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Mon, 20 August 2012 18:25  |
Dolph Santorine
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For safety, I'm replacing the furnace in the coach.
My CFNo suggested moving the furnace forward, and under the couch.
The dimensions seem to work with the Atwood Excalibur furnace.
Has anyone done this or seen it done?
Concerns and considerations?
Thanks.
Dolph Santorine
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
dolph@dolphsantorine.com
1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
TZE167V100820
1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
TZE166V101610
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181007 is a reply to message #180975] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 21:32  |
A Hamilto
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 18:25 |
For safety, I'm replacing the furnace in the coach.
My CFNo suggested moving the furnace forward, and under the couch.
The dimensions seem to work with the Atwood Excalibur furnace.
Has anyone done this or seen it done?
Concerns and considerations?
Thanks.
Dolph Santorine
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
TZE167V100820
1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
TZE166V101610
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I have thought about taking the A/C off the roof and putting one under there (I don't have a couch there, yet, but I am planning to replace the dinette that is there...). And I also thought about residential heater/AC units that are built as a single, cohesive unit, and wonder why we can't have something like that in the RV world. A heater/AC under that seat would make perfect sense to me. It might be more likely to be a reality if it was a heat pump, but I don't want to have to run the genset for heat. An integrated propane furnace/AC unit is just too much to ask I guess.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181009 is a reply to message #181007] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 21:49 |
Dolph Santorine
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I toyed with a lot of options on AC, and believe it comes down to getting the compressor out of the living area without creating something as difficult as the dash A/C.
I've resigned myself to the rooftop units. It does not seem that the free market has produced anything better in the past 35 years or so.
I would love to know if someone else as relocated the furnace to under the seat (with a aluminum or steel surround, based on the clearance specs). The wood around the Solaire in my coach seemed to hold up just fine for all those decades.
Of course, I would not mind a heater core in that furnace to run while headed down the road.
Dolph
On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:32 PM, A. wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 18:25
>> For safety, I'm replacing the furnace in the coach.
>> My CFNo suggested moving the furnace forward, and under the couch.
>> The dimensions seem to work with the Atwood Excalibur furnace.
>> Has anyone done this or seen it done?
>> Concerns and considerations?
>> Thanks.
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>> Dolph Santorine
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>> DE N8JPC
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>> 1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
>> TZE167V100820
>> 1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
>> TZE166V101610
> I have thought about taking the A/C off the roof and putting one under there (I don't have a couch there, yet, but I am planning to replace the dinette that is there...). And I also thought about residential heater/AC units that are built as a single, cohesive unit, and wonder why we can't have something like that in the RV world. A heater/AC under that seat would make perfect sense to me. It might be more likely to be a reality if it was a heat pump, but I don't want to have to run the genset for heat. An integrated propane furnace/AC unit is just too much to ask I guess.
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> UA (Upper Alabama)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181016 is a reply to message #181013] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 22:08 |
Dolph Santorine
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Sounds like residential heat. It's all about the ductwork.
Dolph Santorine
Dolph@DolphSantorine.com
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message and few long dead dinosaurs were involved. A large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:57 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 21:49
>> I toyed with a lot of options on AC, and believe it comes down to getting the compressor out of the living area without creating something as difficult as the dash A/C.
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>> I've resigned myself to the rooftop units. It does not seem that the free market has produced anything better in the past 35 years or so.
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>> I would love to know if someone else as relocated the furnace to under the seat (with a aluminum or steel surround, based on the clearance specs). The wood around the Solaire in my coach seemed to hold up just fine for all those decades.
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>> Of course, I would not mind a heater core in that furnace to run while headed down the road.
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>> Dolph
> Someone took the AC off the roof and put one under the sink (passenger side, I think) with the hot exhaust air from the compressor blowing into the wheel well. Can't remember who, but we know it can be done.
> I can't see why you can't relocate the furnace. Ducting to get the heat where you need it is the biggest challenge, isn't it?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181017 is a reply to message #181009] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 22:14 |
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 19:49 |
I would love to know if someone else as relocated the furnace to under the seat (with a aluminum or steel surround, based on the clearance specs).
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Can't say I relocated anything (it was this way when I got it), but here is a link to a few photos (I took them for other reasons, but they give you an idea of where my Suburban furnace and the water heater are located under the couch).
http://www.habcycles.com/furnace.htm
It makes them very accessible, but does cut down on some prime storage space.
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181030 is a reply to message #181017] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 23:39 |
Dolph Santorine
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Mark:
Thanks for sharing.
I agree about the storage space, but it looks like under the seat works just fine.
We are thinking of shortening the counter, adding a seat on a swing out that would necessitate moving the furnace forward about 18 inches (right under the couch).
Thanks again.
Dolph
On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Mark wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 19:49
>> I would love to know if someone else as relocated the furnace to under the seat (with a aluminum or steel surround, based on the clearance specs).
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> Can't say I relocated anything (it was this way when I got it), but here is a link to a few photos (I took them for other reasons, but they give you an idea of where my Suburban furnace and the water heater are located under the couch).
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> http://www.habcycles.com/furnace.htm
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> It makes them very accessible, but does cut down on some prime storage space.
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> Mesa, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181049 is a reply to message #181007] |
Tue, 21 August 2012 06:47 |
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What are you gonna do with the dinette? I might have a home for it, depending.....
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location
Dolph Santorine wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 18:25
> For safety, I'm replacing the furnace in the coach.
> My CFNo suggested moving the furnace forward, and under the couch.
> The dimensions seem to work with the Atwood Excalibur furnace.
> Has anyone done this or seen it done?
> Concerns and considerations?
> Thanks.
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> Dolph Santorine
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> DE N8JPC
> Wheeling, West Virginia
> 1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
> TZE167V100820
> 1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
> TZE166V101610
I have thought about taking the A/C off the roof and putting one under there (I don't have a couch there, yet, but I am planning to replace the dinette that is there...). And I also thought about residential heater/AC units that are built as a single, cohesive unit, and wonder why we can't have something like that in the RV world. A heater/AC under that seat would make perfect sense to me. It might be more likely to be a reality if it was a heat pump, but I don't want to have to run the genset for heat. An integrated propane furnace/AC unit is just too much to ask I guess.
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'73 23' CanyonLands
UA (Upper Alabama)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181069 is a reply to message #181009] |
Tue, 21 August 2012 09:25 |
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Dolph,
About a year ago, I went to look at a coach that was for sale at Copart for Don A. It was a Transmode with a home built interior. Not bad, except for the hole burned through the floor in the muffler area. The furnace was under the couch in that one. I suppose there is no reason why you could not put one there. I think the reason most people stick with the original location is so they don't have to cut new vent holes in the body and then have to deal with the old ones. I don't remember where the water heater was located in that coach, but I think it might have been under the couch as well (propane).
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181074 is a reply to message #181007] |
Tue, 21 August 2012 09:58 |
George Beckman
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| ahamilto wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 19:32 |
I have thought about taking the A/C off the roof and putting one under there (I don't have a couch there, yet, but I am planning to replace the dinette that is there...). And I also thought about residential heater/AC units that are built as a single, cohesive unit, and wonder why we can't have something like that in the RV world. A heater/AC under that seat would make perfect sense to me. It might be more likely to be a reality if it was a heat pump, but I don't want to have to run the genset for heat. An integrated propane furnace/AC unit is just too much to ask I guess.
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Manny put both the air and heat, ducted, into the wall, stacked somehow. Nice job, but then Manny also has a slide out. Helps when you are really clever.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Furnace Location [message #181125 is a reply to message #181069] |
Tue, 21 August 2012 14:12 |
Dolph Santorine
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Thanks Carl
I am scheduled for paint in February, so I'm doing all the stuff that involves holes (and filling them) right now.
All the input is important.
Saves a lot of "puzzling it out"
Dolph Santorine
Dolph@DolphSantorine.com
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message and few long dead dinosaurs were involved. A large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Dolph,
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> About a year ago, I went to look at a coach that was for sale at Copart for Don A. It was a Transmode with a home built interior. Not bad, except for the hole burned through the floor in the muffler area. The furnace was under the couch in that one. I suppose there is no reason why you could not put one there. I think the reason most people stick with the original location is so they don't have to cut new vent holes in the body and then have to deal with the old ones. I don't remember where the water heater was located in that coach, but I think it might have been under the couch as well (propane).
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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