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Can anyone give me the number of the trans filter real quick? I am in court and a lady called Teri needing the number. Mechanic has coach on stands now but cant find part number for filter.
Thanks,
Dan


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WD0AFQ wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 12:22

Can anyone give me the number of the trans filter real quick? I am in court and a lady called Teri needing the number. Mechanic has coach on stands now but cant find part number for filter.
Thanks,
Dan


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Re: Trans Filter Number [message #169139 is a reply to message #169136] Thu, 10 May 2012 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Ken.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169170 is a reply to message #169139] Thu, 10 May 2012 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,

You're probably not in court anymore so this may be too late. Remember our
discussion that some of the inlet tubes were not bent correctly and did not
extend to the correct depth in the pan.

IIRC MattC made us aware of that problem.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gregg

Thanks Ken.
Dan

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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169184 is a reply to message #169170] Thu, 10 May 2012 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 17:51

Dan,

You're probably not in court anymore so this may be too late. Remember our
discussion that some of the inlet tubes were not bent correctly and did not
extend to the correct depth in the pan.

IIRC MattC made us aware of that problem.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gregg

Thanks Ken.
Dan



I remember that discussion but I forget what brand it was that had that problem.


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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169191 is a reply to message #169184] Thu, 10 May 2012 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Went to the Photosite and I had 'member'd correctly:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36674-trans-filters.html

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton

I remember that discussion but I forget what brand it was that had that
problem.
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169200 is a reply to message #169191] Thu, 10 May 2012 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 20:33

Ken,

Went to the Photosite and I had 'member'd correctly:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36674-trans-filters.html

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton

I remember that discussion but I forget what brand it was that had that
problem.
--
Ken

Good on you Rob.

The one with the steel pick up is a Wix - Special ordered.

I later pulled some other brand from a different supplier (NAPA iirc) out of a box and found that it had the same issue and probably came off the same tooling.

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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169203 is a reply to message #169200] Thu, 10 May 2012 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh dang. I hope they found the correct one. Why she calls me I really don't know. I do try to help her by coming here for information and then passing it back to her. She has been here before. I know she also calls Jerry Wheeler. Nice lady. Think she is around 80 and her husband is 86. They made their first trip down the Mississippi, from northern Il. to lower Lousiana, a couple of months back. Never had a problem. I know Jim K. has also helped her.
Anyway, as always, you guys helped us out once again.
thanks,
Dan and Teri


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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169215 is a reply to message #169191] Thu, 10 May 2012 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 17:33]Ken,

Went to the Photosite and I had 'member'd correctly:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36674-trans-filters.html

Regards,
Rob M.



So, in that photo, which is the correct one?
The upper or lower?

Which brand are you 'folks in the know' using
currently?

Thanks!


Bukzin
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Re: Trans Filter Number [message #169216 is a reply to message #169131] Fri, 11 May 2012 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The one on the top with copper plating is the good one.
I don't think they make them like that anymore.
The Fram I bought looks like the bottom one with the bad pick up.

-Bill


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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169219 is a reply to message #169215] Fri, 11 May 2012 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I may have remembered who posted the picture but I posted the WRONG one!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36675-trans-filters.html

Look at the distance from the "bottom" of the filter to the bottom of the
inlet tube and you will see that the copper one is further from the bottom.

I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that while there are lots of
brands that they are all made in China.

And you know what JimK says about that! ;-)

Bottom line: no matter where you buy one CHECK IT!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard

So, in that photo, which is the correct one?
The upper or lower?

Which brand are you 'folks in the know' using
currently?

Thanks!
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169224 is a reply to message #169219] Fri, 11 May 2012 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tried to respond to this post on my phone, looks like it didn't work.  We use the ATP brand part number B40.  The filter fits correctly and the gasket works.  We also use a thin film of Permatex aircraft sealant Manny turned us onto-- it works great too.
 
No mysteries here just make sure the mating surface on the pan is very flat and do not overtorque the bolts--  good luck,
 
Jim Bounds
------------------------


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G'day,

I may have remembered who posted the picture but I posted the WRONG one!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36675-trans-filters.html

Look at the distance from the "bottom" of the filter to the bottom of the
inlet tube and you will see that the copper one is further from the bottom.

I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that while there are lots of
brands that they are all made in China.

And you know what JimK says about that! ;-)

Bottom line: no matter where you buy one CHECK IT!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard

So, in that photo, which is the correct one?
The upper or lower?

Which brand are you 'folks in the know' using
currently?

Thanks!
--
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169229 is a reply to message #169224] Fri, 11 May 2012 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim would the Permatex aircraft sealant be the blue sticky stuff called Hylomar?

Hylomar is a product developed by Rolls Royce and licensed out to Permatex and a few other sealant manufacturers. It is great for this type of application. The correct method of application is to use a small stiff brush (acid brush) and dab it on in a thin coat so that the surface has a slightly textured look (stippled finish). A finger works almost as well as long as you smear it on then dab to get the stippled finish. This provides for a small amount of compression of the sealant when the components are torqued up. Here at Rolls Royce we use Hylomar on joints with machined mating surfaces adusk ten do not use any gaskets. It works well for joints where the internal pressures are minimal. Hylomar can sit for days after application and will still seal well when the components are assembled together. It has a soft plastic type quality to it. The stuff is a bugger to remove once cooked on, requiring a strong solvent and some scrapping/scrubbing action.

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On 2012-05-11, at 8:21 AM, Jim Bounds <gmccoop@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Tried to respond to this post on my phone, looks like it didn't work. We use the ATP brand part number B40. The filter fits correctly and the gasket works. We also use a thin film of Permatex aircraft sealant Manny turned us onto-- it works great too.
>
> No mysteries here just make sure the mating surface on the pan is very flat and do not overtorque the bolts-- good luck,
>
> Jim Bounds
> ------------------------
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number
>
> G'day,
>
> I may have remembered who posted the picture but I posted the WRONG one!
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36675-trans-filters.html
>
> Look at the distance from the "bottom" of the filter to the bottom of the
> inlet tube and you will see that the copper one is further from the bottom.
>
> I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that while there are lots of
> brands that they are all made in China.
>
> And you know what JimK says about that! ;-)
>
> Bottom line: no matter where you buy one CHECK IT!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard
>
> So, in that photo, which is the correct one?
> The upper or lower?
>
> Which brand are you 'folks in the know' using
> currently?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Bukzin
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169233 is a reply to message #169191] Fri, 11 May 2012 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found the pictures that I put up on the AC filter that is the one
that you really want but is very hard to find. After the first
picture there are 4 more pictures that show the filter itself.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p36768-ac-transmission-filter.html

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On May 10, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Went to the Photosite and I had 'member'd correctly:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36674-trans-filters.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Burton
>
> I remember that discussion but I forget what brand it was that had
> that
> problem.
> --
> Ken
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169235 is a reply to message #169229] Fri, 11 May 2012 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Les,

Permatex Aviation Form a Gasket is a brownish - black color.

http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_seal
ants/auto_Permatex_Aviation_Form-A-Gasket_No_3_Sealant_a.htm

Permatex Hylomar

http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_seal
ants/auto_Permatex_Hylomar_Universal_Blue_Racing_Formula_Gasket_Dressing_Fla
nge_Sealant.htm

Harley-Davidson specified it on their Evolution engines in a number of
locations.

To make sure nobody gets confused Manny recommends it to be used on the
gaskets for trans pan and chain cover.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Burt

Jim would the Permatex aircraft sealant be the blue sticky stuff called
Hylomar?

Hylomar is a product developed by Rolls Royce and licensed out to Permatex
and a few other sealant manufacturers. It is great for this type of
application. The correct method of application is to use a small stiff brush
(acid brush) and dab it on in a thin coat so that the surface has a slightly
textured look (stippled finish). A finger works almost as well as long as
you smear it on then dab to get the stippled finish. This provides for a
small amount of compression of the sealant when the components are torqued
up. Here at Rolls Royce we use Hylomar on joints with machined mating
surfaces adusk ten do not use any gaskets. It works well for joints where
the internal pressures are minimal. Hylomar can sit for days after
application and will still seal well when the components are assembled
together. It has a soft plastic type quality to it. The stuff is a bugger to
remove once cooked on, requiring a strong solvent and some
scrapping/scrubbing action.

Les

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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169237 is a reply to message #169215] Fri, 11 May 2012 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bukzin wrote on Fri, 11 May 2012 00:02

So, in that photo, which is the correct one?
The upper or lower?

Which brand are you 'folks in the know' using
currently?

Thanks!

Richard,

The filter with the copper pickup is the original. The steel pickup is all I have seen recently. Some of those have the pickup tube nearly parallel to the filter body.

All I can say is Good Luck.

Matt


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In reference to the descp with that first pic "3/8 difference means about a quart of level that can't be used. "

I would think the bigger problem would be the possibility of sucking air if the fluid were low or sloshed to the other side.


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Re: Trans Filter Number [message #169257 is a reply to message #169131] Fri, 11 May 2012 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Fram filter I purchased looked like the one
in the bottom of the picture with the steel inlet.
The inlet pipe was a loose fit on the filter body and it
hit the bottom of the pan when I tried to install it.

Also, as mentioned above, the inlet is cut at the wrong angle,
not parallel to the bottom of the pan.

I would not recommend using the Fram filter.

Regards,
Bill


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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169280 is a reply to message #169257] Fri, 11 May 2012 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill,

Maybe the inlet tube was cut at the "wrong" angle and loose was so that it
would hit the bottom of the pan and not get sealed off?

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wevers

The Fram filter I purchased looked like the one
in the bottom of the picture with the steel inlet.
The inlet pipe was a loose fit on the filter body and it
hit the bottom of the pan when I tried to install it.

Also, as mentioned above, the inlet is cut at the wrong angle,
not parallel to the bottom of the pan.

I would not recommend using the Fram filter.

Regards,
Bill

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Re: [GMCnet] Trans Filter Number [message #169281 is a reply to message #169224] Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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G'day,

I took a the round end of a ball peen hammer and put it "into" the bolt
holes on the trans pan and dimpled them "outwards" SLIGHTY!!! using a second
hammer.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bounds

Tried to respond to this post on my phone, looks like it didn't work.  We
use the ATP brand part number B40.  The filter fits correctly and the gasket
works.  We also use a thin film of Permatex aircraft sealant Manny turned us
onto-- it works great too.
 
No mysteries here just make sure the mating surface on the pan is very flat
and do not overtorque the bolts--  good luck,
 
Jim


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