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C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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A GMC friend asked me to check out her 93 Lumina Euro. It has a clicking sound when turning to the right only. Also does it in reverse with wheels turned to right. It is a dry hi pitch clicking. It sounds exactly like a loose lug nut in a hubcap. Drives straight and smooth, no difference in anything when clicking with or without brakes applied. Under peer pressure I have replaced loaded calipers and rotors, new timken wheel bearings, and new cv axles. The clicking is still there.
I`m thinking catilitic converter has come apart on the inside and right turns puts the cradle and exhaust in such a way to cause this clicking??? The clicking does not increase with speed and will do it only when the car is moving even in right curves at hwy speed or in parking lot. Has anybody ever barked up a tree like this before??


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Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175497 is a reply to message #175480] Wed, 04 July 2012 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you checked the sway bar end link mounts? Check for play with weight on the suspension.

Sully
77 royale

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On Jul 4, 2012, at 6:01 AM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:

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> A GMC friend asked me to check out her 93 Lumina Euro. It has a clicking sound when turning to the right only. Also does it in reverse with wheels turned to right. It is a dry hi pitch clicking. It sounds exactly like a loose lug nut in a hubcap. Drives straight and smooth, no difference in anything when clicking with or without brakes applied. Under peer pressure I have replaced loaded calipers and rotors, new timken wheel bearings, and new cv axles. The clicking is still there.
> I`m thinking catilitic converter has come apart on the inside and right turns puts the cradle and exhaust in such a way to cause this clicking??? The clicking does not increase with speed and will do it only when the car is moving even in right curves at hwy speed or in parking lot. Has anybody ever barked up a tree like this before??
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Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175511 is a reply to message #175497] Wed, 04 July 2012 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: the swaybar bushings are intact and no signs of any contact with anyting. When I jack it up, even under the ball joint it does not load the front to ride height. I cannot find a shiny spot nowhere. Thanks for the thought..




[quote title=sgltrac wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 09:54]Have you checked the sway bar end link mounts? Check for play with weight on the suspension.

Sully
77 royale

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Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175514 is a reply to message #175480] Wed, 04 July 2012 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My bet is a bad cv joint on the left side.

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Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175516 is a reply to message #175514] Wed, 04 July 2012 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ernest Dankert wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 12:15

My bet is a bad cv joint on the left side.





Sir: Both axles and wheel bgs replaced with new, no change in noise..
thanks..


C. Boyd
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Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175526 is a reply to message #175516] Wed, 04 July 2012 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Possibly something stuck in the tire tread?
Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175537 is a reply to message #175526] Wed, 04 July 2012 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does it have a wheel cover (hub cap)? I had a clicking noise on a
ford van , replaced both front wheel bearings and still had the noise.
took the wheel covers off and noise went away.

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Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175540 is a reply to message #175537] Wed, 04 July 2012 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Sir: it has alum wheels with a small round plactic center cap, and yes I did try it without the center cap, no change. Thanks






Bruce Hart wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 19:05

Does it have a wheel cover (hub cap)? I had a clicking noise on a
ford van , replaced both front wheel bearings and still had the noise.
took the wheel covers off and noise went away.

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C. Boyd
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Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175544 is a reply to message #175480] Wed, 04 July 2012 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A tire belt seperation could cause the noise. Did you try moving the wheels front to rear to see if the noise moves with it?

Hows that Tracker coming Bud??


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Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175545 is a reply to message #175544] Wed, 04 July 2012 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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No Sir I did not try rotating tires.
The new Tracker engine is in Ken Burtons hanger waiting on Dean & Cherrie to pick it up on their way down. Hopefully in a few weeks. Thanks for the link on the engine..





Larry wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 20:01

A tire belt seperation could cause the noise. Did you try moving the wheels front to rear to see if the noise moves with it?

Hows that Tracker coming Bud??



C. Boyd
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Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175546 is a reply to message #175511] Wed, 04 July 2012 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have had many occasion when the end links are not securely pinned at both ends cause a racket. To rule it out for certain you can disconnect the link from the bar at both sides. Very hard to tell when vehicle weight is not on the suspension as when suspension is hanging there is no play in the links. What was the last thing done to the car before the noise started?

Sully

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On Jul 4, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:

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> Sir: the swaybar bushings are intact and no signs of any contact with anyting. When I jack it up, even under the ball joint it does not load the front to ride height. I cannot find a shiny spot nowhere. Thanks for the thought..
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> [quote title=sgltrac wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 09:54]Have you checked the sway bar end link mounts? Check for play with weight on the suspension.
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Sully 77 Royale basket case. Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list) Seattle, Wa.
Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175558 is a reply to message #175545] Wed, 04 July 2012 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C Boyd wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 19:07

No Sir I did not try rotating tires.
The new Tracker engine is in Ken Burtons hanger waiting on Dean & Cherrie to pick it up on their way down. Hopefully in a few weeks. Thanks for the link on the engine..





Larry wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 20:01

A tire belt separation could cause the noise. Did you try moving the wheels front to rear to see if the noise moves with it?

Hows that Tracker coming Bud??



Glad the link worked out for you. Before you put the head on, look closely at the head gasket. It looks symmetrical...like it would work flopped front to back. It is symmetrical accept for one hole. That hole provides oil to the top end for cam lub. Hole should be forward. If not you will burn up the cam. Don't ask how I know this...Sad


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Re: anybody ever seen this??? [message #175581 is a reply to message #175558] Thu, 05 July 2012 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks..



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Glad the link worked out for you. Before you put the head on, look closely at the head gasket. It looks symmetrical...like it would work flopped front to back. It is symmetrical accept for one hole. That hole provides oil to the top end for cam lub. Hole should be forward. If not you will burn up the cam. Don't ask how I know this...Sad[/quote]


C. Boyd
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Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175582 is a reply to message #175546] Thu, 05 July 2012 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: Sir, have not had anything done since tires last year. Fuel pump in tank year before that. I knew it was about time for sumthin tho.




What was the last thing done to the car before the noise started?

Sully

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On Jul 4, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:

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>
> Sir: the swaybar bushings are intact and no signs of any contact with anyting. When I jack it up, even under the ball joint it does not load the front to ride height. I cannot find a shiny spot nowhere. Thanks for the thought..
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sgltrac wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 09:54

Have you checked the sway bar end link mounts? Check for play with weight on the suspension.
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> Sully
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C. Boyd
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Re: [GMCnet] anybody ever seen this??? [message #175635 is a reply to message #175582] Thu, 05 July 2012 12:41 Go to previous message
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Let me know when you figure it out.

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On Jul 5, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:

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> Sir: Sir, have not had anything done since tires last year. Fuel pump in tank year before that. I knew it was about time for sumthin tho.
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> What was the last thing done to the car before the noise started?
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> Sully
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> On Jul 4, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Charles Boyd <mailto:covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Sir: the swaybar bushings are intact and no signs of any contact with anyting. When I jack it up, even under the ball joint it does not load the front to ride height. I cannot find a shiny spot nowhere. Thanks for the thought..
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>> sgltrac wrote on Wed, 04 July 2012 09:54
>> Have you checked the sway bar end link mounts? Check for play with weight on the suspension.
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