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[GMCnet] the blackwater follies [message #184980] Tue, 18 September 2012 12:45 Go to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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OK, so I got everything off the tank and replaced the valve.  Tank's got a crack on the bottom along the rear edge for an inch or so.  Someone had the repair proess in their photos on the photo site.  Can someone remind me who that was?  I'm cleaning, gonna have to work the inside portion using a service mirror.  Today it's raining like all the proverbial things, so hopefully tomorrow - Thursday will be sufficient to repair it.  I have a show this weekend and the coach is going.  Worst case we'll use the bathhouse and skip even hoioking the water up... but at my age one does have to go in the middle of the night sometimes... it will be much nicer with working plumbing.
 
--johnny
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Re: [GMCnet] the blackwater follies [message #184997 is a reply to message #184980] Tue, 18 September 2012 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Johnny,

C'set moi!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p28384-holding-tank-repair.html

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges

OK, so I got everything off the tank and replaced the valve.  Tank's got a crack on the bottom along the rear edge for an inch or
so.  Someone had the repair proess in their photos on the photo site.  Can someone remind me who that was?  I'm cleaning, gonna have
to work the inside portion using a service mirror.  Today it's raining like all the proverbial things, so hopefully tomorrow -
Thursday will be sufficient to repair it.  I have a show this weekend and the coach is going.  Worst case we'll use the bathhouse
and skip even hoioking the water up... but at my age one does have to go in the middle of the night sometimes... it will be much
nicer with working plumbing.
 
--johnny

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Re: [GMCnet] the blackwater follies [message #184998 is a reply to message #184980] Tue, 18 September 2012 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just repaired mine. and I feel good about how it turned out. so far no drips with 1/2 tank of bad stuff sitting in there since the weekend.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6172-black-tank-repair.html

Gravity was a real bugger on the repair of this crack. if a person could pull the tank and have gravity on there side it would go better. just be prepared for the gravity effect.

the plastic melts together pretty nice. so I would think that plastic welding would work best. I melted the crack together using a map gas torch heating an old soldering pen. If I had could of gotten stuff to drip upwards, it would of been really good to melt a piece of metal window screen into it. but gravity just had the screen falling down.

I used permatex plastic tank epoxy. it seemed to cure and hold well. I had alot of it on my hands and ground, again due to working upside down.

i coated that with 3m 5300 marine sealant.

the 3m stuff took a week to dry. at least 2 days to be safe to touch it. so if you are in a hurry. do not use the 3m stuff.

good luck. I do not think there is any guarantees on this.





Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] the blackwater follies [message #185065 is a reply to message #184997] Wed, 19 September 2012 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Thanks.  Frady put me onto the stuff he uses, Plastic Weld.  I be;ieve I can get to the crack from the inside as well, I'm cleaning and then roughing up the surfacde with a wire brush in my Dremel.  Then I can set the plastic weld on each side.
 
--johnny

From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:48 PM
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Johnny,

C'set moi!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p28384-holding-tank-repair.html

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges

OK, so I got everything off the tank and replaced the valve.  Tank's got a crack on the bottom along the rear edge for an inch or
so.  Someone had the repair proess in their photos on the photo site.  Can someone remind me who that was?  I'm cleaning, gonna have
to work the inside portion using a service mirror.  Today it's raining like all the proverbial things, so hopefully tomorrow -
Thursday will be sufficient to repair it.  I have a show this weekend and the coach is going.  Worst case we'll use the bathhouse
and skip even hoioking the water up... but at my age one does have to go in the middle of the night sometimes... it will be much
nicer with working plumbing.
 
--johnny

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Re: [GMCnet] the blackwater follies [message #185093 is a reply to message #185065] Wed, 19 September 2012 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=Johnny Bridges wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 04:12]Thanks.  Frady put me onto the stuff he uses, Plastic Weld.  I be;ieve I can get to the crack from the inside as well, I'm cleaning and then roughing up the surfacde with a wire brush in my Dremel.  Then I can set the plastic weld on each side.
 
--johnny

From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:48 PM
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Johnny,

C'set moi!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p28384-holding-tank-repair.html


If the tank is out you might have better luck with a large soldering iron and apiece of similar plastic.If I remember right it is ABS.



Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] the blackwater follies [message #185095 is a reply to message #185093] Wed, 19 September 2012 12:56 Go to previous message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Roy,
 
The tank ain't out.  And hopefully won't need to be taken out.  The people at Norris Coach saw fit to bend the mounting bolts up inside the channel supports for the tank.   Consequently they can't be cut off.  To remove them, I'll have to straighten them enough to get a socket and breaker bar on them and then wring them in half.  I rather not do that.

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[quote title=Johnny Bridges wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 04:12]Thanks.  Frady put me onto the stuff he uses, Plastic Weld.  I be;ieve I can get to the crack from the inside as well, I'm cleaning and then roughing up the surfacde with a wire brush in my Dremel.  Then I can set the plastic weld on each side.
 
--johnny

From: Rob Mueller <mailto:robmueller@iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] the blackwater follies

Johnny,

C'set moi!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p28384-holding-tank-repair.html


If the tank is out you might have better luck with a large soldering iron and apiece of similar plastic.If I remember right it is ABS.


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Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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