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| Re: [GMCnet] Question On air leveling system [message #179885 is a reply to message #179881] |
Sat, 11 August 2012 19:03   |
tphipps
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I don't know if it applies, but on my first coach, I had to replace the air tank because it was completely rusted out from the inside. You would have to install it before the tank, and after the compressor. I replaced the air tank with a beautiful stainless steel tank, and never worried about again.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Question On air leveling system [message #179887 is a reply to message #179885] |
Sat, 11 August 2012 19:05 |
Ray Erspamer
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I have the EL II system, so no tank!
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I don't know if it applies, but on my first coach, I had to replace the air tank because it was completely rusted out from the inside. You would have to install it before the tank, and after the compressor. I replaced the air tank with a beautiful stainless steel tank, and never worried about again.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Question On air leveling system [message #179893 is a reply to message #179881] |
Sat, 11 August 2012 20:40 |
C Boyd
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Ray: anything will help. Water is your enemy. My 76 with big air tank had a water collector/bleeder till it started leaking and I took it off. It was in line. I also like the idea of the drains like the big truck has. Spring loaded, pull a cable. Put a T coming out the bottom and point the T down with the drain valve.
| Ray Erspamer wrote on Sat, 11 August 2012 19:16 |
What are your opinions on having a desicant air dryer ?
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C. Boyd
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| Re: [GMCnet] Question On air leveling system [message #179897 is a reply to message #179894] |
Sat, 11 August 2012 20:57 |
C Boyd
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Ray: anytime you compress air it mashes the water out of it. I would thik it would help. Draw back is you got 2 compressors and need 2 dryers on the pressure outlets. Good part to your system is it only pumps as much pressure as it needs instead of maintaining 120lb in a tank. The one like I had, had a glass reservoy with a push button on bottom to drain. Made it part of the pretrip to look and drain, it was under the hood. I think I still have it and will try to post pic, I was trying to find a replacement and was told there are better than that available but about $50.
| Ray Erspamer wrote on Sat, 11 August 2012 21:44 |
I have the EL II Charles, so no tank, so do I need them?
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Ray: anything will help. Water is your enemy. My 76 with big air tank had a water collector/bleeder till it started leaking and I took it off. It was in line. I also like the idea of the drains like the big truck has. Spring loaded, pull a cable. Put a T coming out the bottom and point the T down with the drain valve.
Ray Erspamer wrote on Sat, 11 August 2012 19:16
> What are your opinions on having a desicant air dryer ?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Question On air leveling system [message #179898 is a reply to message #179894] |
Sat, 11 August 2012 20:59 |
John Sharpe
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What are your opinions on having a desiccant air dryer ?
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Ray, the system is quite unique in that it drys the desiccant each time the system is lowered. The dry air in the bag expels through the desiccant sending the water laden air to the atmosphere. GM had a lot of engineers and accountants. They would not have been put on every vehicle with a suspension compressor unless it was absolutely necessary.
John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Question On air leveling system [message #180015 is a reply to message #179948] |
Sun, 12 August 2012 21:53 |
John Sharpe
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... inlet filter is located above the hood opening just next to the horn....
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Rob, Ray's coach does not have a tank and the compressors are mounted inside the coach near the left rear wheel well. If there's any water there he has another problem.
John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee [message #180035 is a reply to message #180031] |
Mon, 13 August 2012 00:38 |
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ljdavick
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Now where did that come from?
Did Gary package together a compressor, tank, and wireless air system, or has he tweaked the system to allow for higher pressure?
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Aug 12, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Richard wrote:
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> Maybe Gary could chime in here as to
> how his new system relates to this issue.
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> http://www.bdub.net/bovee/Bovee_Vendors_Ad.pdf
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> Bukzin
> 1977 Palm Beach
> Chico California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee [message #180126 is a reply to message #180035] |
Mon, 13 August 2012 16:31 |
James Hupy
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I am not Gary, but I install his systems. If you are running a single air
bag system, bag extenders will lower the system pressure to achieve ride
height at around 70 to 80 psi. I am on a rolling rally across Canada and
wifi spots are few and far between. You can send me an email, and I will
try to catch up with it.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Now where did that come from?
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> Did Gary package together a compressor, tank, and wireless air system, or
> has he tweaked the system to allow for higher pressure?
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> Larry Davick
> A Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, CA
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> On Aug 12, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Richard wrote:
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> > Maybe Gary could chime in here as to
> > how his new system relates to this issue.
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> > http://www.bdub.net/bovee/Bovee_Vendors_Ad.pdf
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> > Bukzin
> > 1977 Palm Beach
> > Chico California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee [message #180128 is a reply to message #180126] |
Mon, 13 August 2012 16:40 |
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ljdavick
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I have the discontinued dual-bag system and it operates at 80 psi if I can trust my Harbor Freight tire gauge. My '76 came with Electro-Level I and everything works well, but I have a leak in the compressor area that causes it to cycle on about every 5 minutes. The bags don't loose air, but the compressor cycles on regularly.
It would be nice to be able to level the coach from outside, but it's not on the top of my list. Gary has put together a nice looking package.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
A Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee
I am not Gary, but I install his systems. If you are running a single air
bag system, bag extenders will lower the system pressure to achieve ride
height at around 70 to 80 psi. I am on a rolling rally across Canada and
wifi spots are few and far between. You can send me an email, and I will
try to catch up with it.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee [message #180290 is a reply to message #180128] |
Tue, 14 August 2012 20:18 |
James Hupy
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Larry, with the dual bag system, it should come to full extension before
you inflate to 100 psi UNLESS you have a very heavily laden coach. I was
not sure which system you had, so I took a s.w.a.g. Gary is a great
workman, and his systems are top notch.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have the discontinued dual-bag system and it operates at 80 psi if I can
> trust my Harbor Freight tire gauge. My '76 came with Electro-Level I and
> everything works well, but I have a leak in the compressor area that causes
> it to cycle on about every 5 minutes. The bags don't loose air, but the
> compressor cycles on regularly.
>
> It would be nice to be able to level the coach from outside, but it's not
> on the top of my list. Gary has put together a nice looking package.
>
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> A Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Hupy" <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:31:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee
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> I am not Gary, but I install his systems. If you are running a single air
> bag system, bag extenders will lower the system pressure to achieve ride
> height at around 70 to 80 psi. I am on a rolling rally across Canada and
> wifi spots are few and far between. You can send me an email, and I will
> try to catch up with it.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gary Bovee [message #180311 is a reply to message #180290] |
Tue, 14 August 2012 23:47 |
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ljdavick
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James,
This is what I have. I believe that with the true trackers this system is safe.
<http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/822>
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Aug 14, 2012, at 6:18 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> Larry, with the dual bag system, it should come to full extension before
> you inflate to 100 psi UNLESS you have a very heavily laden coach. I was
> not sure which system you had, so I took a s.w.a.g. Gary is a great
> workman, and his systems are top notch.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
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