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WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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The owner of Prudentrver sold the buisness. The prices I am now quoted are extremely high and I can not do it. Should you have a bad light, go to the website and click on "return". The new lady should replace the light for you free of charge. If not call me and maybe I can get something done. I have just a few lights left, 6 of the reading lights and 5 of the high power leds. I also have several of the halogen replacements. It was good while it lasted.
Needless to say, I am not a happy camper. Will visit the factory owner next to see if I can work out something. I don't look for that to happen as he is not real interested in the RV buisness.
Oh well, should I run into another US or Canadian maker I will see if I can hook up with them.
Thanks,
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me [message #169607 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Dan , I don;t see a "return" link on the website. Maybe I am missing
something.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Gregg" <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me


>
>
> The owner of Prudentrver sold the buisness. The prices I am now quoted are
> extremely high and I can not do it. Should you have a bad light, go to the
> website and click on "return". The new lady should replace the light for
> you free of charge. If not call me and maybe I can get something done. I
> have just a few lights left, 6 of the reading lights and 5 of the high
> power leds. I also have several of the halogen replacements. It was good
> while it lasted.
> Needless to say, I am not a happy camper. Will visit the factory owner
> next to see if I can work out something. I don't look for that to happen
> as he is not real interested in the RV buisness.
> Oh well, should I run into another US or Canadian maker I will see if I
> can hook up with them.
> Thanks,
> Dan
> --
> Dan & Teri Gregg
> Soft White LED Lighting
>
> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
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Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169616 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How long did they last?
Everyone says that LEDs should last many times longer than incandescent bulbs.

-Bill


Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169619 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cree, a manufacturer of super bright LEDs claims their LEDs
should have at least 70% brightness after 4 years of continuous use.
See Below:


=========================================================
Lumen Maintenance Projections
Based on internal long-term reliability testing, Cree projects XLamp MX-6 LEDs will maintain an average of 70% or higher lumen maintenance after 35,000 hours, provided the LED is operated with a constant current of not more than 600 mA and ambient air temperature around the LED is maintained at or below 85°C.
Please read the XLamp Long-Term Lumen Maintenance application note for more details on Cree’s lumen maintenance testing and forecasting. Please read the XLamp Thermal Management application note for details on how thermal design, ambient temperature and drive current affect the LED junction temperature.
===================================================


Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169621 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now that's very sad news. I have the reading lamp but have not yet installed it, you see my wife and I are having one of those marital conversations where we're not talking to each other!

So, I have the new lamp but haven't popped it in the socket yet. Hopefully next weekend we'll take the coach to the coast for the night and I'll pop that thing in and see if she glows...

Keep it clean!


Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169632 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 18:18

The owner of Prudentrver sold the buisness. The prices I am now quoted are extremely high and I can not do it. Should you have a bad light, go to the website and click on "return". The new lady should replace the light for you free of charge. If not call me and maybe I can get something done. I have just a few lights left, 6 of the reading lights and 5 of the high power leds. I also have several of the halogen replacements. It was good while it lasted.
Needless to say, I am not a happy camper. Will visit the factory owner next to see if I can work out something. I don't look for that to happen as he is not real interested in the RV buisness.
Oh well, should I run into another US or Canadian maker I will see if I can hook up with them.
Thanks,
Dan

AW Geese...can you save one of those for me to replace the dim one that I have?
Larry Smile


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169642 is a reply to message #169632] Mon, 14 May 2012 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Larry, it will "glow". I check everything twice.
Larry, you will need to contact the owner through the website. If you have problems I will try to help. She will not replace for me. I have her email address if you cant find it, just email me.
Teri is glad I am not selling them anymore. I was making no money but I was enjoying hearing back from all of yall that bought them. This is a very good light. I spent 2 years searching for this and now its gone. I have not had good luck from china. Most of them will start popping when hit with 14 volts. These would run from 8 to 30 volts. I saw it with my own eyes. I think Jim K. has a few lights but not many. I set him up as a dealer last year. Never was reimbersed by prudent. Not a big deal. I had fun.
I can not sell what I won't buy myself. These, well, most of you have seen my coach. It is full of them.
Dan


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Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169643 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan, I'm going to Taiwan in a couple of weeks. There are some high quality vendors there, perhaps I can get some good pricing and see what they have first hand. At least bring some samples and we can rig a test setup to test power cycling and longevity.

I have the capability to manufacture these. Contact me off-net to discuss tomorrow. If you think the market is worth the effort, I know I already have two good salesmen for them (You and Ruff)


-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169644 is a reply to message #169643] Mon, 14 May 2012 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chr$ wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 20:23

Dan, I'm going to Taiwan in a couple of weeks. There are some high quality vendors there, perhaps I can get some good pricing and see what they have first hand. At least bring some samples and we can rig a test setup to test power cycling and longevity.

I have the capability to manufacture these. Contact me off-net to discuss tomorrow. If you think the market is worth the effort, I know I already have two good salesmen for them (You and Ruff)


Ok, thanks Chris.


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Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me [message #169648 is a reply to message #169642] Mon, 14 May 2012 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wasn't really worried about the LED "glowing" ;~)


Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Gregg" <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:23:40 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me



Larry, it will "glow". I check everything twice.
Larry, you will need to contact the owner through the website. If you have problems I will try to help. She will not replace for me. I have her email address if you cant find it, just email me.
Teri is glad I am not selling them anymore. I was making no money but I was enjoying hearing back from all of yall that bought them. This is a very good light. I spent 2 years searching for this and now its gone. I have not had good luck from china. Most of them will start popping when hit with 14 volts. These would run from 8 to 30 volts. I saw it with my own eyes. I think Jim K. has a few lights but not many. I set him up as a dealer last year. Never was reimbersed by prudent. Not a big deal. I had fun.
I can not sell what I won't buy myself. These, well, most of you have seen my coach. It is full of them.
Dan
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Soft White LED Lighting

http://danandteri.blogspot.com/

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Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me [message #169649 is a reply to message #169648] Mon, 14 May 2012 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ljdavick wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 20:49

I wasn't really worried about the LED "glowing" ;~)


Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach







I know that Larry. Those are slick lights for the bedroom. I had to fight with the new owner and pay shipping, both ways, when they cut them too short. I knew then life was getting short. That is why I bought 6 extras.
dan


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Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169657 is a reply to message #169591] Mon, 14 May 2012 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello all,
Funny how things change..... The glass light bulbs were better at illumination in my opinion. Far cheaper and they either worked or did not work. Progress ummmmm...

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169667 is a reply to message #169657] Mon, 14 May 2012 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glacierfl wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:31

Hello all,
Funny how things change..... The glass light bulbs were better at illumination in my opinion. Far cheaper and they either worked or did not work. Progress ummmmm...

cheers and beers


You never saw mine.
dan


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Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169699 is a reply to message #169591] Tue, 15 May 2012 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BUGGA! Dan
Got two lights off you when we stayed with you so that I could set them up and see how many I would need to do what I required. I guess now I will have to take them along to a supplier I used here one time to illuminate a special wall sign and see what he can provide. Are the lamp fittings (I think they are called baynets)available from another source than where the LED's came from?
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169700 is a reply to message #169699] Tue, 15 May 2012 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peter, I think I have 10 or 12 of the bases here. The new owner upped the price of the bases from 2 dollars to 5 I think. She wont be in buisness long. She is not good with communication, which I find extremely important.. Hollar if you need some bases.
Dan


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Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169736 is a reply to message #169657] Tue, 15 May 2012 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glacierfl wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 19:31

Hello all,
Funny how things change..... The glass light bulbs were better at illumination in my opinion. Far cheaper and they either worked or did not work. Progress ummmmm...

cheers and beers


I have several of "Dan's" LEDs, and I can attest to the fact that they do a superior job of illumination than either incandescent or fluorescent lamps.

But the whole point of LEDs is how much battery power you save when dry camping. If you are plugged in all the time, there is NO point in changing to LEDs, but if you dry camp, they are worth every penny in maintaining your battery charge and life.

I'm disappointed that Dan's source of these has gone away, as I haven't had a chance to change out several more of my Fluorescent fixtures to LEDs. I guess it just goes to show it doesn't pay to procrastinate. That's why I upgraded to the 3.70 LSD final drive and the Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm brakes. You never know when something bad is going to happen to the source of things like that.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: No More LED Lights From Me [message #169749 is a reply to message #169736] Tue, 15 May 2012 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl, and others, you can still buy the lights from the prudentrver.com website. Prices have increased.
I am still upset about this. No warning or I would have bought all I could afford. I offered yesterday to make a large purchase if I could get the prices we had. Answer was no.

Thanks to all who bought them from me. Your happiness with the light was my profit.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me [message #169794 is a reply to message #169749] Tue, 15 May 2012 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,

Double Trouble is not gotten to the stage of revamping the interior lighting so I never got any LED's from you, however, AFAIC to
hell with prudentrver! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gregg

Carl, and others, you can still buy the lights from the prudentrver.com website. Prices have increased.
I am still upset about this. No warning or I would have bought all I could afford. I offered yesterday to make a large purchase if I
could get the prices we had. Answer was no.

Thanks to all who bought them from me. Your happiness with the light was my profit.
Dan

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Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me [message #169798 is a reply to message #169749] Tue, 15 May 2012 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan, Give me the phone number of the folks that you have talked to. This
really pisses me off that these folks will not honor a warranty., My brother
is an attorney and he loves these cases. We'll bury these people in legal
fees if they don't respond. California loves product liability cases.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Gregg" <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me


>
>
> Carl, and others, you can still buy the lights from the prudentrver.com
> website. Prices have increased.
> I am still upset about this. No warning or I would have bought all I could
> afford. I offered yesterday to make a large purchase if I could get the
> prices we had. Answer was no.
>
> Thanks to all who bought them from me. Your happiness with the light was
> my profit.
> Dan
> --
> Dan & Teri Gregg
>
>
> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] No More LED Lights From Me [message #169802 is a reply to message #169798] Tue, 15 May 2012 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Gary, they will honor it. IF not I will send you a check. I will email you the information. Sorry about the problem. I will make you happy.
Dan


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