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tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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I've done everything I can think of for this vibration I get as I approach 65 mph. I know the motorhome wants to get up to 70 and better...I keep getting this vibration in my sit, which I think is meaning the back tires. I've got all new ammerican eagle rims and new tires all around, along with new shocks back there...and the vibration still exists. Any ideas guys? This vibration was there in the same way before all the new stuff...so I'm a bit baffled on this.

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170466 is a reply to message #170458] Mon, 21 May 2012 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,

I was about to conclude that you had a classic out-of-round tire condition.
Then I read " This vibration was there in the same way before all the new
stuff."

Sooo...now I'm joining your WAG speculation: How was the rear tire wear,
especially on the center wheels? I ask because I'm wondering if a
misaligned center wheel, perhaps aggravated by loose suspension arm pins,
may be "running out" and "popping back" at a frequency that's resonant
around 65 mph???

As I said, a WAG. Maybe you have a similar one for my thrust bearing
problems?

Ken H.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:03 PM, tom geiger wrote:

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>
> I've done everything I can think of for this vibration I get as I approach
> 65 mph. I know the motorhome wants to get up to 70 and better...I keep
> getting this vibration in my sit, which I think is meaning the back tires.
> I've got all new ammerican eagle rims and new tires all around, along
> with new shocks back there...and the vibration still exists. Any ideas
> guys? This vibration was there in the same way before all the new
> stuff...so I'm a bit baffled on this.
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Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170470 is a reply to message #170466] Mon, 21 May 2012 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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yeah Ken, I was wondering if there was something in the rear suspension that I needed someone to look at.

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170473 is a reply to message #170470] Mon, 21 May 2012 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who better to look at it than you, yourself? Follow Jerry Work's
prescription. Or, even simpler for just the rear, a pair of stand-offs &
string like this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/wheel-alignment-jigs/p36527-string-taut-between-th.html


Ken H.


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> yeah Ken, I was wondering if there was something in the rear suspension
> that I needed someone to look at.
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Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170474 is a reply to message #170473] Mon, 21 May 2012 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hal kading is currently offline  hal kading   United States
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Tom,

Does it still vibrate when you let off on the accelerator? If it stops I'd bet on a CV joint.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
Re: vibration in tires?? [message #170477 is a reply to message #170458] Mon, 21 May 2012 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tgeiger ;

I had a similar problen on my '78 Eleganza II

After replacing the front wheel bearings
it went away ~

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Re: vibration in tires?? [message #170481 is a reply to message #170477] Mon, 21 May 2012 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A couple of things.

It could be front CV joints. Check the front ride height. If it is off the CV joints are running at an abnormal angle.

Check the rear toe. Remove the hubcaps and place a strait edge across both rear wheels near the centers. A 5 foot aluminum "yard stick" works well for this. I doubt seriously it is camber but as long as you are there place a vertical level across each wheel.

There also is a possibility that you have an out of round tire. One of the old ones and one of the new ones could both be bad.


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Re: vibration in tires?? [message #170483 is a reply to message #170481] Mon, 21 May 2012 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

......vibration I get as I approach 65 mph......


For cv vibration some have swapped the axles; right side to left side. If that does the trick, rebuilt axles are in the future.


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Re: vibration in tires?? [message #170490 is a reply to message #170458] Tue, 22 May 2012 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've had the front end looked at and they've said everything looks fine with it, but I can have it checked again. I had Westfalls GMC Truck Center do a alignment on it after the wheels and tires were put on, but that dosn;t mean they had it right though. Only other thing I meant to mention was the wheel spacers I have up front, but there again I'm not feeling the fibration in the steering wheel, but rather in my seat. Does that not mean the same as it does on a car, pointing to the backtires or suspension as the source of the vibration. I know she's a sexy motorhome, but this jiggle in her rear I can do without. Confused

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170506 is a reply to message #170490] Tue, 22 May 2012 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Prob. not your problem,
but

you cannot see CV joint problems ;>)
read these slides

http://goo.gl/5N3YP

gene


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:08 AM, tom geiger <tgeiger@burnsmcd.com> wrote:

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> I've had the front end looked at and they've said everything looks fine
> with it, but I can have it checked again. I had Westfalls GMC Truck Center
> do a alignment on it after the wheels and tires were put on, but that
> dosn;t mean they had it right though. Only other thing I meant to mention
> was the wheel spacers I have up front, but there again I'm not feeling the
> fibration in the steering wheel, but rather in my seat. Does that not mean
> the same as it does on a car, pointing to the backtires or suspension as
> the source of the vibration. I know she's a sexy motorhome, but this
> jiggle in her rear I can do without. :?
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Re: vibration in tires?? [message #170508 is a reply to message #170458] Tue, 22 May 2012 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: First thing I would do is jack it up and put boards or cans or something in front and to the side of the tire real close and rotate tires and look for hi and low spots all the way around. Another thing is the rear brake drums and bearings. Some of the drums have welded on weights that could come off. Maybe check the drums for balance, I use to use a bubble balancer to check ~balance. A rough wheel bearing will also act up under speed.
I have never heard of a rear spindle being bent on a GMC but it is possible.






tgeiger wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 21:03

I've done everything I can think of for this vibration I get as I approach 65 mph. I know the motorhome wants to get up to 70 and better...I keep getting this vibration in my sit, which I think is meaning the back tires. I've got all new ammerican eagle rims and new tires all around, along with new shocks back there...and the vibration still exists. Any ideas guys? This vibration was there in the same way before all the new stuff...so I'm a bit baffled on this.



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Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170582 is a reply to message #170458] Tue, 22 May 2012 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm surprised someone didn't suggest having your tires 'trued'!
On May 21, 2012 9:03 PM, "tom geiger" <tgeiger@burnsmcd.com> wrote:

>
>
> I've done everything I can think of for this vibration I get as I approach
> 65 mph. I know the motorhome wants to get up to 70 and better...I keep
> getting this vibration in my sit, which I think is meaning the back tires.
> I've got all new ammerican eagle rims and new tires all around, along
> with new shocks back there...and the vibration still exists. Any ideas
> guys? This vibration was there in the same way before all the new
> stuff...so I'm a bit baffled on this.
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Re: [GMCnet] vibration in tires?? [message #170600 is a reply to message #170582] Tue, 22 May 2012 23:52 Go to previous message
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I would check the inner constant el. joint.
as Ken B suggested, swap side might be simpler.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM, David Greenberg
<gmcmotorhomeregistry@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm surprised someone didn't suggest having your tires 'trued'!
> On May 21, 2012 9:03 PM, "tom geiger" <tgeiger@burnsmcd.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I've done everything I can think of for this vibration I get as I approach
>> 65 mph.  I know the motorhome wants to get up to 70 and better...I keep
>> getting this vibration in my sit,  which I think is meaning the back tires.
>>  I've got all new ammerican eagle rims and new tires all around,  along
>> with new shocks back there...and the vibration still exists.  Any ideas
>> guys?  This vibration was there in the same way before all the new
>> stuff...so I'm a bit baffled on this.
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