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Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182890] Sun, 02 September 2012 10:14 Go to next message
Coelli   United States
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I just made a fitted windshield screen from Reflectix. Our coach (right now) is parked on the street outside our house and gets the afternoon and evening sun right through the front windshield. You can put your hand up against the Reflectix screen on the inside and feel it frying. The driver's side glass is already cracked and I have paranoid fears that the Reflectix will reflect so much heat back up that it will crack it further or crack the other side. Unfortunately moving the coach isn't an option yet.

I'm curious about the external windshield covers that attach to the coach and keep the rays off the glass in the first place. I don't think we'll ever have $300 to drop on a pre-made one when there's already so much other stuff to spend money on. Looking at them though I wonder if I could make one (I can sew), so I have questions!

- Are they made out of shade cloth?
- Do the snaps require driling? Are they readily available? (Also considering rare earth magnets if there's anywhere to attach them).

They sure would be easier to store when not in use... Though when we move the coach to a permanent rented storage space we probably wouldn't want to leave it there. This is L.A., people will steal anything. Sad


Meghan
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Re: Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182896 is a reply to message #182890] Sun, 02 September 2012 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chasingsummer is currently offline  chasingsummer   United States
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i have the inside curtain, it does a fair job, i have thought of redoing and making them longer. i assume the extra material could just drape over dash, presently i also use towels on the dash.
i have seen the outside ones, if i understand correctly you do have to install snaps to outside of coach.
i do not wish to add snaps since that will give me more places for watyer to enter, if roof is aluminum, then i dont think magnets would stick if they were sewn into top seam or one.
but i am with you that there has to be a better way
brian


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Re: [GMCnet] Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182901 is a reply to message #182896] Sun, 02 September 2012 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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I believe one of the kens described an exterior ws covet that used magnets epoxied to the inside of the body around the cockpit glass.

Sully
77 royale

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On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:49 AM, brian <chasingsummer@triad.rr.com> wrote:

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> i have the inside curtain, it does a fair job, i have thought of redoing and making them longer. i assume the extra material could just drape over dash, presently i also use towels on the dash.
> i have seen the outside ones, if i understand correctly you do have to install snaps to outside of coach.
> i do not wish to add snaps since that will give me more places for watyer to enter, if roof is aluminum, then i dont think magnets would stick if they were sewn into top seam or one.
> but i am with you that there has to be a better way
> brian
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Re: [GMCnet] Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182903 is a reply to message #182890] Sun, 02 September 2012 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Megan,

If you can sew you can make an external cover yourself.

The one I have is made of shade cloth. It was in Double Trouble when I bought it.

It is held to the windshield by clear rubber (?) suction cups. On the opposite side are snaps, however, since the cover fits INSIDE
the rubber seals they can't be snapped to anything.

You can buy the suction cups from McMaster Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-vacuum-cups/=j49hzg

I would suggest you make a pattern out of scrap material that just fits inside the rubber seal. Since both windshields are the same
one will suffice.

When you put it in storage buy a cheap silver tarp from Harbor Freight and put it over the front clip. I think you might be able to
use the clearance lights to keep it in place on top.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Meghan

I just made a fitted windshield screen from Reflectix. Our coach (right now) is parked on the street outside our house and gets the
afternoon and evening sun right through the front windshield. You can put your hand up against the Reflectix screen on the inside
and feel it frying. The driver's side glass is already cracked and I have paranoid fears that the Reflectix will reflect so much
heat back up that it will crack it further or crack the other side. Unfortunately moving the coach isn't an option yet.

I'm curious about the external windshield covers that attach to the coach and keep the rays off the glass in the first place. I
don't think we'll ever have $300 to drop on a pre-made one when there's already so much other stuff to spend money on. Looking at
them though I wonder if I could make one (I can sew), so I have questions!

- Are they made out of shade cloth?
- Do the snaps require driling? Are they readily available? (Also considering rare earth magnets if there's anywhere to attach
them).

They sure would be easier to store when not in use... Though when we move the coach to a permanent rented storage space we probably
wouldn't want to leave it there. This is L.A., people will steal anything. :(
--
Meghan

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Re: [GMCnet] Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182904 is a reply to message #182901] Sun, 02 September 2012 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chasingsummer is currently offline  chasingsummer   United States
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would the round plastic suction cups sewn into the top edge hold it down while sitting???

brian asheboro, nc 75 eleganza, 74 build 119k miles and counting, DOG HOUSE
Re: Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182908 is a reply to message #182890] Sun, 02 September 2012 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Morton is currently offline  Michael Morton   United States
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I had a outside windshield cover made and I had them sew small loops in each corner. For the upper corners I drilled small a hole in the drip rails and made S hooks out of copper wire I robbed from some romex wire I had laying around. On the lower corners I use bungee cords, works well and didn't require drilling any holes in the body, just small holes in the forward end of the drip rail. My shop was pricey on the cover but if you can sew I don't think it would be a big job. Send me your email and I will send picture. Mike memorton@charter.net
Re: [GMCnet] Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182910 is a reply to message #182904] Sun, 02 September 2012 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My coach came with "mesh" shields for windshield,
both left and right side driver/passenger windows,
and for the large rear window. Believe me, they
help out a lot. I had the same type of filters on
a large cabin cruiser; same result.

I have one of the snaps that has come loose and
it will need to be resecured, but no leaks and we
have had some pretty good toad stranglers over
the two years we have had the coach.

I have some Koolaroo to put over other windows,
but wonder how others have used it. Do you leave
it installed during travel down the road? Take
it off before driving and reinstall at each stop?
If you have left it on, did you have any problem
with it tearing off during travel?

We ran into a lady at a restauraunt last week who
said she learned that putting some lengths of 1/2
inch diameter plastic conduit under the mesh to
space it away from the glass worked wonders for
heat reduction. She was speaking of motorhomes
and/or trailers that were in fixed locations in
the southern California heat. She said the idea
was published in some RV magazine a couple of
years ago.

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Re: [GMCnet] Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182917 is a reply to message #182908] Sun, 02 September 2012 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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I had outside window covers made from a fine mesh material. The
material was suppose to knock off 90% of the heat (I don't know how
you can test for this, but it sure knocks down a bunch). Held on by
stainless steel snaps. It was a local company that made them, but they
are out of business now (also had them make covers for my house living
room windows). $500 for the whole batch. You can look out during the
day and no one can see in, but at night everyone can see in and I
can't see out, so we still have blinds on the inside. Here's a
picture.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fulsgld/GMC%20Stuff/GMCScreens01Small.jpg

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73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182918 is a reply to message #182890] Sun, 02 September 2012 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adrien G. is currently offline  Adrien G.   United States
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Maghen,

I used the same idea that Michael said. I used 90% sun screen material, then if I need more blockage I use a sheet of reflective bubble insulation under the sun screen. The top of the cover I used a small flexible stainless cable, passed through the top fold over, with the S hooks. Rope stretches and causes droop.

Start by making a pattern of the area to cover, from side window to side window, by tapping paper on the windshield, and the rest is cut and sew.

I made the covers for all the windows. The side windows have a few snaps. I used "Rivet-Nuts" available in different length with machine threads (McMaster-Carr) on which to install the snaps into. The sheet metal threads screws will pull from the SMC (fiberglass) material in time.

Do it right the first time , and you won't have to do it again.

Holler if need more info.






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Re: Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182919 is a reply to message #182890] Sun, 02 September 2012 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Coelli   United States
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Fantastic info and ideas - thanks to you all! I will try it out with shade cloth and see about some of the alternate methods of fastening it down. Thanks again!

Meghan
1976 Eleganza II, Los Angeles, CA
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Re: Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #182921 is a reply to message #182919] Sun, 02 September 2012 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meghan,

Try: http://www.bdub.net/guske/index.html We got a windshield cover from them and I don't remember it being all that expensive, in fact it was $125.00 plus $15.00 for a storage bag. It is very well made out of heavy sun screen. During the daytime, you can see out, but noone can see in. At night it's just the opposite. It fastens to the coach with 7 screwed in snaps. It was kind of painful to drill those holes at first, but I got over it.

Here's a pic of our coach with the cover on:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmcsj-bisbee-april-2011/p38474-stouffer-s-coach.html

Some people like to put the wipers on top of the cover, I prefer to leave them underneath for protection from the sun.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Windshield covers - inside vs outside [message #183089 is a reply to message #182890] Tue, 04 September 2012 12:09 Go to previous message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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I have to second carl on the guske windshield shades. Priced right for the amount of time it would take to manufacture anything similar. I priced out some stuff to do it myself. but when I added up the small stuff, and the cost of materials. then questioned how well it would turn out. the guske was a deal.

nice durable mesh material. Perfect, exact fit. Pricing this last winter was less then $150 to the door. and I bought the storage bag, I think was $25.

they come with the snaps. and I installed them that way. drill a small hole, and pop rivit. I have not had any leaking, and I only installed the two top snaps. the wipers hold the bottum on. think it took me about 15 minutes to install it the first time.


but it would be easy to epoxy on a snap, or magnet.



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