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[GMCnet] Vacuum hose routing diagram [message #179314] Mon, 06 August 2012 23:07 Go to next message
RicksGMC is currently offline  RicksGMC   United States
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Is there a diagram out there that shows the correct routing and connections for the engine vacuum lines?
I was looking under the hood and noticed a vacuum "chamber" mounted to the drivers side of heater box (?) just to the right of the washer fluid container, but there are no hoses or anything attached to it ?????
Engine appears to be running fine, I don't have a vacuum gauge (yet!) so I have not checked vacuum levels.



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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum hose routing diagram [message #179330 is a reply to message #179314] Tue, 07 August 2012 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here are a few
http://goo.gl/fubEQ

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On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Rick <randts.gmc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a diagram out there that shows the correct routing and
> connections for the engine vacuum lines?
> I was looking under the hood and noticed a vacuum "chamber" mounted to the
> drivers side of heater box (?) just to the right of the washer fluid
> container, but there are no hoses or anything attached to it ?????
> Engine appears to be running fine, I don't have a vacuum gauge (yet!) so I
> have not checked vacuum levels.
>
>
>
> Rick Drummond
> Prior Lake MN
> 1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
> TZE064V100077
> Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
> Email: RandTs.GMC@gmail.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum hose routing diagram [message #179369 is a reply to message #179314] Tue, 07 August 2012 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RicksGMC wrote on Mon, 06 August 2012 23:07

Is there a diagram out there that shows the correct routing and connections for the engine vacuum lines?
I was looking under the hood and noticed a vacuum "chamber" mounted to the drivers side of heater box (?) just to the right of the washer fluid container, but there are no hoses or anything attached to it ?????
Engine appears to be running fine, I don't have a vacuum gauge (yet!) so I have not checked vacuum levels.



Rick Drummond
Prior Lake MN
1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
TZE064V100077
Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
Email: RandTs.GMC@gmail.com
That's the vacuum canister for the heater/AC actuators. If everything is working on the heater/AC, maybe a PO installed another one somewhere else. I suppose one could bypass it by just splicing the input hose to the output hose. Not sure how well the heater/AC acuators would work then?

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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum hose routing diagram [message #180566 is a reply to message #179369] Thu, 16 August 2012 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Investigated the vacuum lines and sure enough the PO had bypassed the vacuum chamber completely. Hooked up my vacuum tester and checked all the lines and none of them would hold vacuum!
Ended up replacing all the vacuum hoses (one at a time) and reconnecting the vacuum chamber, retested the lines and all held perfectly. It's amazing the thing even ran.
My AC and cruise control never have worked for me, I'm curious if this will help those issues too.

Thanks for all the photo's, suggestions, and advise!

Rick Drummond
Prior Lake MN
1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
TZE064V100077
Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
Email: RandTs.GMC@gmail.com

On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:06 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> RicksGMC wrote on Mon, 06 August 2012 23:07
>> Is there a diagram out there that shows the correct routing and connections for the engine vacuum lines?
>> I was looking under the hood and noticed a vacuum "chamber" mounted to the drivers side of heater box (?) just to the right of the washer fluid container, but there are no hoses or anything attached to it ?????
>> Engine appears to be running fine, I don't have a vacuum gauge (yet!) so I have not checked vacuum levels.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Drummond
>> Prior Lake MN
>> 1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
>> TZE064V100077
>> Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
>> Email: RandTs.GMC@gmail.com
> That's the vacuum canister for the heater/AC actuators. If everything is working on the heater/AC, maybe a PO installed another one somewhere else. I suppose one could bypass it by just splicing the input hose to the output hose. Not sure how well the heater/AC acuators would work then?
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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum hose routing diagram [message #180574 is a reply to message #180566] Thu, 16 August 2012 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RicksGMC wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 21:51

Investigated the vacuum lines and sure enough the PO had bypassed the vacuum chamber completely. Hooked up my vacuum tester and checked all the lines and none of them would hold vacuum!
Ended up replacing all the vacuum hoses (one at a time) and reconnecting the vacuum chamber, retested the lines and all held perfectly. It's amazing the thing even ran.
My AC and cruise control never have worked for me, I'm curious if this will help those issues too.

Thanks for all the photo's, suggestions, and advise!

Rick Drummond
Prior Lake MN
1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
TZE064V100077
Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
I think the '74s have a recirculate door that changes the mix from 100% outside air to 20% outside air and 80% recirculated. If connecting that canister enables the recirc door to function (assuming it wasn't working before), you might get a little better AC performance. Also, you might need to add some refrigerant to the system. Some say you shouldn't have high expectations of the dash AC on a '74 no matter what. Don't know if what you did will affect the cruise control.

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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum hose routing diagram [message #180608 is a reply to message #180566] Fri, 17 August 2012 07:56 Go to previous message
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Chances are your cruise and AC may now work fine !! Good find Rick !!

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Investigated the vacuum lines and sure enough the PO had bypassed the vacuum
chamber completely. Hooked up my vacuum tester and checked all the lines and
none of them would hold vacuum!
Ended up replacing all the vacuum hoses (one at a time) and reconnecting the
vacuum chamber, retested the lines and all held perfectly. It's amazing the
thing even ran.
My AC and cruise control never have worked for me, I'm curious if this will help
those issues too.

Thanks for all the photo's, suggestions, and advise!

Rick Drummond
Prior Lake MN
1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
TZE064V100077
Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
Email: RandTs.GMC@gmail.com

On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:06 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> RicksGMC wrote on Mon, 06 August 2012 23:07
>> Is there a diagram out there that shows the correct routing and connections for
>>the engine vacuum lines?
>> I was looking under the hood and noticed a vacuum "chamber" mounted to the
>>drivers side of heater box (?) just to the right of the washer fluid container,
>>but there are no hoses or anything attached to it ?????
>> Engine appears to be running fine, I don't have a vacuum gauge (yet!) so I have
>>not checked vacuum levels.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Drummond
>> Prior Lake MN
>> 1974 (re-)Painted Desert 26'
>> TZE064V100077
>> Photos: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u18085-r-drummond.html
>> Email: RandTs.GMC@gmail.com
> That's the vacuum canister for the heater/AC actuators. If everything is
>working on the heater/AC, maybe a PO installed another one somewhere else. I
>suppose one could bypass it by just splicing the input hose to the output hose.
>Not sure how well the heater/AC acuators would work then?
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