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bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173818] Mon, 18 June 2012 18:54 Go to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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It worked so well there must be something wrong.

I changed the rear cylinders and most of the lines going forward.

I opened a rear bleeder and pumped like a mad man. After a long time a few drops came out.

So, I poured a large bottle of DOT3 in a clean bug sprayer, cut the sprayer off and forced the plastic hose onto the bleeder.

I pumped it up opened the opposite bleeder. Brake fluid gushed forth.

I tightened the bleeder and headed to the front where i found brake fluid pouring over the top of the MC. (top seal is worn)

That was too easy.

The pedal is hard. Battery is charging. I was not expecting to drive it tonight.


The end is in sight thanks for all the help along the way.


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Re: bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173838 is a reply to message #173818] Mon, 18 June 2012 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is the way we do airplane braked BUT...

On an airplane the bleeder is positioned at the bottom of each wheel cylinder/ caliper so all of the air is forced out of the system and back out to the master cylinder.

On a GMC, or car, or truck the bleeders are mounted on the top of the cylinders. So doing your procedure you can not get all of the air out of the cylinders. I suggest that you pump the brakes and open each bleeder one at a time to remove any additional air that might be trapped in the cylinders. It won't be a whole lot of air but it will be nice to know all of it is gone.


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Re: bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173879 is a reply to message #173818] Tue, 19 June 2012 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hertfordnc wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 16:54

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I tightened the bleeder and headed to the front where i found brake fluid pouring over the top of the MC. (top seal is worn)
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You may want to replace the seal on the MC cap. It helps to keep the brake fluid from absorbing water from the air.

Or...

You can change the fluid more often. Twisted Evil



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Re: [GMCnet] bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173883 is a reply to message #173879] Tue, 19 June 2012 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think you have a pretty good solution. I like mine better <http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/brakes/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html>

Works great for me.

Larry Davick

On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:

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> hertfordnc wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 16:54
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>> I tightened the bleeder and headed to the front where i found brake fluid pouring over the top of the MC. (top seal is worn)
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> You may want to replace the seal on the MC cap. It helps to keep the brake fluid from absorbing water from the air.
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> Or...
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> You can change the fluid more often. :twisted:
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Re: [GMCnet] bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173884 is a reply to message #173883] Tue, 19 June 2012 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

Here's what I noted just over a year ago!

G'day, When George Zhookoff and the team installed the Reaction Arm Braking System he won at Bean Station we used a pressure bleeder
I got from Jim Hupy. George wanted to flush the system not just bleed it so we sucked all the fluid out of the M/S with a syringe,
cleaned the gunk that was at the bottom of the bowls with clean shop towels sprayed with brake parts cleaner. Installed Jim's plate
on top of the M/S filled the canister with ATE Dot 4 brake fluid and connected it to the plate and pumped it up to 10 psi. Starting
with passenger side rear caliper we flush all the old fluid out. I would guess that the whole operation took no more than 15 minutes
TOPS! It was the first time I used Jim's rig and it was a breeze. It worked so good that George bought the rig on the spot! I had
Jim make me two more, one for Double Trouble and one for The Blue Streak. BTW the plates he supplies will fit the OEM M/S as well as
the P-30 M/S.

I reckon this is one instance we should buy American and support a GMCer!

http://bdub.net/jhupy/

As JimK says - leave the Chinese to cook!

Regards,
Rob M.
 
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From: Larry Davick

I think you have a pretty good solution. I like mine better
<http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/brakes/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html>

Works great for me.

Larry Davick

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Re: [GMCnet] bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173889 is a reply to message #173884] Tue, 19 June 2012 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:39


I reckon this is one instance we should buy American and support a GMCer!

http://bdub.net/jhupy/

As JimK says - leave the Chinese to cook!

Regards,
Rob M.





Damn you, Rob, now i have guilt.

My $9 bug sprayer was made by slave labor in China, loaded on to a container ship by slave labor in Shanghai, delivered to, and sold by exploited, non-union workers at Wal-Mart.

The truck driver who delivered it was the only one to earn a living wage.


Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: [GMCnet] bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173918 is a reply to message #173889] Tue, 19 June 2012 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave,

You don't own a GMC that's worse! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: dave silva

Damn you, Rob, now i have guilt.

My $9 bug sprayer was made by slave labor in China, loaded on to a container ship by slave labor in Shanghai, delivered to, and
sold by exploited, non-union workers at Wal-Mart.

The truck driver who delivered it was the only one to earn a living wage.

Dave

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Re: [GMCnet] bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173950 is a reply to message #173889] Tue, 19 June 2012 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hertfordnc wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:16

Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:39


I reckon this is one instance we should buy American and support a GMCer!

http://bdub.net/jhupy/

As JimK says - leave the Chinese to cook!



Damn you, Rob, now i have guilt.

My $9 bug sprayer was made by slave labor in China, loaded on to a container ship by slave labor in Shanghai, delivered to, and sold by exploited, non-union workers at Wal-Mart.

The truck driver who delivered it was the only one to earn a living wage.



In all fairness, I am fairly sure it would be very difficult to source a US made spray tank.

IIRC: JimH's pressure bleeder MC PLATE is the only part he makes. (In the USA.) The rest is sourced from the same "slave labor" sources as your bug sprayer.


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Re: [GMCnet] bug sprayer for brakes? [message #173969 is a reply to message #173950] Tue, 19 June 2012 20:05 Go to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Hi guys, I do have a dog in this hunt, so be advised. The brake bleeder
kits that I make are assembled with as much U.S. manufactured products as I
can locate. Chapin Plastics makes the only brake fluid resistant plastic
1/2 gallon sprayer that I could find without kicking the cost up to a
stainless steel or copper purpose built pressure vessel. The plastic tubing
is food grade acid and base resistant material. I do not remember the
country of origin. The bleeder valve waste receptacles are Langer's
cranberry juice containers which I recycle, as is the Aluminum plate
material that I make the top plates from. The gasket material on the plate
is a special durometer brake fluid resistant Buna-n material and the
adhesive that attatches the gasket to the plate is brake fluid resistant as
well. That stuff I had to find out the hard way. I tried to keep the cost
affordable, but if you would prefer, I can have purpose built proprietary
parts fabricated in the good old U.S.A and pass the savings on to you. I
don't get rich doing this. I am just trying to help out my fellow GMCers by
producing a proven to work, well sorted out brake bleeder system that just
works, no frills. End of soap box comments.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> hertfordnc wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:16
> > Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:39
> > > I reckon this is one instance we should buy American and support a
> GMCer!
> > >
> > > http://bdub.net/jhupy/
> > >
> > > As JimK says - leave the Chinese to cook!
> >
> >
> > Damn you, Rob, now i have guilt.
> >
> > My $9 bug sprayer was made by slave labor in China, loaded on to a
> container ship by slave labor in Shanghai, delivered to, and sold by
> exploited, non-union workers at Wal-Mart.
> >
> > The truck driver who delivered it was the only one to earn a living wage.
>
>
> In all fairness, I am fairly sure it would be very difficult to source a
> US made spray tank.
>
> IIRC: JimH's pressure bleeder MC PLATE is the only part he makes. (In
> the USA.) The rest is sourced from the same "slave labor" sources as your
> bug sprayer.
> --
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> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
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