| Exterior body panel work. [message #169937] |
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I am going to replace the front section of plastic of my Palm Beach. It is the plastic piece below the front windows down to the bumper that also housed the headlights and parking lights.
I would like to know if there i a way to release the bonds that attach the front section to the front fenders, or do I just cut them apart with a cut-off saw and glass them back together from the inside?
Thanks,
Bob Sobrito
78 Palm Beach
La Mesa, Ca
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| Re: [GMCnet] Exterior body panel work. [message #169944 is a reply to message #169937] |
Wed, 16 May 2012 23:07  |
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Do you have the dash and windshields out? It appears when looking at the inside of my 77 royale with no dash that the nose panel wraps the aluminum dash bulkhead(firewall) and is bonded and riveted directly under the windshields. How was the part you intend to install connected?
Sully
77 royale
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On May 16, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Bob Sobrito <rssbob@cox.net> wrote:
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> I am going to replace the front section of plastic of my Palm Beach. It is the plastic piece below the front windows down to the bumper that also housed the headlights and parking lights.
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> I would like to know if there i a way to release the bonds that attach the front section to the front fenders, or do I just cut them apart with a cut-off saw and glass them back together from the inside?
> Thanks,
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> Bob Sobrito
> 78 Palm Beach
> La Mesa, Ca
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| Re: [GMCnet] Exterior body panel work. [message #169951 is a reply to message #169944] |
Thu, 17 May 2012 00:35 |
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My plan is to "help" remove the piece from the donor coach. That way I can see how it was installed and it will tell me how I have to prep my vehicle to receive the part. I had thought I may have to remove the windshields but am waiting until I see how the piece comes off the donor.
Thanks.
On May 16, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
> Do you have the dash and windshields out? It appears when looking at the inside of my 77 royale with no dash that the nose panel wraps the aluminum dash bulkhead(firewall) and is bonded and riveted directly under the windshields. How was the part you intend to install connected?
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> Sully
> 77 royale
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> On May 16, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Bob Sobrito <rssbob@cox.net> wrote:
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>> I am going to replace the front section of plastic of my Palm Beach. It is the plastic piece below the front windows down to the bumper that also housed the headlights and parking lights.
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>> I would like to know if there i a way to release the bonds that attach the front section to the front fenders, or do I just cut them apart with a cut-off saw and glass them back together from the inside?
>> Thanks,
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>> Bob Sobrito
>> 78 Palm Beach
>> La Mesa, Ca
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| Re: [GMCnet] Exterior body panel work. [message #169963 is a reply to message #169958] |
Thu, 17 May 2012 08:32 |
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Rob: I have noticed that the glue holding the body panels on is Grey. I also noted on the Palm Beach the glue on one side was noticeably harder to break loose than the other side?? Thanks for the heat gun tip..
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/birchaven-project/p43034-dsc03846.html
| Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 08:47 |
Bob,
In the process of removing the fridge I came upon a horizontal cross member that the aluminum skin was glued to. I wanted to remove
it without destroying the crossmember or aluminum skin. I figger'd it was some kind of epoxy. Back in my Apollo days when we wanted
to remove epoxy from something we would heat it with a heat gun. NOT a hair dryer a HEAT GUN. I got out mine and applied heat to the
crossmember and in a few moments I familiar smell wafted through the interior. It smelled EXACTLY like the epoxy we used back in
those days. When I got the parts apart I noted that the epoxy was grey. I am reasonably confident that the epoxy use is 3M EC2216.
I don't know if EC2216 was used to glue the fiberglass to the body frame. I will be at the workshop tomorrow and will see what's in
the area you discuss below.
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: Bob Sobrito
I am going to replace the front section of plastic of my Palm Beach. It is the plastic piece below the front windows down to the
bumper that also housed the headlights and parking lights.
I would like to know if there i a way to release the bonds that attach the front section to the front fenders, or do I just cut them
apart with a cut-off saw and glass them back together from the inside?
Thanks,
Bob
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| Re: [GMCnet] Exterior body panel work. [message #169973 is a reply to message #169958] |
Thu, 17 May 2012 10:04 |
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Thanks Rob that is great news. I has wondered of a heat gun might be the trick.
Bob
On May 17, 2012, at 5:47 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Bob,
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> In the process of removing the fridge I came upon a horizontal cross member that the aluminum skin was glued to. I wanted to remove
> it without destroying the crossmember or aluminum skin. I figger'd it was some kind of epoxy. Back in my Apollo days when we wanted
> to remove epoxy from something we would heat it with a heat gun. NOT a hair dryer a HEAT GUN. I got out mine and applied heat to the
> crossmember and in a few moments I familiar smell wafted through the interior. It smelled EXACTLY like the epoxy we used back in
> those days. When I got the parts apart I noted that the epoxy was grey. I am reasonably confident that the epoxy use is 3M EC2216.
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> I don't know if EC2216 was used to glue the fiberglass to the body frame. I will be at the workshop tomorrow and will see what's in
> the area you discuss below.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Sobrito
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> I am going to replace the front section of plastic of my Palm Beach. It is the plastic piece below the front windows down to the
> bumper that also housed the headlights and parking lights.
>
> I would like to know if there i a way to release the bonds that attach the front section to the front fenders, or do I just cut them
> apart with a cut-off saw and glass them back together from the inside?
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
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| Re: [GMCnet] Exterior body panel work. [message #170008 is a reply to message #169983] |
Thu, 17 May 2012 16:41 |
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Mike,
EXCELLENT POINT!
I was aware of that and should have noted that I scraped the foam insulation off the aluminum to a distance well away from the area
I was heating even though only used a heat gun and not an open flame.
Comes under "better safe than sorry!"
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller
Safety note:
The spray foam used from the factory is VERY flammable. 8o
Be sure your method of heating takes that into account.
Mike
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