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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176802] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 11:25  |
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Ray, some states, like Oregon, leave the scales turned on even when the
weigh station is closed. You can drive over these to get your weight.
If the weigh station is closed, look for a "000000 " reading on the
scales readout, and go for it. If the weigh station is open, and they
aren't busy, park nearby and ask. Or, you could look up the Department
Of Transport for that state and call them.
RonC
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:58:29 +0000 "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net>
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> Question: Are RV's allowed to drive through the interstate truck
> rolling weigh stations just to get their total weight?
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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>Ron & Linda Clark
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North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176809 is a reply to message #176802] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 14:17  |
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O.K. Emery, here you go. Google GMCWS. There is a link to Armand's new
interactive web site. There is a link to the detailed information that we
compiled after a number of coaches were weighed. Should be everything a
person will need to get a fair idea of what a coach weighs.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
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> Ray, some states, like Oregon, leave the scales turned on even when the
> weigh station is closed. You can drive over these to get your weight.
> If the weigh station is closed, look for a "000000 " reading on the
> scales readout, and go for it. If the weigh station is open, and they
> aren't busy, park nearby and ask. Or, you could look up the Department
> Of Transport for that state and call them.
>
> RonC
>
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:58:29 +0000 "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net>
> writes:
> > Question: Are RV's allowed to drive through the interstate truck
> > rolling weigh stations just to get their total weight?
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> >Ron & Linda Clark
> 1978 Eleganza II
> North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176814 is a reply to message #176809] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 14:53 |
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Thank you. Others might want to visit that site. I don't have to because I am very aware of weights and i am not the one that brought up the question When I was Tech VP of GMCWS I believe we had our first weighing at Maricopa.
To most of those weights should be added 300 or 400 pounds for the driver and co-pilot. They usually were not in the coaches when they were weighed.
Emery Stora
On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:17 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> O.K. Emery, here you go. Google GMCWS. There is a link to Armand's new
> interactive web site. There is a link to the detailed information that we
> compiled after a number of coaches were weighed. Should be everything a
> person will need to get a fair idea of what a coach weighs.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ray, some states, like Oregon, leave the scales turned on even when the
>> weigh station is closed. You can drive over these to get your weight.
>> If the weigh station is closed, look for a "000000 " reading on the
>> scales readout, and go for it. If the weigh station is open, and they
>> aren't busy, park nearby and ask. Or, you could look up the Department
>> Of Transport for that state and call them.
>>
>> RonC
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:58:29 +0000 "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net>
>> writes:
>>> Question: Are RV's allowed to drive through the interstate truck
>>> rolling weigh stations just to get their total weight?
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>
>>> Ron & Linda Clark
>> 1978 Eleganza II
>> North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176816 is a reply to message #176814] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 15:11 |
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I asked this once before but didn't get an answer. Are the stretch coach's over the GVW stickers, if so, then are they illegal to go down the road?
Norm
always lurking.
Thank you. Others might want to visit that site. I don't have to because I am very aware of weights and i am not the one that brought up the question When I was Tech VP of GMCWS I believe we had our first weighing at Maricopa.
To most of those weights should be added 300 or 400 pounds for the driver and co-pilot. They usually were not in the coaches when they were weighed.
Emery Stora
On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:17 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> O.K. Emery, here you go. Google GMCWS. There is a link to Armand's new
> interactive web site. There is a link to the detailed information that we
> compiled after a number of coaches were weighed. Should be everything a
> person will need to get a fair idea of what a coach weighs.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ray, some states, like Oregon, leave the scales turned on even when the
>> weigh station is closed. You can drive over these to get your weight.
>> If the weigh station is closed, look for a "000000 " reading on the
>> scales readout, and go for it. If the weigh station is open, and they
>> aren't busy, park nearby and ask. Or, you could look up the Department
>> Of Transport for that state and call them.
>>
>> RonC
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:58:29 +0000 "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net>
>> writes:
>>> Question: Are RV's allowed to drive through the interstate truck
>>> rolling weigh stations just to get their total weight?
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>
>>> Ron & Linda Clark
>> 1978 Eleganza II
>> North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176819 is a reply to message #176816] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 15:35 |
James Hupy
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Norm, I believe that the stretch we weighed at Casa de Fruta exceeded the
GVW for a 26'. If you look at your alcoa wheels, it clearly states the max
inflation pressure as well as the max weight that SHOULD be carried on that
wheel. Some of those coaches exceeded max inflation pressure with load
range "E" tires mounted. Kinda food for thought as well as some spirited
discussions about load and balance as well as ride height and alignment.
Hook a toad behind one, and a whole new set of questions with no answers.
Anyway, it goes without saying that heavily laden coaches burn more fuel
going down the road, wear tires more quickly, probably wear out suspension
components like shocks, control arm bushings, ball joints, wheel bearings
and the like. I am not saying anything that most of us don't know but it is
good to kick these subjects around once in a while.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403 ( it weighs 11,700 with fuel and "live load".)
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Norm Bowker <bowks43@rogers.com> wrote:
> I asked this once before but didn't get an answer. Are the stretch
> coach's over the GVW stickers, if so, then are they illegal to go down the
> road?
> Norm
> always lurking.
>
>
> Thank you. Others might want to visit that site. I don't have to because I
> am very aware of weights and i am not the one that brought up the question
> When I was Tech VP of GMCWS I believe we had our first weighing at Maricopa.
>
> To most of those weights should be added 300 or 400 pounds for the driver
> and co-pilot. They usually were not in the coaches when they were weighed.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:17 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > O.K. Emery, here you go. Google GMCWS. There is a link to Armand's new
> > interactive web site. There is a link to the detailed information that we
> > compiled after a number of coaches were weighed. Should be everything a
> > person will need to get a fair idea of what a coach weighs.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, OR
> > 78 GMC Royale 403
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Ray, some states, like Oregon, leave the scales turned on even when the
> >> weigh station is closed. You can drive over these to get your weight.
> >> If the weigh station is closed, look for a "000000 " reading on the
> >> scales readout, and go for it. If the weigh station is open, and they
> >> aren't busy, park nearby and ask. Or, you could look up the Department
> >> Of Transport for that state and call them.
> >>
> >> RonC
> >>
> >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:58:29 +0000 "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net
> >
> >> writes:
> >>> Question: Are RV's allowed to drive through the interstate truck
> >>> rolling weigh stations just to get their total weight?
> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >>>
> >>> Ron & Linda Clark
> >> 1978 Eleganza II
> >> North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176821 is a reply to message #176819] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 15:52 |
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Thanks Jim. I still don't know what would happen if a stretch was stopped for a MOT weight check.
Norm
Norm, I believe that the stretch we weighed at Casa de Fruta exceeded the
GVW for a 26'. If you look at your alcoa wheels, it clearly states the max
inflation pressure as well as the max weight that SHOULD be carried on that
wheel. Some of those coaches exceeded max inflation pressure with load
range "E" tires mounted. Kinda food for thought as well as some spirited
discussions about load and balance as well as ride height and alignment.
Hook a toad behind one, and a whole new set of questions with no answers.
Anyway, it goes without saying that heavily laden coaches burn more fuel
going down the road, wear tires more quickly, probably wear out suspension
components like shocks, control arm bushings, ball joints, wheel bearings
and the like. I am not saying anything that most of us don't know but it is
good to kick these subjects around once in a while.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403 ( it weighs 11,700 with fuel and "live load".)
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Norm Bowker <bowks43@rogers.com> wrote:
> I asked this once before but didn't get an answer. Are the stretch
> coach's over the GVW stickers, if so, then are they illegal to go down the
> road?
> Norm
> always lurking.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176824 is a reply to message #176816] |
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| storm'n wrote on Sun, 15 July 2012 16:11 |
I asked this once before but didn't get an answer. Are the stretch coach's over the GVW stickers, if so, then are they illegal to go down the road?
Norm
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Norm,
First, don't just lurk, participate.
Next, GVW or GCVW are manufacture's numbers and are largely about warranty.
What the weight police are going to care about is tire load at ~550#/inch of thread width because that is what breaks roads. After that, they don't care very much.
As six 225*16 have a load rating of 2640, but a thread load of about 3800, nobody is going to care about what the modified motorhome did.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176835 is a reply to message #176824] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 18:11 |
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Thanks Matt, I am a ustabe GMC'er. I love reading about all the goings on in the GMC world. Through this media I can be at the rallies & go down the road with everybody.
Norm.
storm'n wrote on Sun, 15 July 2012 16:11
> I asked this once before but didn't get an answer. Are the stretch coach's over the GVW stickers, if so, then are they illegal to go down the road?
> Norm
> always lurking.
Norm,
First, don't just lurk, participate.
Next, GVW or GCVW are manufacture's numbers and are largely about warranty.
What the weight police are going to care about is tire load at ~550#/inch of thread width because that is what breaks roads. After that, they don't care very much.
As six 225*16 have a load rating of 2640, but a thread load of about 3800, nobody is going to care about what the modified motorhome did.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176839 is a reply to message #176836] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 18:54 |
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I guess Canada does have more need for road improvement revenue than the States. I had always thought the gvwr ment the gross unladen weight the vehicle is rated for as it left the factory. The kicker is the KWs gvwr is 18000 lb which is close to bobtail weight. If you add a trailer and set a 50k coil on it the ground weight of the tractor only can be legally 46000 lb. So i`m thinkin the 12500 on the GMC would be argueable if found overweight by a law enforcement official. I would at least ask to be reweighed after i unload it..
Norm, aren`t you runnin them slick hubcaps?
| storm'n wrote on Sun, 15 July 2012 19:16 |
Same as DOT. They have been known to set up spot checks with portable scales outside a campgound & do spot checks.
Norm
MOT? Is that Ministry of Transport as they have in the UK? Is that also in Canada? Is that equivalent to the DOT - Department of Transportation in the USA?
Is it common that they weigh motorhomes where you live?
In the USA I have never heard of a motorhome being stopped for a weighing. They are just concerned about commercial vehicles not recreational vehicles.
Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #176854 is a reply to message #176852] |
Sun, 15 July 2012 20:31 |
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I thought I might have met you at DuQuoin 2010.
| storm'n wrote on Sun, 15 July 2012 21:24 |
Slick hubcaps? No, I used to have a GMC years ago.
Norm, aren`t you runnin them slick hubcaps?
storm'n wrote on Sun, 15 July 2012 19:16
> Same as DOT. They have been known to set up spot checks with portable scales outside a campgound & do spot checks.
> Norm
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> MOT? Is that Ministry of Transport as they have in the UK? Is that also in Canada? Is that equivalent to the DOT - Department of Transportation in the USA?
>
> Is it common that they weigh motorhomes where you live?
>
> In the USA I have never heard of a motorhome being stopped for a weighing. They are just concerned about commercial vehicles not recreational vehicles.
>
> Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] Weight of a 76 26 footer? [message #177251 is a reply to message #176819] |
Wed, 18 July 2012 23:25 |
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I am perplexed all the rules in parking are maximum 25 feet for rvs on streets.
being that ours is 26 feet, i measured it and with out the bumpers it is 25 feet.
we need a decal that states or some paper work to have with the 26 footer
that states body is 25 feet for legal parking. Any ideas except back it into a wall.
mickey sorry i am off thread a little, i cannot post new threads for my sending and
receiving email is not the same. would someone start this thread for me. maybe.
weight is close though. does the reg. state the 26 feet on it.
mickey 77 palm beach, anaheim ca.
On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:35 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> Norm, I believe that the stretch we weighed at Casa de Fruta exceeded the
> GVW for a 26'. If you look at your alcoa wheels, it clearly states the max
> inflation pressure as well as the max weight that SHOULD be carried on that
> wheel. Some of those coaches exceeded max inflation pressure with load
> range "E" tires mounted. Kinda food for thought as well as some spirited
> discussions about load and balance as well as ride height and alignment.
> Hook a toad behind one, and a whole new set of questions with no answers.
> Anyway, it goes without saying that heavily laden coaches burn more fuel
> going down the road, wear tires more quickly, probably wear out suspension
> components like shocks, control arm bushings, ball joints, wheel bearings
> and the like. I am not saying anything that most of us don't know but it is
> good to kick these subjects around once in a while.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403 ( it weighs 11,700 with fuel and "live load".)
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Norm Bowker <bowks43@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> I asked this once before but didn't get an answer. Are the stretch
>> coach's over the GVW stickers, if so, then are they illegal to go down the
>> road?
>> Norm
>> always lurking.
>>
>>
>> Thank you. Others might want to visit that site. I don't have to because I
>> am very aware of weights and i am not the one that brought up the question
>> When I was Tech VP of GMCWS I believe we had our first weighing at Maricopa.
>>
>> To most of those weights should be added 300 or 400 pounds for the driver
>> and co-pilot. They usually were not in the coaches when they were weighed.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:17 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> O.K. Emery, here you go. Google GMCWS. There is a link to Armand's new
>>> interactive web site. There is a link to the detailed information that we
>>> compiled after a number of coaches were weighed. Should be everything a
>>> person will need to get a fair idea of what a coach weighs.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, OR
>>> 78 GMC Royale 403
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray, some states, like Oregon, leave the scales turned on even when the
>>>> weigh station is closed. You can drive over these to get your weight.
>>>> If the weigh station is closed, look for a "000000 " reading on the
>>>> scales readout, and go for it. If the weigh station is open, and they
>>>> aren't busy, park nearby and ask. Or, you could look up the Department
>>>> Of Transport for that state and call them.
>>>>
>>>> RonC
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:58:29 +0000 "Ray Erspamer" <78gmc-royale@att.net
>>>
>>>> writes:
>>>>> Question: Are RV's allowed to drive through the interstate truck
>>>>> rolling weigh stations just to get their total weight?
>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron & Linda Clark
>>>> 1978 Eleganza II
>>>> North Plains, ORYGUN
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