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Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170016] Thu, 17 May 2012 17:49 Go to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello,

It has come to my attention there is a possible safety problem.
On my coach the bottom of the cabinet that the fridge sits on is several inches below the outside vent. Being as LP gas is heavier than air, this means if you had a leak, it would build up in that space between the vent and the base of the fridge....
Not sure if this topic has been mentioned previously.
Solution is fit several drain holes into the wheel well. This would help the gas escape to the outside. This is a problem i sm looking into as i am rebuilding the fridge cabinet. I may alter the height of the fridge base so it is level with the bottom of the fridge vent. Otherwise drill some round holes and fit with pvc pipe, so it goes through into the wheel well. what are your thoughts on this potential safety issue ????

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170026 is a reply to message #170016] Thu, 17 May 2012 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glacierfl wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 15:49

Hello,

It has come to my attention there is a possible safety problem.
On my coach the bottom of the cabinet that the fridge sits on is several inches below the outside vent. Being as LP gas is heavier than air, this means if you had a leak, it would build up in that space between the vent and the base of the fridge....
Not sure if this topic has been mentioned previously.
Solution is fit several drain holes into the wheel well. This would help the gas escape to the outside. This is a problem i sm looking into as i am rebuilding the fridge cabinet. I may alter the height of the fridge base so it is level with the bottom of the fridge vent. Otherwise drill some round holes and fit with pvc pipe, so it goes through into the wheel well. what are your thoughts on this potential safety issue ????

cheers and beers



That is the proper way to vent it. Mine has 3 or 4 holes about 1"in diameter and 1/4" screen mesh to keep critters out. If your fridg. is all electric the holes aren't needed but propane needs holes.


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170047 is a reply to message #170026] Thu, 17 May 2012 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello,
I thought i would mention this, as my 73 has a 3 way fridge and no holes to let out any leaking gas.... Likely i will drill holes as this is the easier option. Going to fit pvc piping, thats sealed both sides of the holes. This would stop any gas getting trapped between the shelf and the wheel liner, and posibly entering the coach through this exit point...

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT

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Re: Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170068 is a reply to message #170016] Fri, 18 May 2012 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike miller   United States
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glacierfl wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 15:49

Hello,

It has come to my attention there is a possible safety problem.
On my coach the bottom of the cabinet that the fridge sits on is several inches below the outside vent. Being as LP gas is heavier than air, this means if you had a leak, it would build up in that space between the vent and the base of the fridge....
Not sure if this topic has been mentioned previously.
Solution is fit several drain holes into the wheel well. This would help the gas escape to the outside. This is a problem i sm looking into as i am rebuilding the fridge cabinet. I may alter the height of the fridge base so it is level with the bottom of the fridge vent. Otherwise drill some round holes and fit with pvc pipe, so it goes through into the wheel well. what are your thoughts on this potential safety issue ????


I have brought this up from time to time.

Both the Birch's had propane frigs when new, and the cabinets are designed for it. But my 1st coaches cabinet was designed for an electric frig and a PO had swapped it out for a 3 way.

I drilled a hole through the bottom into the wheel-well and put a plastic sink drain pipe. I used some expanding foam to seal it in place. The 90 angle turn is toward the corner of the wheel well to help keep the drain clear.

I also ensured the cabinet was sealed from the inside of the coach.... I do not want any propane or fumes to make it into the coach.






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Re: [GMCnet] Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170074 is a reply to message #170016] Fri, 18 May 2012 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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That is what I did to mine after switching to a propane fridge. I screened
the openings in the PVC to keep out bugs.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> It has come to my attention there is a possible safety problem.
> On my coach the bottom of the cabinet that the fridge sits on is several
> inches below the outside vent. Being as LP gas is heavier than air, this
> means if you had a leak, it would build up in that space between the vent
> and the base of the fridge....
> Not sure if this topic has been mentioned previously.
> Solution is fit several drain holes into the wheel well. This would help
> the gas escape to the outside. This is a problem i sm looking into as i am
> rebuilding the fridge cabinet. I may alter the height of the fridge base so
> it is level with the bottom of the fridge vent. Otherwise drill some round
> holes and fit with pvc pipe, so it goes through into the wheel well. what
> are your thoughts on this potential safety issue ????
>
> cheers and beers
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170081 is a reply to message #170016] Fri, 18 May 2012 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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On Thursday, May 17, 2012, steve & debbie wrote:

> Otherwise drill some round holes and fit with pvc pipe, so it goes
> through into the wheel well. what are your thoughts on this potential
> safety issue ????
>

I used a scupper drain bought at a marine store, sealed in place, and fed
to the wheel well using flexible vinyl tubing. The drain includes a screen
in its design. My cabinet acces door is nearly flush with the bottom, so I
didn't need a very large drain. The drain also provides an escape path for
water that makes it through the vents.

Rick "even more concerned about CO leaking into the coach from the top of
the cabinet" Denney


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Re: [GMCnet] Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170091 is a reply to message #170081] Fri, 18 May 2012 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In replacing my frig with the "recommended" Dometic "exact" replacement, this became a problem. Because the new frig has a different and bigger cooling coil on top, it interferes with the curving of the GMC outside wall. I will have to remove, re-build and re-install the frig.
Note: the RM replacement is not an exact fit. It is the 80% solution.
Bottom line; it's an adventure, not a livelihood.
Tom Phipps,
75 Avion, with new frig without any propane connection, yet.


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Re: [GMCnet] Safety concern over fridge cabinet and LP fridge [message #170097 is a reply to message #170091] Fri, 18 May 2012 09:49 Go to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Tom,

Does your Avion have the little louvered disk on the outside at the bottom of the fridge enclosure?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/random-photos/p44269-avion-fridge-compartment-lpg-vent.html

The fridge in Double Trouble is a double door fridge and whoever installed it moved it into the aisle about 3 inches. It wasn't
necessary to move it that far.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Phipps

In replacing my frig with the "recommended" Dometic "exact" replacement, this became a problem. Because the new frig has a
different and bigger cooling coil on top, it interferes with the curving of the GMC outside wall. I will have to remove, re-build
and re-install the frig.
Note: the RM replacement is not an exact fit. It is the 80% solution.
Bottom line; it's an adventure, not a livelihood.
Tom Phipps,
75 Avion, with new frig without any propane connection, yet.

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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