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Sun, 13 May 2012 19:19  |
stick miller
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I'm at Panama City Beach, FL with a need for some Duracool. My '96 Cadillac is in need of a shot of DC. Due to the cool weather at the Redneck Riviera, A/C is not a priority right now, but this Saturday I need to drive to Montgomery Alabama for a wedding. Nothing worse than a fat southerner in a sweaty tuxedo!
Anyone in the Florida panhandle or in LA (lower Alabama) or Greater Montgomery area with any Duracool? I have plenty at home in Americus, but it's the only thing I didn't bring with me. 2 weeks to go before we go home to Americus.
Thanks, in advance.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: Duracool - non GMC [message #169464 is a reply to message #169462] |
Sun, 13 May 2012 19:49  |
C Boyd
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| Stick Miller wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 20:19 |
I'm at Panama City Beach, FL with a need for some Duracool. My '96 Cadillac is in need of a shot of DC. Due to the cool weather at the Redneck Riviera, A/C is not a priority right now, but this Saturday I need to drive to Montgomery Alabama for a wedding. Nothing worse than a fat southerner in a sweaty tuxedo!
Anyone in the Florida panhandle or in LA (lower Alabama) or Greater Montgomery area with any Duracool? I have plenty at home in Americus, but it's the only thing I didn't bring with me. 2 weeks to go before we go home to Americus.
Thanks, in advance.
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Stick: PM me an address and I can mail you a couple of cans tomorrow. Replace them when I see you again.
C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
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| Re: Duracool - non GMC [message #169465 is a reply to message #169464] |
Sun, 13 May 2012 19:53 |
stick miller
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Thanks Chuck - I PM'd you. gonna check out a couple of things before pulling the panic button. Thanks again. Stick
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: Duracool - non GMC [message #169468 is a reply to message #169465] |
Sun, 13 May 2012 20:27 |
C Boyd
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| Stick Miller wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 20:53 |
Thanks Chuck - I PM'd you. gonna check out a couple of things before pulling the panic button. Thanks again. Stick
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Copy that.. Cat works at the post office at UT so no out of route miles if needed.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: Duracool - non GMC [message #169491 is a reply to message #169462] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 00:26 |
Ken Burton
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Any of these places should have it. Call them first.
A-1 Appliance Locations
Alabama
Huntsville, AL
Head Office
11208 Memorial Pkwy SW Unit G
Huntsville, AL 35803
Phone: 800-841-0312
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Albertville, AL
Appliance Parts of Albertville
5914 U.S Hwy 431
Albertville, AL 35950
Phone: 256-878-6040
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Decatur, AL
Appliance Parts of Decatur
814 - 6th Avenue SE
Decatur, AL 35601
Phone: 800-827-1934
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Dothan, AL
A-1 Appliance Parts
508 North College St.
Dothan, AL 36303
Phone: 334-793-5002
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Florence, AL
A-Z Appliance Parts
511 S. Cherry Street
Florence, AL 35630
Phone: 256-767-5124
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Gadsden, AL
Appliance Parts of Gadsden
1030 1st Avenue
Gadsden, AL 35904
Phone: 256-546-5271
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Mobile, AL
A-1 Appliance Parts
3308 Spring Hill Avenue
Mobile, AL 36607
Phone: 251-471-1058
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Montgomery, AL
A-1 Appliance Parts
2300 Spruce St.
Montgomery, AL 36107
Phone: 334-263-6412
View Map | Hours: Mon to Fr. 8:00am to 5pm CST
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169495 is a reply to message #169462] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 02:41 |
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Stick,
IIRC when was working on Double Trouble at the COOP they could not put Duracool in it because it is illegal to sell in FL.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stick Miller
I'm at Panama City Beach, FL with a need for some Duracool. My '96 Cadillac is in need of a shot of DC. Due to the cool weather at
the Redneck Riviera, A/C is not a priority right now, but this Saturday I need to drive to Montgomery Alabama for a wedding. Nothing
worse than a fat southerner in a sweaty tuxedo!
Anyone in the Florida panhandle or in LA (lower Alabama) or Greater Montgomery area with any Duracool? I have plenty at home in
Americus, but it's the only thing I didn't bring with me. 2 weeks to go before we go home to Americus.
Thanks, in advance.
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Stick
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169511 is a reply to message #169495] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 08:51 |
stick miller
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Thanks to all. Ken has suggested a couple of things I can do such as jumping the pressure switch. I need to run her on a couple of errands then I'll go to work.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169564 is a reply to message #169511] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 14:25 |
stick miller
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Well, call off the troops, I guess. Our errands were run and the a/c performed flawlessly. I can only figure and agree with Ken H. who says that I'm running close to the edge of what will engage the pressure switch and the compressor.
I'm going to "let sleeping dogs lie" and leave it alone. If I have another failure, I have a paper clip I can jump the switch.
Thanks for the offers. I'll never again leave home without it.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169571 is a reply to message #169568] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 16:17 |
Mr ERFisher
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I most states,it is ok to upgrade to R-134 (change the connectors - just
screw on adapters)
then it is legal to convert from R-234 to Duracool , which is noting more
than adding the duracool....
so
screw on the adapters and add duracool ( with the notice attached to the
rad.)
and you have made both conversions in one move ;>)
gene
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Duracool is only "illegal" in Kansas, along with many other fun things. :)
> Most A/C dealers do not acknowledge the propane mixtures because of the
> low profit margins. DuPont (and others) are dead set against their cooling
> gas monopolies being upset by cheap propane/butane mixture. Maybe we could
> get T. Boone Pickins interested. He has lots of gas. (and money)
> Members of the Freon family are more deadly than the naturally occurring
> propane. The "next" version is even worst than the current R134. While
> Europe and the rest of the World use propane/butane mixtures, we and other
> leading nations, such as Burma stick with Freon and its friends.
> Tom Phipps,
> MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169584 is a reply to message #169568] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 17:57 |
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I think it is also "illegal" in Oklahoma, as well as
a whole lot of other states. I have seen a website
URL posted here some months back that showed the
extent of "illegality" nationwide.
If I were all that interested, I'd play with Google
to find out.
I have no idea whether my A/C system would even hold
refrigerant of ANY kind. I don't know of anybody local
that could help me with it.
I do have a case of D/C when I get around to pursuing
the dash air someday in the future.
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC
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> Duracool is only "illegal" in Kansas, along with many other fun things. :) Most A/C dealers do not acknowledge the propane mixtures because of the low profit margins. DuPont (and others) are dead set against their cooling gas monopolies being upset by cheap propane/butane mixture. Maybe we could get T. Boone Pickins interested. He has lots of gas. (and money)
> Members of the Freon family are more deadly than the naturally occurring propane. The "next" version is even worst than the current R134. While Europe and the rest of the World use propane/butane mixtures, we and other leading nations, such as Burma stick with Freon and its friends.
> Tom Phipps,
> MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169588 is a reply to message #169584] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 18:14 |
stick miller
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I understand that the molecules in DC are larger than those in R-134. For some reason the charge has stayed good. I probably have the incorrect pressure switch on my car and if I recall, Ken and I didn't open another can thinking mine was close. Right now mine is making "ice cubes."
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169600 is a reply to message #169588] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 18:27 |
Ken Henderson
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To be specific: Stick's original (purple-bodied) low pressure cut-off
switch failed (I/we may have stripped its plastic threads) so he bought a
new one from O'Reilly's. We noticed, but didn't worry about, that it had a
yellow (IIRC) body. With the yellow switch, the compressor shuts off when
the low side gets down to about 22 psi. Since we really wanted to get down
to 20 psi for best cooling, we were faced with a irreconcilable parameters.
So we charged to about 22-24 psi. That gives him good cooling, but more
frequent than desirable compressor cycling. When he's done lazing about in
his Panama City Beach-front condo, we'll put in a little more Duracool to
eliminate the cycling (sometimes more OFF than ON), at the cost of a little
warmer air. Unless we can find a switch with a lower cutout pressure,
preferably 15 psi or less.
Ken H.
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Stick Miller wrote:
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> I understand that the molecules in DC are larger than those in R-134. For
> some reason the charge has stayed good. I probably have the incorrect
> pressure switch on my car and if I recall, Ken and I didn't open another
> can thinking mine was close. Right now mine is making "ice cubes."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169601 is a reply to message #169600] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 18:33 |
stick miller
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I have "lazing about" down to an art.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Duracool - non GMC [message #169637 is a reply to message #169568] |
Mon, 14 May 2012 20:15 |
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| tphipps wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 13:42 |
Duracool is only "illegal" in Kansas, along with many other fun things.  Most A/C dealers do not acknowledge the propane mixtures because of the low profit margins. DuPont (and others) are dead set against their cooling gas monopolies being upset by cheap propane/butane mixture. Maybe we could get T. Boone Pickins interested. He has lots of gas. (and money)
Members of the Freon family are more deadly than the naturally occurring propane. The "next" version is even worst than the current R134. While Europe and the rest of the World use propane/butane mixtures, we and other leading nations, such as Burma stick with Freon and its friends.
Tom Phipps,
MS II
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Here is a repeat of a post I made in late Feb. of this year:
I copied this from the Jan.2012 issue of ASHRAE Journal (American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and Airconditioning Engineers).
It looks like the EPA may finally be allowing some limited use of Propane type refrigerants in this country. The sky will fall, the world may go up in flames, but by god they are willing to try it! Now, note, this is not approval for Dura Cool in Automobile AC units, but it at least is getting closer, eh?
"3 Hydrocarbons Approved for Household Appliances
For the first time, the US Environmental Protection Agency has added three hydrocarbons as acceptable alternatives in household and small commercial refrigerators and freezers.
EPA took action after requests from Ben and Jerry's and General Electric, as well as A.S. Trust and Holdings, and True Manufacturing, a family owned small business. These businesses are helping clear the way for US companies to use ozone layer protective hydrocarbon refrigerants. Under the Clean Air Act, the EPA evaluates substitute chemicals and technologies for ozone depleting substances. The three hydrocarbon refrigerants approved as acceptable, with use conditions, are propane (R 290), isobutene (R 600) and a blend of propane, butane, and isobutane known as R 441a. These newly approved refrigerants are approved as replacements for the ozone depleting refrigerants R 12, R 22, and R 134a."
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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