| Re: [GMCnet] What's the fatal flaw with CNG? [message #166922] |
Fri, 20 April 2012 08:59  |
Basheik
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Jeremy
Obviously you don't have a son who is an Owner Operator of a
Freightliner ! I do and he just had a rebuild costing $13 000. Now you would
have him convert to CNG ? Not all commercial trucks are owned by large
Corporations. Mandate? Hello government, goodbye economics.
AndyM, W PA
77 and 75 PBs
In a message dated 4/20/2012 9:37:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jtknezek@hotmail.com writes:
hertfordnc wrote on Fri, 20 April 2012 09:24
> So, there is no fatal flaw? It sounds like it's just a matter of time.
>
> It's a viable fuel for gas and deisel and when the economy recovers gas
prices will continue to go up and investors may show up to populate the
andscape with stations.
>
> It actually seems more inevitable than hybrid or electric cars.
Perhaps. But you are missing a point. CNG is still a dino fuel and,
therefore, at best a sidestep to eventual scarcity issues. I'm not much for peak
oil theory, but I do believe we have tapped the vast majority of "easy" or
"inexpensive" sources of oil.
The same thing would eventually happen with CNG. So the drive to renewable
energy sources is inevitable if currently expensive and inefficient versus
dino sources. We can postpone, but not put off, the inevitable.
I'm in my early 30s and it would be very easy to say lets not make hard
choices in my generation because we don't need to. But I'd prefer to keep
plugging away at long term solutions, even if they are currently inefficient,
and help sacrifice a little bit for my eventual grandkids future.
That being said, I do believe in part of Boone Pickens' plan. I think we
could mandate a 10 or 15 year switch of interstate commercial trucks to CNG.
Guarantee the big truck stops the income and they are mostly major chains
these days and could raise the money to do the investment. Probably ease
diesel prices a bit and burn a little cleaner on the highways.
--
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] What's the fatal flaw with CNG? [message #166924 is a reply to message #166922] |
Fri, 20 April 2012 09:21  |
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On Apr 20, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Basheik@aol.com wrote:
> Jeremy
> Obviously you don't have a son who is an Owner Operator of a
> Freightliner ! I do and he just had a rebuild costing $13 000. Now you would
> have him convert to CNG ? Not all commercial trucks are owned by large
> Corporations. Mandate? Hello government, goodbye economics.
>
> AndyM, W PA
> 77 and 75 PBs
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/20/2012 9:37:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jtknezek@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> hertfordnc wrote on Fri, 20 April 2012 09:24
>> So, there is no fatal flaw? It sounds like it's just a matter of time.
>>
>> It's a viable fuel for gas and deisel and when the economy recovers gas
> prices will continue to go up and investors may show up to populate the
> andscape with stations.
>>
>> It actually seems more inevitable than hybrid or electric cars.
>
>
> Perhaps. But you are missing a point. CNG is still a dino fuel and,
> therefore, at best a sidestep to eventual scarcity issues. I'm not much for peak
> oil theory, but I do believe we have tapped the vast majority of "easy" or
> "inexpensive" sources of oil.
>
> The same thing would eventually happen with CNG. So the drive to renewable
> energy sources is inevitable if currently expensive and inefficient versus
> dino sources. We can postpone, but not put off, the inevitable.
>
> I'm in my early 30s and it would be very easy to say lets not make hard
> choices in my generation because we don't need to. But I'd prefer to keep
> plugging away at long term solutions, even if they are currently inefficient,
> and help sacrifice a little bit for my eventual grandkids future.
>
> That being said, I do believe in part of Boone Pickens' plan. I think we
> could mandate a 10 or 15 year switch of interstate commercial trucks to CNG.
> Guarantee the big truck stops the income and they are mostly major chains
> these days and could raise the money to do the investment. Probably ease
> diesel prices a bit and burn a little cleaner on the highways.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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