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Scooby Doo
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I have a couple questions about my "info panel?"
The lights for E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4,F have stopped working.
I took the panel down and the lights are OK.
I checked them by switching my pump light around. (It works when the water pump is on).
The lights are shared from my holding tank, black water tank and gray water tank (3 separate tanks). So I doubt that it is the tank senders. It would not make sense that all three went out at the same time.
I looked through my manuals and am looking for a fuse panel. Not the one behind the glove box (checked that) but the other one.
The manual sez it is next to the breaker box, but mine is not there.
I have a 1976 Royale transmode by Coachman.
I assume it is a little different than most other GMCs.
1)Does anyone know where my other 12v fuse panel might be at ?
2)I assume the gauge at the top of the panel that sez fuel is the LP tank gauge. So, what is purpose of the switch that sez LP gas ?
Thank you in advance,
G2
Glenn & Elaine Gardner...
Miami, Florida...
1976 Royale (transmode)
TZE366V100733
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183126 is a reply to message #183119] |
Tue, 04 September 2012 20:36  |
Ken Henderson
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Glenn,
1) When I got my Birchaven, the 12 VDC fuses for the house were inside the
"buzz box". That's what the '77 Coachmen Rear Bath wiring diagram I have
seems to indicate also. If you no longer have the buzz box, ain't no
tellin' where the installer of the replacement positioned the new fuse
panel.
2) The "Fuel" gauge only registers when the "LPG" switch is depressed.
Ken H.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Glenn Gardner <G2photos@aol.com> wrote:
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> I have a couple questions about my "info panel?"
> The lights for E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4,F have stopped working.
> I took the panel down and the lights are OK.
> I checked them by switching my pump light around. (It works when the water
> pump is on).
>
> The lights are shared from my holding tank, black water tank and gray
> water tank (3 separate tanks). So I doubt that it is the tank senders. It
> would not make sense that all three went out at the same time.
> I looked through my manuals and am looking for a fuse panel. Not the one
> behind the glove box (checked that) but the other one.
> The manual sez it is next to the breaker box, but mine is not there.
> I have a 1976 Royale transmode by Coachman.
> I assume it is a little different than most other GMCs.
>
> 1)Does anyone know where my other 12v fuse panel might be at ?
>
> 2)I assume the gauge at the top of the panel that sez fuel is the LP tank
> gauge. So, what is purpose of the switch that sez LP gas ?
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183142 is a reply to message #183132] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 00:42 |
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The "fuel" gauge in my 77 royale defaults to full until the rocker switch is pushed. Then it says empty but the gauge on the tank is accurate.
Sully
77 royale
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On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Glenn Gardner <G2photos@aol.com> wrote:
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> Ken,
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> I spent most of the day reading all the paper work (manuals) I have, and also looking in every nook & cranny and getting sidetracked with other issues.
> I would NEVER have guessed to look in the "buzz box"
> I will do that as soon as I get home from work tomorrow.
>
> As for the LP fuel gauge, I do not think I have looked at the gauge while pushing the button at the same time.
> The gauge reads full at all times ?
> Is this normal ?
> I would assume it would read at empty, while at rest, and then register while pressing the switch.
>
> I will give you a shout tomorrow night after I dig into it.
> Thank you very much Ken (again) for your help.
>
> Don't know what I would do without GMC.net
> I am so glad to own a GMC and all that comes with it !
>
> G2 :)
> Glenn Gardner...G2photosmx.com
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> Glenn & Elaine Gardner...
> Miami, Florida...
> 1976 Royale (transmode)
> TZE366V100733
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| Re: holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183217 is a reply to message #183119] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 16:26 |
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Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then went to 3/4.
As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the buzz box (5 of them).
Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt test light).
I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my holding tank level switches.
I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I might have blown a fuse.
Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the three tanks.
The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the tank level gauge.
I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
Thank you,
G2... 
Glenn & Elaine Gardner...
Miami, Florida...
1976 Royale (transmode)
TZE366V100733
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183218 is a reply to message #183217] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 17:32 |
Ken Henderson
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Glenn,
Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
diagram may help:
http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
or
http://goo.gl/Q33XF
Good luck,
Ken H.
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
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> Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
> My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
> went to 3/4.
>
> As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
> buzz box (5 of them).
> Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
> test light).
> I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
> holding tank level switches.
> I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
> level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
>
> Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
> share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
> a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
> might have blown a fuse.
> Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
> three tanks.
> The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
> tank level gauge.
> I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183221 is a reply to message #183218] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 18:05 |
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do you have one of these drawing info deals for a 1977 palm beach.,?
this stuff is great~!
mickey
77 palm beach
Anaheim ca.
On Sep 5, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Glenn,
>
> Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
> may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
> find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
> and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
> wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> diagram may help:
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
>
> or
> http://goo.gl/Q33XF
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
>> My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
>> went to 3/4.
>>
>> As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
>> buzz box (5 of them).
>> Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
>> test light).
>> I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
>> holding tank level switches.
>> I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
>> level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
>>
>> Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
>> share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
>> a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
>> might have blown a fuse.
>> Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
>> three tanks.
>> The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
>> tank level gauge.
>> I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183222 is a reply to message #183218] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 18:07 |
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Glen, I had a problem with my inside switch for the Onan not operating the unit. Turns out the connection to the rocker switch was flakey. The switch panel ken is talking about comes out easy and there was enough slack on the bundle to pull it a ways out and hang it to wiggle the wire connections at the contact tabs on the back. Be careful though, the clump of wires back there is a serious octopus!
Sully
77 royale
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 5, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Glenn,
>
> Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
> may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
> find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
> and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
> wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> diagram may help:
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
>
> or
> http://goo.gl/Q33XF
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
>> My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
>> went to 3/4.
>>
>> As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
>> buzz box (5 of them).
>> Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
>> test light).
>> I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
>> holding tank level switches.
>> I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
>> level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
>>
>> Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
>> share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
>> a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
>> might have blown a fuse.
>> Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
>> three tanks.
>> The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
>> tank level gauge.
>> I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
>>
>>
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Wed, 05 September 2012 18:14 |
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Ken,
Thank you for the information, advise, and the diagrams.
A big help !
I will put this tank gauge project on the back burner for now.
I have a trip planned in two and a half weeks.
I will be putting on new tires, check the brake shoes, grease & inspect the rear wheel bearings and flush the brake fluid with new.
I will be writing in with a few questions on this project that I will start in a few days.
I will keep you posted on my panel lights once I get to that.
THANK YOU, very much.
Sincerely,
Glenn Gardner... 
Glenn & Elaine Gardner...
Miami, Florida...
1976 Royale (transmode)
TZE366V100733
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183224 is a reply to message #183221] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 18:17 |
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http://www.bdub.net/manuals/index.html
In the past there were links that were unable to open unless you right clicked and opened with paint. ?? I think it is fixed now th as i tried a few and they opened. Ken H has a contact for large size paper wiring diagrams that are awsome...
| mickeysss wrote on Wed, 05 September 2012 19:05 |
do you have one of these drawing info deals for a 1977 palm beach.,?
this stuff is great~!
mickey
77 palm beach
Anaheim ca.
On Sep 5, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Glenn,
>
> Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
> may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
> find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
> and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
> wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> diagram may help:
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
>
> or
> http://goo.gl/Q33XF
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
>> My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
>> went to 3/4.
>>
>> As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
>> buzz box (5 of them).
>> Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
>> test light).
>> I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
>> holding tank level switches.
>> I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
>> level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
>>
>> Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
>> share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
>> a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
>> might have blown a fuse.
>> Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
>> three tanks.
>> The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
>> tank level gauge.
>> I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183227 is a reply to message #183218] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 18:27 |
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I think "wire nuts" are a big no-no for marine use
and should also never be used in RV construction.
RV construction methods have long been shoddy,
to say the least!
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> From: hend4800@bellsouth.net
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:32:22 -0400
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working
>
> Glenn,
>
> Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
> may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
> find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
> and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
> wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> diagram may help:
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
>
> or
> http://goo.gl/Q33XF
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
> > My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
> > went to 3/4.
> >
> > As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
> > buzz box (5 of them).
> > Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
> > test light).
> > I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
> > holding tank level switches.
> > I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
> > level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
> >
> > Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
> > share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
> > a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
> > might have blown a fuse.
> > Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
> > three tanks.
> > The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
> > tank level gauge.
> > I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183229 is a reply to message #183227] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 18:40 |
Ken Henderson
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You probably think I'm kidding about Coachmen & wire nuts. Darned near all
the 12 VDC wiring in my Birchaven was either white, green, or blue 12g and
every connection was with wire nuts. Why do you think I completely gutted
the thing? :-)
Ken H.
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
> I think "wire nuts" are a big no-no for marine use
> and should also never be used in RV construction.
>
> RV construction methods have long been shoddy,
> to say the least!
> ...
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| Re: holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183233 is a reply to message #183119] |
Wed, 05 September 2012 19:08 |
sgltrac
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ALL of the wire connections in the coach half of my 77 Royale are wire nuts. There are probably over 100 just in the info panel harness alone. ALL of the 12v lighting/fan/accessory stuff is nutted as well.
Its sweet! (ya right)
Sully
77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183290 is a reply to message #183222] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 06:39 |
jhbridges
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I have one of the ohmmeters which has a 'Queeper' setting - it goes 'queep' when the leads are shorted - for which I made up a set of 25' leads, one of which has a clip on the end. This lets me check any wire in my coaches for continuity. It saves a lot of time, and since it never sees anything above 240V (if I'm looking at volatges) I didn't need to make the leadsa up from expensive wire. I can leave it under the front hatch and check back to the LP bay and still hear it queep. Great time saver.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Todd Sullivan <sgltrac@gmail.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working
Glen, I had a problem with my inside switch for the Onan not operating the unit. Turns out the connection to the rocker switch was flakey. The switch panel ken is talking about comes out easy and there was enough slack on the bundle to pull it a ways out and hang it to wiggle the wire connections at the contact tabs on the back. Be careful though, the clump of wires back there is a serious octopus!
Sully
77 royale
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 5, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Glenn,
>
> Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
> may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
> find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
> and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
> wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> diagram may help:
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
>
> or
> http://goo.gl/Q33XF
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
>> My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
>> went to 3/4.
>>
>> As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
>> buzz box (5 of them).
>> Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
>> test light).
>> I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
>> holding tank level switches.
>> I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
>> level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
>>
>> Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
>> share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
>> a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
>> might have blown a fuse.
>> Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
>> three tanks.
>> The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
>> tank level gauge.
>> I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183292 is a reply to message #183227] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 06:41 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412
Registered: May 2011
Location: Braselton ga
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I like wire nuts. They keep tension on the connection via the spring, and consequently don't tend to loosen and remove themselves. They will corrode though.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working
I think "wire nuts" are a big no-no for marine use
and should also never be used in RV construction.
RV construction methods have long been shoddy,
to say the least!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
______________
*[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
*--OO--[]---O-*
> From: hend4800@bellsouth.net
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:32:22 -0400
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working
>
> Glenn,
>
> Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of those
> may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky and
> find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling it,
> and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where the
> wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> diagram may help:
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
>
> or
> http://goo.gl/Q33XF
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
> > My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch then
> > went to 3/4.
> >
> > As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
> > buzz box (5 of them).
> > Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my 12volt
> > test light).
> > I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
> > holding tank level switches.
> > I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then each
> > level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
> >
> > Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of them
> > share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago during
> > a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
> > might have blown a fuse.
> > Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of the
> > three tanks.
> > The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except the
> > tank level gauge.
> > I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
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| Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working [message #183305 is a reply to message #183292] |
Thu, 06 September 2012 08:37 |
Mr ERFisher
Messages: 7117
Registered: August 2005
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sept these
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-distribution-using-circuit-breakers/p35550-terminal-covers-for-breakers.html
or
http://goo.gl/3wK1N
these are little silicon grease holders
gene
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> I like wire nuts. They keep tension on the connection via the spring, and
> consequently don't tend to loosen and remove themselves. They will corrode
> though.
>
> --johnny
>
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
>
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
> To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working
>
>
> I think "wire nuts" are a big no-no for marine use
> and should also never be used in RV construction.
>
> RV construction methods have long been shoddy,
> to say the least!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
> > From: hend4800@bellsouth.net
> > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:32:22 -0400
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] holding tanks panel lights not working
> >
> > Glenn,
> >
> > Practically all Coachmen wiring uses "wire nuts" for splices. One of
> those
> > may well have come loose or the wires may have become corroded. You'll
> > probably have to trace all the related wires, disconnecting and
> > reconnecting those splices as you come to them. MAYBE you'll get lucky
> and
> > find a loose one near where you start. Personally, I'd start at the
> > monitor panel, removing the four mounting screws and carefully pulling
> it,
> > and the rat's nest of wires it hides, out far enough to check connections
> > there. If nothing turns up there, you'll just have to figure out where
> the
> > wires are headed and head them off at the next opening. This wiring
> > diagram may help:
> >
> http://bdub.net/manuals/Coachmen_1977_26RB_Electrical_-_Plumbing_Drawings.pdf
> >
> > or
> > http://goo.gl/Q33XF
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Got home from work and went right to the GMC.
> > > My LP fuel switch is working fine, reads full until I depress switch
> then
> > > went to 3/4.
> > >
> > > As for the fuses, they were right where Ken said they would be, in the
> > > buzz box (5 of them).
> > > Only problem is, the fuses were fine ( I also checked them with my
> 12volt
> > > test light).
> > > I was hoping I had a blown fuse that may have had power going to my
> > > holding tank level switches.
> > > I am assuming that power is sent to one side of the lights and then
> each
> > > level has continuity to light up the next light E, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, F
> > >
> > > Like I said before in my previous post, I have three tanks and all of
> them
> > > share the same gauge. They all worked fine until a couple weeks ago
> during
> > > a trip. I may have pushed more than one button at a time and thought I
> > > might have blown a fuse.
> > > Now I have nothing at all as far as the lights lighting up on any of
> the
> > > three tanks.
> > > The other lights on the panel work fine. Every thing is working except
> the
> > > tank level gauge.
> > > I am stumped and would like some suggestions on what to do next.
>
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