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[GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173132] Tue, 12 June 2012 21:04 Go to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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My steering column has always had a little more looseness in it than I
liked. With the installation of my new Manny Tranny, the sloppy shift
linkage (it doesn't have good detents) has become problematic. So,
today I first tore down the Olds column Kosier gave me for seminars
(to refresh my memory & check parts condition); then I tore down the
column in the GMC.

It seems a shame to reassemble it all with the worn out bearings,
which were sorry to begin with. Problem is, they're not as easy to
find as I'd expected in view of the tens of millions of cars built
with the same column. The chair stores don't carry them and we no
longer have a GM dealer. I've found a Corvette parts specialist who
seems to have them -- at outrageous prices.

So the question for the day is: Has anyone found a good source for
our steering column bearings?

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173138 is a reply to message #173132] Tue, 12 June 2012 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
peter bailey is currently offline  peter bailey   Australia
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Ken,
I have sent you a private email but in case you don't get it here is the upper bearings supplier. The lower bearings were available locally.
mail@corvettecentral.com
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173162 is a reply to message #173132] Wed, 13 June 2012 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Have you tried SKF and/or WW Grainger? 
These are ball bearing assemblies, or rollers, or what?  Send a model with Stick over the 4th and maybe we can find someplace in the city who either stocks them or has ever seen them before.
 
--johnny
-'76 23'transmode noprris
'76 palm beach

From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:04 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Steering Column

My steering column has always had a little more looseness in it than I
liked.  With the installation of my new Manny Tranny, the sloppy shift
linkage (it doesn't have good detents) has become problematic.  So,
today I first tore down the Olds column Kosier gave me for seminars
(to refresh my memory & check parts condition); then I tore down the
column in the GMC.

It seems a shame to reassemble it all with the worn out bearings,
which were sorry to begin with.  Problem is, they're not as easy to
find as I'd expected in view of the tens of millions of cars built
with the same column.  The chair stores don't carry them and we no
longer have a GM dealer.  I've found a Corvette parts specialist who
seems to have them -- at outrageous prices.

So the question for the day is:  Has anyone found a good source for
our steering column bearings?

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173196 is a reply to message #173162] Wed, 13 June 2012 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Johnny,

No, these are not standard bearings; they're really only a plastic
cage holding BB's. In fact the housing forms the outer race and the
inner race is a separate piece -- where the shaft doesn't act as the
inner race.

Peter's reference was a good one, but while I was still fresh at 7:30
this morning, I managed to assemble a complete set of good bearings
from the two columns. If I can just keep all the balls in place as I
reassemble it, I'll be good to go to my son's for Father's Day. And
on to Huntsville to the Space Museum with his two sons on Monday.

Thanks for the offer anyway.

Ken H.


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> Have you tried SKF and/or WW Grainger?
> These are ball bearing assemblies, or rollers, or what?  Send a model with Stick over the 4th and maybe we can find someplace in the city who either stocks them or has ever seen them before.
>...
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173218 is a reply to message #173132] Wed, 13 June 2012 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken, if you can get a number or some accurate measurements on the bearings you can call MOtion Industries in Houston Texas. They specialize in all bearings. phone# 713) 675-1853
Lynn SR>


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Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173223 is a reply to message #173218] Wed, 13 June 2012 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Lynn,

Thanks for the information; I'll save it for possible future
reference. For now, I've got the situation under control. I was able
to reuse one bearing from each of the columns and now have the GMC
almost reassembled -- all the hard stuff's done.

Here's a photo of the top upper and lower bearings in the column:

http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~dyndetail~Z5Z5Z50000050g~Z5Z5Z515680~P9.95~~~~S3IW16OKE710812941889x~Z5Z5Z5~Z5Z5Z50000050G
or
http://goo.gl/YeMb7

Here's another, three+ times as expensive, source for the same thing:

http://www.steeringcolumnservices.com/gm-buick-cadillac-chevrolet-oldsmobile-pontiac/brg00-tilt-housing-bearing.php
or
http://goo.gl/EHPk4

Those photos appear to show a bearing with a metal outer race; those
in the columns I've disassembled do not have the outer race -- just a
plastic cage to keep the balls together. That cage is usually broken
so that when you disassemble the column you wind up with the 14 balls
from one of them all over the room.

Ken H.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:31 PM, LYNN LAYCOCK wrote:
>
>
> Ken, if you can get a number or some accurate measurements on the bearings you can call MOtion Industries in Houston Texas. They specialize in all bearings. phone# 713) 675-1853
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173230 is a reply to message #173223] Wed, 13 June 2012 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 13 June 2012 16:17

...
Here's a photo of the top upper and lower bearings in the column:

http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~dyndetail~Z5Z5Z50000050g~Z5Z5Z515680~P9.95~~~~S3IW16OKE710812941889x~Z5Z5Z5~Z5Z5Z50000050G
or
http://goo.gl/YeMb7
...




Looks like something from a bicycle.



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Re: [GMCnet] Steering Column [message #173235 is a reply to message #173230] Wed, 13 June 2012 19:25 Go to previous message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Just about the same size balls.

Ken H.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Here's a photo of the top upper and lower bearings in the column:
> >
> >
> http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~dyndetail~Z5Z5Z50000050g~Z5Z5Z515680~P9.95~~~~S3IW16OKE710812941889x~Z5Z5Z5~Z5Z5Z50000050G
> > or
> > http://goo.gl/YeMb7
> > ...
>
>
> Looks like something from a bicycle.
>
>
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