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[GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182287] Wed, 29 August 2012 16:35 Go to next message
Marsh Wilkes is currently offline  Marsh Wilkes   United States
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I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?

Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
Perry Fl
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182288 is a reply to message #182287] Wed, 29 August 2012 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Marsh,

Many have used hard line from PolyArmour <http://agscompany.com/automotive/brake-fuel-transmission-lines/poly-armour>. It's available from NAPA and others. Easily bent to shape and corrosion resistant.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marsh Wilkes" <gmc455@comcast.net>
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Subject: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses?

I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?

Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
Perry Fl
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182289 is a reply to message #182287] Wed, 29 August 2012 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Marsh - my mistake. I was thinking of the lines from your in-tank fuel pumps, and not the gas-fill lines. I'm sure somebody here will have that info.


Larry Davick
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From: "Marsh Wilkes" <gmc455@comcast.net>
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Subject: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses?

I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?

Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
Perry Fl
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182303 is a reply to message #182287] Wed, 29 August 2012 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marsh Wilkes wrote on Wed, 29 August 2012 17:35

I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?

Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
Perry Fl

Marsh,

There are only two molded hoses in the fuel system (that I know of). Those are part of the fill pipe arrangement. Mine are old hard and nasty.

I have recently had a conversation with JimK. I am getting a set of fuel fill hose parts that are suppose to be alcohol resistant. They aren't cheap, but I am very much hoping to spend less time under the coach now that there is almost no rubber left in the fuel system. (Just a little needed around the selector valve.)

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182316 is a reply to message #182303] Wed, 29 August 2012 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marsh, which coach are you fitting out, Smokey or the driver?

It doesn't sound like I've eliminated as much rubber as you have, Matt.
But at least all the long runs between the bits & pieces are now Polyarmor
and all the short connectors are 30R14, as you suggested (saving me a lot
of money vs 30R9). I had a set of JimK's fill tube connectors to install
also. I'm counting on this set of hoses outlasting me. I haven't yet
added gasoline to test it, but I'm confident.

Sure wish I'd finished a couple of days earlier, before the $0.30 per
gallon hurricane jump.

Ken H.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Matt Colie wrote:

>
>
> Marsh Wilkes wrote on Wed, 29 August 2012 17:35
> > I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to
> fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
> > The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses
> that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?
> >
> > Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
> > Perry Fl
>
> Marsh,
>
> There are only two molded hoses in the fuel system (that I know of).
> Those are part of the fill pipe arrangement. Mine are old hard and nasty.
>
> I have recently had a conversation with JimK. I am getting a set of fuel
> fill hose parts that are suppose to be alcohol resistant. They aren't
> cheap, but I am very much hoping to spend less time under the coach now
> that there is almost no rubber left in the fuel system. (Just a little
> needed around the selector valve.)
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182355 is a reply to message #182303] Thu, 30 August 2012 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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do you have a line on air bags?
---- Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Marsh Wilkes wrote on Wed, 29 August 2012 17:35
> > I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
> > The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?
> >
> > Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
> > Perry Fl
>
> Marsh,
>
> There are only two molded hoses in the fuel system (that I know of). Those are part of the fill pipe arrangement. Mine are old hard and nasty.
>
> I have recently had a conversation with JimK. I am getting a set of fuel fill hose parts that are suppose to be alcohol resistant. They aren't cheap, but I am very much hoping to spend less time under the coach now that there is almost no rubber left in the fuel system. (Just a little needed around the selector valve.)
>
> Matt
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses? [message #182426 is a reply to message #182316] Thu, 30 August 2012 13:53 Go to previous message
Marsh Wilkes is currently offline  Marsh Wilkes   United States
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Hi Ken,

I am working on Miss Smokey, she hasn't been on the road in a couple of
years.
Actually I am having my mechanic do most of the work.
I will probably call you next week.

Marsh Wilkes
Perry Fl









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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alternative to Cinnabar Molded Fuel Tank Hoses?


> Marsh, which coach are you fitting out, Smokey or the driver?
>
> It doesn't sound like I've eliminated as much rubber as you have, Matt.
> But at least all the long runs between the bits & pieces are now Polyarmor
> and all the short connectors are 30R14, as you suggested (saving me a lot
> of money vs 30R9). I had a set of JimK's fill tube connectors to install
> also. I'm counting on this set of hoses outlasting me. I haven't yet
> added gasoline to test it, but I'm confident.
>
> Sure wish I'd finished a couple of days earlier, before the $0.30 per
> gallon hurricane jump.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Marsh Wilkes wrote on Wed, 29 August 2012 17:35
>> > I am setting up in tank electric fuel pumps, barrier hoses, etc. to
>> fight ethanol vapor lock and attack on fuel lines.
>> > The question being is there an alternative to the Cinnabar molded hoses
>> that are not ethanol resistant, as far as I know?
>> >
>> > Marsh (who rarely post anymore) Wilkes
>> > Perry Fl
>>
>> Marsh,
>>
>> There are only two molded hoses in the fuel system (that I know of).
>> Those are part of the fill pipe arrangement. Mine are old hard and
>> nasty.
>>
>> I have recently had a conversation with JimK. I am getting a set of fuel
>> fill hose parts that are suppose to be alcohol resistant. They aren't
>> cheap, but I am very much hoping to spend less time under the coach now
>> that there is almost no rubber left in the fuel system. (Just a little
>> needed around the selector valve.)
>>
>>
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