camera and post some pictures of the frame where it is rusted.
If I sell it complete, and the new owner wants to drive it, I will assist (provide labor) in getting it ready to roll. I don't think anyone wants to put too many dollars in it.
Life piled up on me yesterday, so pictures and commitments to potential buyers will have to wait until next week.
Re: Too Many GMCs [message #185172 is a reply to message #185171] Thu, 20 September 2012 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Forgot to mention I will be mixing and matching stuff from the old and new. Old has a Kohler generator, which might move to the new instead of putzing with the Onan. Also, the screen door on the old is probably going to get transferred to the new. You get the idea.
Re: [GMCnet] Too Many GMCs [message #185175 is a reply to message #185124] Thu, 20 September 2012 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your chances of selling that are nil in my book. Having to reframe is a
real deal killer. However, sometimes coaches that are parted out give
life to others that would or should have, met with the same fate. In the
right hands, GMC parts seldom go to waste.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:46 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> Kerry Pinkerton has agreed to pass along to me that 23' Sequoia he bought
> a few weeks ago for a good price. The problem is that I don't have
> acceptable parking for two. So the "old" one has to go. I am caught in a
> dilemma. There are too many serious problems with the "old" one to get
> anything for it. But the CFO wants me to get something for it.
> Despite its problems, I do not want the old one to end up being parted
> out. I bought it to prevent that. The frame is rusted at the bogeys and
> needs to be replaced, and the engine had gas in the oil from a bad
> mechanical fuel pump (don't know if/how much it ran like that). With those
> problems, and whatever else is wrong from sitting for 14 years, would I be
> wasting my time trying to get it running well enough for someone to try to
> drive home, or resign myself to the fact that transportation charges to
> trailer it somewhere would be more than it is worth?
> If it ends up as a parts donor, then I have failed as its "guardian". If
> I can't get anything for it, I have failed the CFO.
> Does anybody have any suggestions? (paying for storage won't be considered)
> --
> '73 23' CanyonLands
> UA (Upper Alabama)
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Re: [GMCnet] Too Many GMCs [message #186955 is a reply to message #185175] Thu, 11 October 2012 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have let this simmer in the back of my mind for a couple weeks, and have been watching ebay and craigslist for a lot longer than that. I think the '73 CanyonLands would be worth about $2000 in the right hands. I can probably be persuaded to take less, but not $0.
It has ZipDee awnings on both sides, the one on the passenger side is pretty big, the one on the driver's side only shades the windows.
Anyone that tells me they want to put it back in service will get most consideration for amounts less than $2000.
Anyone wanting to part it out would have to cough up close to $2000.
Is that reasonable? I have typed up a long description that I can post if anybody is interested. let me know.
Re: [GMCnet] Too Many GMCs [message #187226 is a reply to message #186955] Sun, 14 October 2012 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:44 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> I have let this simmer in the back of my mind for a couple weeks, and have
> been watching ebay and craigslist for a lot longer than that. I think the
> '73 CanyonLands would be worth about $2000 in the right hands. I can
> probably be persuaded to take less, but not $0.
> It has ZipDee awnings on both sides, the one on the passenger side is
> pretty big, the one on the driver's side only shades the windows.
> Anyone that tells me they want to put it back in service will get most
> consideration for amounts less than $2000.
> Anyone wanting to part it out would have to cough up close to $2000.
> Is that reasonable? I have typed up a long description that I can post if
> anybody is interested. let me know.
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Re: [GMCnet] Too Many GMCs [message #187229 is a reply to message #187226] Sun, 14 October 2012 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry Tandy wrote on Sun, 14 October 2012 14:16

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I replied via email. The "sales pitch" is a bit long so I haven't posted it here. If anybody is interested in a copy, let me know and I will send it either by PM or email (or will post here if "demand" is high).
Re: Too Many GMCs [message #187254 is a reply to message #185124] Sun, 14 October 2012 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nothing wrong with parting out an old girl with bad bones, so long as some of her lives on in other coaches.

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Re: Too Many GMCs [message #187258 is a reply to message #187254] Sun, 14 October 2012 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chr$ wrote on Sun, 14 October 2012 17:43

Nothing wrong with parting out an old girl with bad bones, so long as some of her lives on in other coaches.
Maybe so. But I am not going to do it, for more than just reluctance to terminate the possibility of restoration.
I do not have room to keep it while I dismantle it, and nowhere to store the parts as they are removed. Someone else is going to have to do the dirty deed.
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Nothing wrong with parting out an old girl with bad bones, so long as some of her lives on in other coaches.
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