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Thu, 06 September 2012 04:28  |
59ona64
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Has anybody used 12"x12" or 18"x18" vinyl stick-on tile for their coach? This seems ideal for us--durable, flexible, cheap, easy installation, easy replacement of damaged tiles, etc.
Here's what I'm looking at:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_208426-61-A3239051_4294773819__?productId=3024166&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_produc t_qty_sales_dollar%7C1&facetInfo=
They all seem to be 2 mm thick, though thicker would be nicer, I'm guessing--softer to walk on, better insulating/sound-deadening, more flexible.
I'd love to hear your thoughts and experience. I'm not up to the job of carpeting, and since we will be using our coach (once purchased...) in a sandy area, it would be easy to sweep out (vs. carpet) and keep clean. We also have two dogs that shed a bit, so dog hair would be easily removed.
I imagine I would still carpet the front seat area, the step and around the dinette (in a Royale), where the carpet typically goes up the sides and back of the bench seating. I wouldn't mind the tiles there, either, but would the glue melt here in AZ and have me returning to a sticky mess of tiles having fallen down. Shoot, I'd be open to tiling the step and doghouse/front seat area, too, if it was flat enough--would the tiles flex enough, but stayed stuck down, on any curved areas (like where the feet go when sitting in the passenger seat, up to the under-dash area? I feel like I'm doing a terrible job saying something really easy--it's late, and I'm not hitting on all cylinders...
Thanks!
Dave
Dave >Wannabe< Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183326 is a reply to message #183281] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 10:09  |
powerjon
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I have not had good results in the past with the stick-on tile. It
just doesn't stay stuck! If your in an area that the coach interior
would get very hot the tile may delaminate. You might be happier with
a Pergo or "Pergo style" wood floor. I have put that in my coaches in
the past, because we could keep the Florida sand out of the carpet.
The laminate floors today are very durable and depending on price you
have a large range of options.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5344-pergo-floor-install.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5976-pergo-floor-install-stretch.html
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Dave wrote:
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> Has anybody used 12"x12" or 18"x18" vinyl stick-on tile for their
> coach? This seems ideal for us--durable, flexible, cheap, easy
> installation, easy replacement of damaged tiles, etc.
>
> Here's what I'm looking at:
>
> http://www.lowes.com/pd_208426-61-A3239051_4294773819__?productId=3024166&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar
> |1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar%7C1&facetInfo=
>
> They all seem to be 2 mm thick, though thicker would be nicer, I'm
> guessing--softer to walk on, better insulating/sound-deadening, more
> flexible.
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts and experience. I'm not up to the job
> of carpeting, and since we will be using our coach (once
> purchased...) in a sandy area, it would be easy to sweep out (vs.
> carpet) and keep clean. We also have two dogs that shed a bit, so
> dog hair would be easily removed.
>
> I imagine I would still carpet the front seat area, the step and
> around the dinette (in a Royale), where the carpet typically goes up
> the sides and back of the bench seating. I wouldn't mind the tiles
> there, either, but would the glue melt here in AZ and have me
> returning to a sticky mess of tiles having fallen down. Shoot, I'd
> be open to tiling the step and doghouse/front seat area, too, if it
> was flat enough--would the tiles flex enough, but stayed stuck down,
> on any curved areas (like where the feet go when sitting in the
> passenger seat, up to the under-dash area? I feel like I'm doing a
> terrible job saying something really easy--it's late, and I'm not
> hitting on all cylinders...
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
> --
> Dave >Wannabe< Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183425 is a reply to message #183326] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 18:55 |
Len Novak
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I put down a laminate floor, works like a champ!
Len and Pat
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor
I have not had good results in the past with the stick-on tile. It
just doesn't stay stuck! If your in an area that the coach interior
would get very hot the tile may delaminate. You might be happier with
a Pergo or "Pergo style" wood floor. I have put that in my coaches in
the past, because we could keep the Florida sand out of the carpet.
The laminate floors today are very durable and depending on price you
have a large range of options.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5344-pergo-floor-install.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5976-pergo-floor-install-stretch.html
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Dave wrote:
>
>
> Has anybody used 12"x12" or 18"x18" vinyl stick-on tile for their
> coach? This seems ideal for us--durable, flexible, cheap, easy
> installation, easy replacement of damaged tiles, etc.
>
> Here's what I'm looking at:
>
>
http://www.lowes.com/pd_208426-61-A3239051_4294773819__?productId=3024166&Ns
=p_product_qty_sales_dollar
> |1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar%7C1&facetInfo=
>
> They all seem to be 2 mm thick, though thicker would be nicer, I'm
> guessing--softer to walk on, better insulating/sound-deadening, more
> flexible.
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts and experience. I'm not up to the job
> of carpeting, and since we will be using our coach (once
> purchased...) in a sandy area, it would be easy to sweep out (vs.
> carpet) and keep clean. We also have two dogs that shed a bit, so
> dog hair would be easily removed.
>
> I imagine I would still carpet the front seat area, the step and
> around the dinette (in a Royale), where the carpet typically goes up
> the sides and back of the bench seating. I wouldn't mind the tiles
> there, either, but would the glue melt here in AZ and have me
> returning to a sticky mess of tiles having fallen down. Shoot, I'd
> be open to tiling the step and doghouse/front seat area, too, if it
> was flat enough--would the tiles flex enough, but stayed stuck down,
> on any curved areas (like where the feet go when sitting in the
> passenger seat, up to the under-dash area? I feel like I'm doing a
> terrible job saying something really easy--it's late, and I'm not
> hitting on all cylinders...
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
> --
> Dave >Wannabe< Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183430 is a reply to message #183281] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 19:40 |
Carl S.
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Dave,
I used 18" X 18" self stick vinyl tiles (from Lowe's) on my kitchen backsplash. In spite of using the recommended primer, some of them came loose. I peeled them back off and re-attached them using Weldwood Contact Cement. Problem solved. They are still holding, nice and tight, a year later (coach parked outside in Tucson).
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/counter-top-etc/p40839-completed-backsplash.html
Carl (currently in Jonestown PA.)
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183442 is a reply to message #183430] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 21:03 |
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The 23 ft that Kerry Pinkerton purchased had a beautiful real ceramic tile floor installed. When I asked the guy who did the floor, hoe did he prevent it from breaking, he said that they installed the tile with liquid nails to the plywood subfloor. The liquid nails allows for the needed flex. He used a polyurethane based caulk in between the tiles for grout. Since the coach was used as a week-end coach, with many trips to fishing lakes, I think it demonstrated it could take the flexing of the floor.
It did look good, with no visible damage.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183443 is a reply to message #183430] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 21:06 |
John Sharpe
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Dave, those look remarkably like the ones I installed in my coach. I used the recommended primer and they seem to have stayed on the floor. The problem is the heat has caused the individual tile to shrink. This caused a gap around all the tiles. Probably sheet vinyl would be the way to go. I was considering using one of the floating vinyl types. Laminate won't work for me because the floor is ramped for the wheelchair. Laminate doesn't bend very well.
I would not try to use these again and no- they will not stay stuck in the cockpit floor area.
John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183473 is a reply to message #183281] |
Fri, 07 September 2012 00:07 |
Coelli
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Dave! I was just wondering if you'd found your coach yet.
I think we've decided to go with a cork floor when we do ours. There are a few types - unfinished tiles, pre-finished, or plank (like laminate). The plank has the advantage that it can be laid as a floating floor but it does require a miter or table saw to cut the pieces to go around edges. It also bends and flexes and, well, floats.
The tiles are glued down and are very easy to cut. It's also cheaper that way than the planks, unless you go for some of the cool colors available and then it gets spendy. The tiles are easier to shape up and around things. I am not sure if they'd shrink but as we're also in a hot climate that's something to consider. I'm still leaning more toward the tiles (they weigh less than the planks, too). You can do some cool patterns if you feel like it. Not sure yet if we do. 
In any case the cork is lightweight, easy to clean, soft and quiet underfoot, stays warmer when it's cold, and doesn't show dirt too much. We looked at the vinyl tile but didn't find anything we really liked out of what they had at Lowe's.
Meghan
1976 Eleganza II, Los Angeles, CA
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183474 is a reply to message #183281] |
Fri, 07 September 2012 00:11 |
59ona64
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Wow, thank you for all of the input. It never occurred to me that the tiles would shrink. Carl, have you noticed any shrinking on your backsplash?
I like the laminate idea, but the tile thing just seemed so simple. Real tile put on with Liquid Nails, "grouted" with silicon. Amazing.
There's still time to ruminate and obsess. That's what I do...I can't imagine what will happen when we actually get a coach! Maybe Saturday...
Dave >Wannabe< Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183480 is a reply to message #183281] |
Fri, 07 September 2012 03:47 |
59ona64
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Meghan--I think I have found my coach. Mark will check it out Saturday. I have an obligation with the students at church on Saturday, but I may hand that off so I can join him, and then drive it back to AZ. Whoa!!!
I really like the idea of cork! Soft, deadens noise, flexible...I wonder if anyone has done this and/or can comment on shrinkage in hot areas.
Carl--nice work on your kitchen! I showed my wife, and she perked up. While not the biggest fan of getting a coach, she is so kind to humor me and give it a shot. The counter space gained by going with a 2-burner stove seems like a huge win to me, especially since I'll be able to use a coffee maker instead of a tea kettle to boil water for my coffee in the morning.
Laminate seems to be the preferred flooring these days. I put it in my house, and we're pleased with it, so it makes sense to look into it for the coach, too. It sounds like carpet in the driver's compartment is the only way to go, as well as around the dinette seat bottoms. The floor underneath the table NEEDS to be not-carpet so we can clean up after two babies.
Thanks everyone. Send any more experiences or ideas along! I'm enjoying everyone's photos very much, too. Thank you.
Dave >Wannabe< Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183490 is a reply to message #183281] |
Fri, 07 September 2012 07:01 |
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we went with this from Homedepot
http://www.homedepot.com/Flooring-Vinyl-Flooring-Resilient-Flooring-Resilient-Vinyl-Planks/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbzjz/R-100594661/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId =10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051
It has no warranty if you use it in the coach. I have read of many owners of the really big SOB's using the stuff without issue. even in AZ. living over here on the far east (Canada, just above Maine) I don't have to worry about really high temps. the hottest it got inside the coach this summer was right around the 100f mark. I did find that the first couple of times we drove after installing the tiles that they "lifted" under one of the barrel chairs, which is right over the mufflers. we just stomped them back down and keep and eye on the area. we installed them in the spring and this will be the first winter with them not sure how the will handle the freezing temps.
If you go to the "ultra" then you have waterproof. the regular is only resistant. we bought 5 boxes with the plan to also do under the couch (which I haven't done yet) we left the carpet on the "doghouse" as for the bottoms of the dinette we think we can glue the planks to that using the PL premium adhesive.
Adam Raeburn
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183585 is a reply to message #183281] |
Fri, 07 September 2012 20:46 |
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My thought on flooring for the GMC:
I like the look of Bamboo but do not think it would go that well with the other stuff in most GMC's. maybe during a complete remodel.
I like the feel of cork flooring and it has most of the advantages of both carpet and any smooth surface flooring. I am not sure on the longevity.
Vinyl flooring is easy to clean and can look nice... but seems so 50's. (That might not be a bad thing.)
But the most important thing about flooring for the GMC:
What ever flooring you choose, due to the small area you'll actually be covering do NOT choose the flooring by price. The amount of labor to properly put it in eliminates any savings in price per square foot.
IE: Buy the good stuff and do the job right the first time.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183620 is a reply to message #183474] |
Sat, 08 September 2012 09:23 |
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| 59ona64 wrote on Thu, 06 September 2012 22:11 |
Wow, thank you for all of the input. It never occurred to me that the tiles would shrink. Carl, have you noticed any shrinking on your backsplash?
I like the laminate idea, but the tile thing just seemed so simple. Real tile put on with Liquid Nails, "grouted" with silicon. Amazing.
There's still time to ruminate and obsess. That's what I do...I can't imagine what will happen when we actually get a coach! Maybe Saturday...
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Sorry it took me so long to respond. I'm out of town for a wedding etc and we are pretty busy. The answer is that I have NOT noticed any shrinkage issued on the backsplash. One of the tiles migrated away from the one next to it, but that issue was taken care of when I re-glued them using the contact cement. But no shrinkage has occurred.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183621 is a reply to message #183473] |
Sat, 08 September 2012 09:40 |
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Here are pics of a cork floor from the photo site:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/twinkie/p37413-cork-flooring.html
It looks really good.
Mu PO installed a parquet wood floor (teak) which is nice, but needs some work. If I were inclined to do it over, I would consider some kind of laminate, engineered hardwood, cork, or bamboo.
At the Shawnee GMCMI, we got to see Bill Bramlett's high gloss finish hardwood floor that he had recently installed from front to back, including the cockpit. It was gorgeous, but then Bill is an extraordinary mechanic and craftsman.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183622 is a reply to message #183480] |
Sat, 08 September 2012 09:42 |
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| 59ona64 wrote on Fri, 07 September 2012 01:47 |
Carl--nice work on your kitchen! I showed my wife, and she perked up. While not the biggest fan of getting a coach, she is so kind to humor me and give it a shot. The counter space gained by going with a 2-burner stove seems like a huge win to me, especially since I'll be able to use a coffee maker instead of a tea kettle to boil water for my coffee in the morning.
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Thanks for the compliment on the kitchen. The additional counter space does come in handy, and the recent fold down extension will make it even more useful.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183626 is a reply to message #183621] |
Sat, 08 September 2012 10:44 |
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Thank you for the link! It does look good!
We'll still carpet the cab and potentially the steps, but cork tiles for the main coach seems to be the way we want to go. Should be a fairly simple install. For more money you can get some pretty amazing colors too (not sure we'll want to spend it though with so many other things still needed).
Meghan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183628 is a reply to message #183621] |
Sat, 08 September 2012 10:44 |
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Carl,
I ran into Bill at a Mountaineers Rally in Colorado that Emery, Michelle, Helen, and myself attended. He grabbed me and said you've
got to look at my new floor. It was gorgeous!
He noted that it was Aussie timber. Unfortunately my CRS had flared up and I can't remember what it was.
Bill is one of the most meticulous people I have ever met!
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: Carl Stouffer
Here are pics of a cork floor from the photo site:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/twinkie/p37413-cork-flooring.html
It looks really good.
Mu PO installed a parquet wood floor (teak) which is nice, but needs some work. If I were inclined to do it over, I would consider
some kind of laminate, engineered hardwood, cork, or bamboo.
At the Shawnee GMCMI, we got to see Bill Bramlett's high gloss finish hardwood floor that he had recently installed from front to
back, including the cockpit. It was gorgeous, but then Bill is an extraordinary mechanic and craftsman.
--
Carl
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| Re: Vinyl stick-on tiles for the floor [message #183629 is a reply to message #183281] |
Sat, 08 September 2012 10:53 |
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The PO on my Sequoia installed ceramic 12x12 set on a diagonal. My first thought was that they would crack and the grout would never stay.
However it looked great and when I asked him about it he said he'd put it down with Liquid Nails instead of thinset and instead of normal grout, he used sanded silicone grout like they use on Granite countertops. Both have some give to them and there are no signs of cracking or lifting after a year.
I was concerned about the weight but got to thinking about how few square feet we're actually talking about and realized it probably isn't 50 lbs.
That said, I'll probably put laminate if I ever redo one.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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