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[GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179097] Sun, 05 August 2012 16:04 Go to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Hi All,
I know you saw Byon Songer's post about the results some have had using
ZEP wet look floor wax on their motorhomes. Background: I was in the USN
stationed on the first ship that ZEP introduced this product on for test
purposes. Lord knows how often (weekly) tile decks on ships have to be
stripped, rinsed, waxed and buffed. We followed their strict proceedures
and the difference was phenomenol. After thorough stripping and
cleaning,three light coats of that stuff was applied. 30 minutes min
between coats. The decks looked like they had a layer of water on them and
no amount of traffic seemed to scuff the stuff. The weekly ritual of
stripping, rinsing etc was reduced to damp mopping, and burnishing with a
brush buffer attachment. The stuff was bullet proof and probably saved the
USN millions in cleaning supplies and time.
Do not use it on the sides of your motorhome! Period! It is made for
horizontal surfaces only. It is incredible for the roof though but you
must clean it thoroughly and apply the coats very thinly. The stuff has a
leveling agent in it. Any runs will either have to be sanded off or
stripped off with very heavy duty stripper so the rule is, apply sparingly
and with a very clean terry cloth towel (big wash cloth). Three
applications and you will never have to do this again. It is excellent for
those surfaces that have the anti-chip coating, or rough painted coating
like the front and rear bumpers on some SOBs. (Yes, those are the only
verticle surfaces it works on.) Use it on the sides and you will regret it.



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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179101 is a reply to message #179097] Sun, 05 August 2012 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about this?

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26062386.cfm

or this?

http://forums.goodsamclub.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26103348.cfm

I confess I didn't read them all in entirety to see if they did anything special, application-wise, but all I saw was notes about getting all the grease, dirt, etc off first.

There's lots of stuff on the web about people successfully using red max pro3 or its equivelent zep wet look on RV's.

So you say do not use it on vertical surfaces, but bunches of guys have apparently figured out how to do it, so what's their trick?


Jay Rabe
76 PB
Portland, OR




> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:04:38 -0700
> From: botiemad11@gmail.com
> Subject: [GMCnet] The easy way out
>
> Hi All,
> I know you saw Byon Songer's post about the results some have had using
> ZEP wet look floor wax on their motorhomes. Background: I was in the USN
> stationed on the first ship that ZEP introduced this product on for test
> purposes. Lord knows how often (weekly) tile decks on ships have to be
> stripped, rinsed, waxed and buffed. We followed their strict proceedures
> and the difference was phenomenol. After thorough stripping and
> cleaning,three light coats of that stuff was applied. 30 minutes min
> between coats. The decks looked like they had a layer of water on them and
> no amount of traffic seemed to scuff the stuff. The weekly ritual of
> stripping, rinsing etc was reduced to damp mopping, and burnishing with a
> brush buffer attachment. The stuff was bullet proof and probably saved the
> USN millions in cleaning supplies and time.
> Do not use it on the sides of your motorhome! Period! It is made for
> horizontal surfaces only. It is incredible for the roof though but you
> must clean it thoroughly and apply the coats very thinly. The stuff has a
> leveling agent in it. Any runs will either have to be sanded off or
> stripped off with very heavy duty stripper so the rule is, apply sparingly
> and with a very clean terry cloth towel (big wash cloth). Three
> applications and you will never have to do this again. It is excellent for
> those surfaces that have the anti-chip coating, or rough painted coating
> like the front and rear bumpers on some SOBs. (Yes, those are the only
> verticle surfaces it works on.) Use it on the sides and you will regret it.
>
>
>
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> Fathom the hypocrisy of a nation where every citizen must prove they have
> health insurance......but not everyone has to prove they're a citizen.
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> Sierra Vista, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179106 is a reply to message #179101] Sun, 05 August 2012 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jayrabe wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 14:26


So you say do not use it on vertical surfaces, but bunches of guys have apparently figured out how to do it, so what's their trick?



Before we decided on a GMC, we were considering a 1972 Dodge Superior with extremely chalky paint, so I looked into Red Max Pro #3 and ZEP High Traffic) extensively. You CAN use it on your RV, you just have to make sure you apply it in very very thin coats so it does not drip or run, and if it does drip or run, catch them while they're still wet. You can use the stripper if you need to correct an area.

Funny thing is if you read the reviews for RMP on the Lowe's site, 6 of 7 of the reviews are from RV owners raving about it. Smile

http://www.lowes.com/pd_216595-531-RMPLM128_0__?productId=3024836#BVRRWidgetID

Again, I haven't done this myself but after everything I read, I wouldn't be afraid to use this stuff provided you do as advised and thoroughly prep and use multiple thin coats.


Meghan
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179110 is a reply to message #179106] Sun, 05 August 2012 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have done this myself. It is fabulous for roofs and is designed to self
level......which means use on horizontal surfaces. It does not like
verticle surfaces.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Meghan <msjenks@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> jayrabe wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 14:26
> > So you say do not use it on vertical surfaces, but bunches of guys have
> apparently figured out how to do it, so what's their trick?
>
>
> Before we decided on a GMC, we were considering a 1972 Dodge Superior with
> extremely chalky paint, so I looked into Red Max Pro #3 and ZEP High
> Traffic) extensively. You CAN use it on your RV, you just have to make sure
> you apply it in very very thin coats so it does not drip or run, and if it
> does drip or run, catch them while they're still wet. You can use the
> stripper if you need to correct an area.
>
> Funny thing is if you read the reviews for RMP on the Lowe's site, 6 of 7
> of the reviews are from RV owners raving about it. :)
>
>
> http://www.lowes.com/pd_216595-531-RMPLM128_0__?productId=3024836#BVRRWidgetID
>
> Again, I haven't done this myself but after everything I read, I wouldn't
> be afraid to use this stuff provided you do as advised and thoroughly prep
> and use multiple thin coats.
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179133 is a reply to message #179110] Sun, 05 August 2012 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 16:47

I have done this myself. It is fabulous for roofs and is designed to self
level......which means use on horizontal surfaces. It does not like
vertical surfaces.




Steve, How well would this stuff work in the curved top of a GMC? Would it have a tendency to run down the sides?


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179172 is a reply to message #179133] Mon, 06 August 2012 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No Carl. My SOB also has those curves and if you're very careful, using
thin coats, you can cover this area. I took my time and had zero runs.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 16:47
> > I have done this myself. It is fabulous for roofs and is designed to
> self
> > level......which means use on horizontal surfaces. It does not like
> > vertical surfaces.
>
>
>
> Steve, How well would this stuff work in the curved top of a GMC? Would
> it have a tendency to run down the sides?
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179180 is a reply to message #179172] Mon, 06 August 2012 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Steve,

My roof definitely needs some help in this area. It appears as if the Mexican painters, that Bruce had paint the coach, did not bag off the roof when they painted the sides, and got overspray all over the top. It's the same white, but somewhat rough. Polish and sealer helps, but it is a pain to work around all the stuff that's up there.


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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179431 is a reply to message #179180] Tue, 07 August 2012 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Netters, here are some pix of how my DOB roof looks after thorough cleaning
and three thin coats of ZEP wet look floor wax. I have to reiterate,
thin. Watch out for runs as they are forever with this stuff. I used a
clean terry cloth washcloth as an applicator. It this stuff lasts as long
on my roof as it did on USN decks............
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6142-zep-wet-look-floor-wax.html

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Steve,
>
> My roof definitely needs some help in this area. It appears as if the
> Mexican painters, that Bruce had paint the coach, did not bag off the roof
> when they painted the sides, and got overspray all over the top. It's the
> same white, but somewhat rough. Polish and sealer helps, but it is a pain
> to work around all the stuff that's up there.
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179433 is a reply to message #179431] Tue, 07 August 2012 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gee Steve. You really had to scrunch down to work in that tight area! Shocked I'm amazed you fit. Nice job.

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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179434 is a reply to message #179431] Tue, 07 August 2012 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Steve. When it gets cool enough to work outside again, I'll give it a try.

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179436 is a reply to message #179434] Tue, 07 August 2012 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Tue, 07 August 2012 15:02

Thanks Steve. When it gets cool enough to work outside again, I'll give it a try.


C'mon, Carl, it's only 106 degrees today (well, in Mesa, anyway). Embarassed (that's not me blushing, that's heat stroke in action).

I'm going to have to use some of that stuff on the roof on my rig, too - it's pretty chalky (guess the PO didn't paint that part, or maybe just never waxed it). But I'll be waiting with Carl for "reasonable temperatures" to return.


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179437 is a reply to message #179431] Tue, 07 August 2012 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would there be a problem later on if you were to repaint the coach?

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> Netters, here are some pix of how my DOB roof looks after thorough cleaning
> and three thin coats of ZEP wet look floor wax. I have to reiterate,
> thin. Watch out for runs as they are forever with this stuff. I used a
> clean terry cloth washcloth as an applicator. It this stuff lasts as long
> on my roof as it did on USN decks............
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6142-zep-wet-look-floor-wax.html
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Steve,
> >
> > My roof definitely needs some help in this area. It appears as if the
> > Mexican painters, that Bruce had paint the coach, did not bag off the
> roof
> > when they painted the sides, and got overspray all over the top. It's
> the
> > same white, but somewhat rough. Polish and sealer helps, but it is a
> pain
> > to work around all the stuff that's up there.
> > --
> > Carl S.
> > '75 ex Palm Beach
> > Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179447 is a reply to message #179437] Tue, 07 August 2012 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 07 August 2012 15:05

Would there be a problem later on if you were to repaint the coach?



I imagine it's like wax in that you have to strip it first.


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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179453 is a reply to message #179436] Tue, 07 August 2012 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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habbyguy wrote on Tue, 07 August 2012 15:07

Carl S. wrote on Tue, 07 August 2012 15:02

Thanks Steve. When it gets cool enough to work outside again, I'll give it a try.


C'mon, Carl, it's only 106 degrees today (well, in Mesa, anyway). Embarassed (that's not me blushing, that's heat stroke in action).

I'm going to have to use some of that stuff on the roof on my rig, too - it's pretty chalky (guess the PO didn't paint that part, or maybe just never waxed it). But I'll be waiting with Carl for "reasonable temperatures" to return.



Only 104 here today, Mark. Still way too much sun to wax a roof! If I get lucky, it will be cloudy on a Saturday someday in Oct or Nov. Either that or I will need to get going on building my new RV garage.

The paint on my roof should shine up pretty well with some of that stuff on it. I have no plans to repaint any time in the near future. Even the cheap Mexican paint job shines up well with a little elbow grease.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179455 is a reply to message #179447] Tue, 07 August 2012 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meghan;
When you repaint you have to fill in the nicks and scratches block sand
apply primer and block sand again.
Somewhere along the way you also need to wipe down the coach with a silicone
remover.
I also like to wipe it down with acetone just before I start to apply the
paint..
After that you then apply the paint.
Who just is finishing repainting our 1974 26' Canyon Lands
All is well with my Lord
Howard
Alpine

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>
>
> Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 07 August 2012 15:05
>> Would there be a problem later on if you were to repaint the coach?
>
>
> I imagine it's like wax in that you have to strip it first.
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179501 is a reply to message #179455] Wed, 08 August 2012 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, you do all of that plus more, block sanding the primer/sealer to get a really smooth surface is impotant at least to me.  Be creful putting chemicals on the prepped surface just be for laying on the base color, the sanding/sealer is designed to seal out any reaction that may occure as the wet paint cures.  Chemicals on the surface may make the base color and/or the clear to react.  Use DX 330 (PPG brand) wax and grease remover then with a "tac rag" wipe off any dust or other particles just before you lay on the paint.
 
If you would like to see a coach with fresh paint just pulled out from curing, check out the 3 process (well 4 if you include the black primer coach over the sanding/sealer) color we just finished on "Kent's coach".  It's all on my daily pose page on my web site http://www.gmccoop.com/
 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:43 PM
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Meghan;
When you repaint you have to fill in the nicks and scratches block sand
apply primer and block sand again.
Somewhere along the way you also need to wipe down the coach with a silicone
remover.
I also like to wipe it down with acetone just before I start to apply the
paint..
After that you then apply the paint.
Who just is finishing repainting our 1974 26' Canyon Lands
All is well with my Lord
Howard
Alpine

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>
>
> Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 07 August 2012 15:05
>> Would there be a problem later on if you were to repaint the coach?
>
>
> I imagine it's like wax in that you have to strip it first.
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179504 is a reply to message #179433] Wed, 08 August 2012 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't fit Hal. Never will either. Moved it out into the sun.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Hal Kading <halkading@fastwave.biz> wrote:

>
>
> Gee Steve. You really had to scrunch down to work in that tight area! 8o
> I'm amazed you fit. Nice job.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179505 is a reply to message #179437] Wed, 08 August 2012 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It will come off with ZEP HD stripper. Messy job but even mineral solvents
won't remove it so you have to use the stuff.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would there be a problem later on if you were to repaint the coach?
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Netters, here are some pix of how my DOB roof looks after thorough
> cleaning
> > and three thin coats of ZEP wet look floor wax. I have to reiterate,
> > thin. Watch out for runs as they are forever with this stuff. I used a
> > clean terry cloth washcloth as an applicator. It this stuff lasts as
> long
> > on my roof as it did on USN decks............
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6142-zep-wet-look-floor-wax.html
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Steve,
> > >
> > > My roof definitely needs some help in this area. It appears as if the
> > > Mexican painters, that Bruce had paint the coach, did not bag off the
> > roof
> > > when they painted the sides, and got overspray all over the top. It's
> > the
> > > same white, but somewhat rough. Polish and sealer helps, but it is a
> > pain
> > > to work around all the stuff that's up there.
> > > --
> > > Carl S.
> > > '75 ex Palm Beach
> > > Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] The easy way out [message #179506 is a reply to message #179434] Wed, 08 August 2012 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I failed to mention that you must wear rubber gloves when you apply the
stuff. Otherwise your fingernails will look like those sissy guys who get
mannycures.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:

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to prep and apply [message #179509 is a reply to message #179101] Wed, 08 August 2012 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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[quote title=jayrabe wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 14:26]
What about this?

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26062386.cfm

or this?

http://forums.goodsamclub.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26103348.cfm

I confess I didn't read them all in entirety to see if they did anything special, application-wise, but all I saw was notes about getting all the grease, dirt, etc off first.

There's lots of stuff on the web about people successfully using red max pro3 or its equivelent zep wet look on RV's.

So you say do not use it on vertical surfaces, but bunches of guys have apparently figured out how to do it, so what's their trick?


Jay Rabe
76 PB
Portland, OR




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I saw this on another RV web site...



Here's a tutorial I put together on the process:


Restoring the finish of an older RV using Red Max Pro:


Materials:
-Red Max Pro (Step 3) Low Maintenance Floor Finish (available at Lowes)
-Bar Keeper’s Friend (powdered)
-TSP (Trisodium Phosphate, powdered)
-3M scrubbies (white)
-Microfiber rags (white or laundered)
-Latex gloves





Preparing the surface is the most important part, since anything left on the surface will be sealed under the Red Max Pro acrylic coating. Start by washing your motorhome as you normally would, making sure to include the roof, rinsing well from the top down.

Now, you want to remove any and all stains, soiling, oxidation, and chalkiness from the surface of the motorhome. Dip a white 3M scrubbie into water and then sprinkle Bar Keeper’s Friend on it. Scrub the surface of the motorhome, rinsing the scrubbie and re-applying the BKF often. Do small areas at a time, rinsing well with water as you go. I used a “flow-thru” brush with a hose to rinse the BKF thoroughly as I went along.

The next step is to make sure that there is absolutely no remaining wax on the motorhome, since wax can cause the Red Max to peel. Mix up a bucket of TSP (1/2 cup) in water (2 gal), and wash the entire motorhome. You can use a carwash brush, a sponge, a pressure washer…anything you would normally use when you wash your RV. Rinse well, and let the motorhome dry completely. You should be left with a clean and smooth (although dull) surface. Congrats, the prep-work is now complete!

Now for the easy part. Pour some Red Max Pro (RMP) into a shallow container (a pie pan works well). Fold a microfiber rag to about hand-sized, dip into the RMP (trust me, use gloves!), and squeeze out the excess. How much/how wet? You want it more than damp, but less than dripping. Now simply wipe the surface of the motorhome with the wet rag. Don’t try to over-apply; just wet the surface (imagine wiping a layer of dust off with a wet rag). It really doesn’t matter whether you wipe horizontally, vertically, or in circles; RMP is very thin/watery and you are just trying to “moisten” the surface. Work your way all the way around the motorhome. RMP will dry quickly; before you’ve gone all the way around, it will be dry and you can immediately start on the next coat.

That first coat will likely look really bad; streaky, shiny in some places, dull in others…don’t panic. Each additional coat will even it out and start to build up a deep layer of shine. By coat 3, you will be grinning ear to ear. And coat 4 will be the icing on the cake. Not only will your RV shine like it hasn’t shined in years, it will be a deeper color as well. Even old, faded, cracked graphics will have a new lease on life! And all for around $30!

Things (I learned) to keep in mind:

-Don’t use colored microfiber rags unless they have been laundered, as the color may bleed.

-Be careful around window frames, locks, latches, etc., as the RMP is very watery and will have a tendency to gather at those spots and cause runs. Watch for runs and give them a quick wipe with the rag before they start to “set up”.

-Some older, deteriorated graphics may “bleed” color onto the rag. Watch for this and change or re-fold your rag so you don’t spread that color onto other parts of the MH. If this occurs, it should only happen with the first coat, as the RMP will then “seal” the graphics up. Subsequent coats will not have the problem.

-After each coat, go around and open/operate all hatches, locks, catches, etc. The acrylic (RMP) coating can sort of “glue” them closed. J

-You can also do the window frames and other painted metal areas; I did my entire Class C cab since it was very faded and dull. Came out fantastic, and my painted window frames look new, as well!

In closing:

For an older MH that has lost it’s shine/luster, this process is an easy, inexpensive way to restore it to a “Wow” finish. It’s much easier than any wax, polish, oxidation remover, or fiberglass restorer that I have ever used, and the results are not only much better, they are longer lasting as well. From what I have read, a single “touch-up” coat should be applied each year. With the ease of application, that single touch up coat should only take about 20 minutes.



Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach

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