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Not being expert in anything, I searched the Internet and found a comment that the paste included with the Modules from the Auto Parts stores is not Thermal Compound, but Dielectric Grease which is used for conductivity not Thermal cooling. It was suggested that by not using the proper compound the life of the Module was reduced.





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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168381 is a reply to message #168358] Thu, 03 May 2012 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard,
The Dielectric grease is a good grease to use as it does provide for
the proper cooling of the module. There are other available that have
other adders that may provide more thermo transfer the Dielectric
grease but as long as there is no air gap under the module the grease
with move the heat to the distributor shell. I presently use a
dielectric grease.

JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On May 3, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard MacDonald wrote:

>
>
> Not being expert in anything, I searched the Internet and found a
> comment that the paste included with the Modules from the Auto Parts
> stores is not Thermal Compound, but Dielectric Grease which is used
> for conductivity not Thermal cooling. It was suggested that by not
> using the proper compound the life of the Module was reduced.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Richard MacDonald
> Punta Gorda, Florida
> 76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168386 is a reply to message #168358] Thu, 03 May 2012 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

KenB advised that Radio Shack sells "Arctic Silver" which is a grease that
is used between PC CPU's and their heat sinks.

I recently rebuilt a spare distributor and that's what I used.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879

Yeah, I know - OVERKILL!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard MacDonald

Not being expert in anything, I searched the Internet and found a comment
that the paste included with the Modules from the Auto Parts stores is not
Thermal Compound, but Dielectric Grease which is used for conductivity not
Thermal cooling. It was suggested that by not using the proper compound the
life of the Module was reduced.

Richard


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Re: Ignition Module installation [message #168407 is a reply to message #168358] Thu, 03 May 2012 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, Rob, Rob…. I find it hard to believe, and saddened by the fact, that you and KenB have fallen for the marketing hype that “Arctic Silver” is a superior thermal grease and SO MUCH BETTER!!!!

When in fact, and for only a mere ~20% difference in performance, that Lipstick, Toothpaste, Diaper Ointment, and Butter work just as well.

And for all you BBQr'S out there.... Mayonnaise and Mustard work even BETTER.

Therefore, based on cost & availability, I would say they are SUPERIOR PRODUCTS!!!!

And for you doubters out there, I support my claims with the following exhaustive research:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490



OK, OK, Just pulling your leg Laughing


Actually, I like Zalman STG1 as it paints on like nail polish and falls in about the middle of the pack.

Carl P.
76 Birchaven
South of Fremont

PS – For sure…. DON’T USE CHOCALATE!!!!
Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168417 is a reply to message #168407] Thu, 03 May 2012 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

No worries, Mate, I'm not like some of the people here who can't stand to be
questioned or criticized! ;-)

As a matter of fact I was really hoodwinked! Radio Shack sell two other
compounds BOTH of which are cheaper I picked the Arctic Silver cause I
figger'd that since it was more EXPENSIVE it was better!

This PROVES that I DEFINETLY have more money than sense! ;-)

Thanks for test results! I LOVE having HARD DATA to compare.

BTW I spoke for myself, I only mentioned KenB because I didn't want him to
think I was taking credit for something he suggested. Hmmmmm maybe I should
have at least he wouldn't have caught flak too! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

PS - what does noi stand for?

-----Original Message-----
From: noi

Rob, Rob, Rob; I find it hard to believe, and saddened by the fact, that you
and KenB have fallen for the marketing hype that Arctic Silver is a superior
thermal grease and SO MUCH BETTER!!!!

When in fact, and for only a mere ~20% difference in performance, that
Lipstick, Toothpaste, Diaper Ointment, and Butter work just as well.

And for all you BBQr'S out there.... Mayonnaise and Mustard work even
BETTER.

Therefore, based on cost & availability, I would say they are SUPERIOR
PRODUCTS!!!!

And for you doubters out there, I support my claims with the following
exhaustive research:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2
012/1490

OK, OK, Just pulling your leg :lol:

Actually, I like Zalman STG1 as it paints on like nail polish and falls in
about the middle of the pack.

Carl

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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168434 is a reply to message #168386] Fri, 04 May 2012 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

What I used. Should last for a while.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVMRR0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Best Regards.


On 5/3/2012 6:21 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> G'day,
>
> KenB advised that Radio Shack sells "Arctic Silver" which is a grease that
> is used between PC CPU's and their heat sinks.
>
> I recently rebuilt a spare distributor and that's what I used.
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879
>
> Yeah, I know - OVERKILL!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard MacDonald
>
> Not being expert in anything, I searched the Internet and found a comment
> that the paste included with the Modules from the Auto Parts stores is not
> Thermal Compound, but Dielectric Grease which is used for conductivity not
> Thermal cooling. It was suggested that by not using the proper compound the
> life of the Module was reduced.
>
> Richard
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168438 is a reply to message #168386] Fri, 04 May 2012 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 03 May 2012 18:21

G'day,

KenB advised that Radio Shack sells "Arctic Silver" which is a grease that is used between PC CPU's and their heat sinks.

I recently rebuilt a spare distributor and that's what I used.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879

Yeah, I know - OVERKILL!

Regards,
Rob M.

Rob,

Given your aptitude in this area, the choice cannot be considered not overkill. Just a good choice for best outcome and highest reliability.

I have about six flavors of heat sink grease that are doled out based mostly on cost to replace and reliability desired.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168454 is a reply to message #168434] Fri, 04 May 2012 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard,

Thanks for that.

However, now I REALLY feel like a dope! I pay $11.99 for 3.5 grams of Arctic
Silver and you pay $14.91 for 200 grams of Ice Fusion!

Man they seen me a comin' didn't they! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.


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Rob,

What I used. Should last for a while.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVMRR0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Best Regards.


On 5/3/2012 6:21 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> G'day,
>
> KenB advised that Radio Shack sells "Arctic Silver" which is a grease that
> is used between PC CPU's and their heat sinks.
>
> I recently rebuilt a spare distributor and that's what I used.
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879
>
> Yeah, I know - OVERKILL!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard MacDonald
>
> Not being expert in anything, I searched the Internet and found a comment
> that the paste included with the Modules from the Auto Parts stores is not
> Thermal Compound, but Dielectric Grease which is used for conductivity not
> Thermal cooling. It was suggested that by not using the proper compound
the
> life of the Module was reduced.
>
> Richard
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168461 is a reply to message #168454] Fri, 04 May 2012 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168483 is a reply to message #168454] Fri, 04 May 2012 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

I can't believe you missed this - in your own back yard...

http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm


Of course you need an hour or two to read and digest. I like his reference
to "Polywhatcamacallits" etc

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> However, now I REALLY feel like a dope! I pay $11.99 for 3.5 grams of
> Arctic
> Silver and you pay $14.91 for 200 grams of Ice Fusion!
>
> Man they seen me a comin' didn't they! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Richard MacDonald
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:55 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation
>
> Rob,
>
> What I used. Should last for a while.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVMRR0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
>
> Best Regards.
>
>
> On 5/3/2012 6:21 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> > G'day,
> >
> > KenB advised that Radio Shack sells "Arctic Silver" which is a grease
> that
> > is used between PC CPU's and their heat sinks.
> >
> > I recently rebuilt a spare distributor and that's what I used.
> >
> > http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879
> >
> > Yeah, I know - OVERKILL!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard MacDonald
> >
> > Not being expert in anything, I searched the Internet and found a comment
> > that the paste included with the Modules from the Auto Parts stores is
> not
> > Thermal Compound, but Dielectric Grease which is used for conductivity
> not
> > Thermal cooling. It was suggested that by not using the proper compound
> the
> > life of the Module was reduced.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168526 is a reply to message #168483] Fri, 04 May 2012 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,

The article is BRILLIANT! Especially when he talks about toothpaste and
Vegemite.

For those of you who have not attended a GMCMI Convention where one of we
Aussies have provided a sample of Vegemite it's a staple of the Australian
diet. Australians are raised on it like Americans are raised on peanut
butter. It is a yeast paste. However, it seems it does not suit the American
pallet.

Peter & Kay Bailey (Fair Dinkum Aussies) curried favor at the Shawnee
Convention by bringing a bunch of Tim Tams and putting them out for the
attendees to sample. They went over BIG TIME and everybody loved them!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tam

So what does this have to do with the Ignition Module, not a BLOODY thing,
just rambling on! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Eckert

Rob,

I can't believe you missed this - in your own back yard...

http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

Of course you need an hour or two to read and digest. I like his reference
to "Polywhatcamacallits" etc

Tom


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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168535 is a reply to message #168526] Fri, 04 May 2012 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 04 May 2012 19:00


Tom,

The article is BRILLIANT! Especially when he talks about toothpaste and
Vegemite.

For those of you who have not attended a GMCMI Convention where one of we
Aussies have provided a sample of Vegemite it's a staple of the Australian
diet. Australians are raised on it like Americans are raised on peanut
butter. It is a yeast paste. However, it seems it does not suit the American
pallet.

So what does this have to do with the Ignition Module, not a BLOODY thing,
just rambling on! Wink

Regards,
Rob M.




Geez - I thought you were gonna tell us that Vegemite could be used as a heat sink compound.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168536 is a reply to message #168526] Fri, 04 May 2012 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""For those of you who have not attended a GMCMI Convention where one of we
Aussies have provided a sample of Vegemite it's a staple of the Australian
diet. Australians are raised on it like Americans are raised on peanut
butter. It is a yeast paste. However, it seems it does not suit the American
pallet.

""

I grew up with this in Holland--in fact I'm sure the Aussies stole this from the Dutch!


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168546 is a reply to message #168536] Fri, 04 May 2012 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

Well Australia DID start out as a prison colony! ;-)

But then there are these ads which sure look like they're from the 1950's or
60's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=JUxun4OZXS0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=0yA98MujNeM&NR=1

Here's a video that is representative of what happened when GMCer's tried
it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa1ivhMrWBY&feature=related

However, if you follow my Mates instructions below I think you will find it
a much better and tasty experience!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n34e5DMza3g&feature=related

Regards,
Rob M.

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I grew up with this in Holland--in fact I'm sure the Aussies stole this from
the Dutch!
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168577 is a reply to message #168546] Sat, 05 May 2012 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Bob,

Well Australia DID start out as a prison colony! Wink

""

BTW, I forgot to mention that I love the stuff.


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168598 is a reply to message #168526] Sat, 05 May 2012 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

Before installing any ignition module, if a morning task have a Pork Roll
(Taylor Ham or Case) and egg sandwich on a hard roll add cheese if you
like. If afternoon NJ pizza or Jimmy Buff's.

Ton E

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>
> Tom,
>
> The article is BRILLIANT! Especially when he talks about toothpaste and
> Vegemite.
>
> For those of you who have not attended a GMCMI Convention where one of we
> Aussies have provided a sample of Vegemite it's a staple of the Australian
> diet. Australians are raised on it like Americans are raised on peanut
> butter. It is a yeast paste. However, it seems it does not suit the
> American
> pallet.
>
> Peter & Kay Bailey (Fair Dinkum Aussies) curried favor at the Shawnee
> Convention by bringing a bunch of Tim Tams and putting them out for the
> attendees to sample. They went over BIG TIME and everybody loved them!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tam
>
> So what does this have to do with the Ignition Module, not a BLOODY thing,
> just rambling on! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Eckert
>
> Rob,
>
> I can't believe you missed this - in your own back yard...
>
> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm
>
> Of course you need an hour or two to read and digest. I like his reference
> to "Polywhatcamacallits" etc
>
> Tom
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168873 is a reply to message #168386] Tue, 08 May 2012 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 03 May 2012 17:21

G'day,

KenB advised that Radio Shack sells "Arctic Silver" which is a grease that
is used between PC CPU's and their heat sinks.

I recently rebuilt a spare distributor and that's what I used.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879

Yeah, I know - OVERKILL!

Regards,
Rob M.




Here is another source:

http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Polysynthetic-Thermal-Compound/dp/B0002VFXFE/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_c



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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168889 is a reply to message #168535] Tue, 08 May 2012 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> Geez - I thought you were gonna tell us that Vegemite could be used as a heat sink compound.

Naw. It hardens too much and sets up like epoxy, making subsequent
removal of the part impossible without a plasma cutter.

Rick "who has consumed tastier battery acid" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168971 is a reply to message #168889] Tue, 08 May 2012 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rick,

The Aussie that did a bunch of test did try Vegemite and mayonnaise! He
noted they worked too.

However, he commented that they worked because they were "wet" and once they
dried out validated your comments below.

I'm telling you guys that if you spread it REAL thin on buttered toast it is
nice.

Having said that I guess I've become a real Skippy.

Let's see who knows what that means! Aussies no tellin' the Yanks!

Regards,
Rob M.

PS - Glad to see you're back!

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Denney

Naw. It hardens too much and sets up like epoxy, making subsequent
removal of the part impossible without a plasma cutter.

Rick "who has consumed tastier battery acid" Denney


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Re: [GMCnet] Ignition Module installation [message #168988 is a reply to message #168971] Tue, 08 May 2012 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Having said that I guess I've become a real Skippy.
>
> Let's see who knows what that means! Aussies no tellin' the Yanks!

I just never figured out how a TV kangaroo morphs into a slightly
pejorative description for an Anglo-Aussie.

Rick "no worries, mate" Denney

--
'73 230 "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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