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Re: [GMCnet] combiner question [message #167748] Fri, 27 April 2012 10:09 Go to next message
Gary Casey is currently offline  Gary Casey   United States
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I suppose I'm being simplistic, and I know I'm being cheap, but I was also worried about having the alternator output and voltage sense taps being on opposite sides of a diode.  So I just threw away the diode and hard-wired the engine side together.  I use the standard interconnect contactor to join the engine and coach batteries together, switched from the dash.  I have a voltmeter that I can switch from the engine battery to the coach battery and I have a warning light to tell me the interconnect is on.  I just turn on the interconnect after starting to charge the coach.  Simple and foolproof - well, proof from all the fools except me.
Gary
 
Previously from Ken:
...
The point I'm trying to emphasize is that the existence of a good
alternator-to-chassis diode now has nothing to do with an hour from now --
it can fail even with the combiner in place, with no voltage applied, and
without any immediate indication until serious battery or other electrical
equipment damage has occurred.

Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] combiner question [message #167757 is a reply to message #167748] Fri, 27 April 2012 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Gary Casey wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 11:09

I suppose I'm being simplistic, and I know I'm being cheap, but I was also worried about having the alternator output and voltage sense taps being on opposite sides of a diode.  So I just threw away the diode and hard-wired the engine side together.  I use the standard interconnect contactor to join the engine and coach batteries together, switched from the dash.  I have a voltmeter that I can switch from the engine battery to the coach battery and I have a warning light to tell me the interconnect is on.  I just turn on the interconnect after starting to charge the coach.  Simple and foolproof - well, proof from all the fools except me.
Gary

Gary,

What you have is the same as was standard in the coaches before 75MY. I often use the boost switch to charge the engine battery from the house converter. I do this a lot when running the suspension pump.

That is just one of the things on my startup check.

I have lots of manual systems that could also be automatic. I have been an operating engineer nearly all my life, and I have no problem with this. This cause a small problem for any other operator, like my children or friends.

Just once someone will leave that switch in the wrong position.

Did anybody else ever feel the bike stumble and reach down to the fuel valve only to fine that it was still set to reserve?

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] combiner question [message #167764 is a reply to message #167748] Fri, 27 April 2012 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""I suppose I'm being simplistic, and I know I'm being cheap, but I was also worried about having the alternator output and voltage sense taps being on opposite sides of a diode. So I just threw away the diode and hard-wired the engine side together. I use the standard interconnect contactor to join the engine and coach batteries together, switched from the dash. I have a voltmeter that I can switch from the engine battery to the coach battery and I have a warning light to tell me the interconnect is on. I just turn on the interconnect after starting to charge the coach. Simple and foolproof - well, proof from all the fools except me.
""

Gary, I do something similar to that. I pulled out my isolator and use a solenoid that is actuated by the run side of the ignition switch so that both circuits are connected when running and not connected when off. If anyone does this, you need to find the terminal that is not hot while cranking.


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Re: [GMCnet] combiner question [message #168002 is a reply to message #167757] Sun, 29 April 2012 20:16 Go to previous message
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Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 09:22

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Just once someone will leave that switch in the wrong position.

Did anybody else ever feel the bike stumble and reach down to the fuel valve only to fine that it was still set to reserve?


Yep,

Happened while I was out running a cop. Shocked

Did I mention that I wasn't very smart in those days?

(Still managed not to get caught!)


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