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Re: [GMCnet] best glue for wall and ceiling panels ?? [message #166105] Thu, 12 April 2012 08:53 Go to next message
Basheik is currently offline  Basheik   United States
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Steve
I guess I missed your earlier posts and I'm wondering if you are
planning to put fabric over the existing finished ceiling panels ? If so,
are your existing panels in solid (firm) enough condition to support the
new fabric ? My ceiling fabric has delaminated from the panels and I doubt
if stripped, the underneath material would be in a condition to be
re-covered. Do you have pictures of yours ?
There have been several posts on replacing the ceiling panels but
as I remember they all completely replaced the total panels. If just
reapplying the fabric can be done, it would save a lot of work and material.
Would like to hear how it works out.

AndyM W PA
75 and 77 PB's



In a message dated 4/12/2012 1:56:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
zzdebz@yahoo.com writes:



Hello,

Yep you are right, it is available in 1 gallon cans, found some here also.

http://www.yourautotrim.com/noname37.html

I really wanted to avoid having to buy a spray gun, and borrow an air
compressor :d

But looks like for the sake of a lasting job, it may have to be done that
way..

We are putting fabric, on the wall panels and ceiling panels, just wanted
to find the solution that would not peel off.


cheers and beers :)
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Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
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Re: [GMCnet] best glue for wall and ceiling panels ?? [message #166111 is a reply to message #166105] Thu, 12 April 2012 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Andy,

Not sure this is what you mean -- but John Harper did an album on restoring the headliner. He has other albums on the headliner as well...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3799

Dennis

Basheik wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 08:53

Steve
I guess I missed your earlier posts and I'm wondering if you are
planning to put fabric over the existing finished ceiling panels ? If so,
are your existing panels in solid (firm) enough condition to support the
new fabric ? My ceiling fabric has delaminated from the panels and I doubt
if stripped, the underneath material would be in a condition to be
re-covered. Do you have pictures of yours ?
There have been several posts on replacing the ceiling panels but
as I remember they all completely replaced the total panels. If just
reapplying the fabric can be done, it would save a lot of work and material.
Would like to hear how it works out.

AndyM W PA
75 and 77 PB's



In a message dated 4/12/2012 1:56:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
zzdebz@yahoo.com writes:



Hello,

Yep you are right, it is available in 1 gallon cans, found some here also.

http://www.yourautotrim.com/noname37.html

I really wanted to avoid having to buy a spray gun, and borrow an air
compressor Very Happy

But looks like for the sake of a lasting job, it may have to be done that
way..

We are putting fabric, on the wall panels and ceiling panels, just wanted
to find the solution that would not peel off.


cheers and beers Smile
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Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] best glue for wall and ceiling panels ?? [message #166120 is a reply to message #166111] Thu, 12 April 2012 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
midlf is currently offline  midlf   United States
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Dennis S wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 09:12

Andy,

Not sure this is what you mean -- but John Harper did an album on restoring the headliner. He has other albums on the headliner as well...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3799

Dennis




Be aware this is another area of significant difference between early and late GMC's. Later ones have the "snake bite" vinyl over a thin foam laminated to the ceiling fiber board. The foam disintegrates and the vinyl droops as shown in the referenced photo album. Earlier GMC's have a surface treatment on the fiber board that does not include a foam layer or itsy bitsy holes in the vinyl. I'm not sure of when the change was made but suspect it was part of the major changes between '74 and '75.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] best glue for wall and ceiling panels ?? [message #166122 is a reply to message #166120] Thu, 12 April 2012 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve,

I have always thought the change to vinyl padding came whem smaller ceiling panels were introduced. The early coaches had the "one big piece" ceiling in the main living area.
What type of ceiling is/was in your 75 transmode?

Dennis

midlf wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 10:56

Dennis S wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 09:12

Andy,

Not sure this is what you mean -- but John Harper did an album on restoring the headliner. He has other albums on the headliner as well...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3799

Dennis




Be aware this is another area of significant difference between early and late GMC's. Later ones have the "snake bite" vinyl over a thin foam laminated to the ceiling fiber board. The foam disintegrates and the vinyl droops as shown in the referenced photo album. Earlier GMC's have a surface treatment on the fiber board that does not include a foam layer or itsy bitsy holes in the vinyl. I'm not sure of when the change was made but suspect it was part of the major changes between '74 and '75.



Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] best glue for wall and ceiling panels ?? [message #166123 is a reply to message #166122] Thu, 12 April 2012 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dennis S wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 11:21

Steve,

I have always thought the change to vinyl padding came when smaller ceiling panels were introduced. The early coaches had the "one big piece" ceiling in the main living area.
What type of ceiling is/was in your 75 transmode?

Dennis




The transmode has a complete custom interior by the upfitter to it's use as a mobile sales & product display facility. The ceiling is 1/2" plywood covered with chrome laminate (Formica or Wilsonart). And that laminate was applied AFTER the plywood was installed on the ceiling, hiding the multitude of screws used to mount the plywood. I can guarantee you that ceiling WILL NOT sag.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] best glue for wall and ceiling panels ?? [message #166182 is a reply to message #166120] Thu, 12 April 2012 21:36 Go to previous message
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midlf wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 11:56

Dennis S wrote on Thu, 12 April 2012 09:12

Andy,

Not sure this is what you mean -- but John Harper did an album on restoring the headliner. He has other albums on the headliner as well...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3799

Dennis




Be aware this is another area of significant difference between early and late GMC's. Later ones have the "snake bite" vinyl over a thin foam laminated to the ceiling fiber board. The foam disintegrates and the vinyl droops as shown in the referenced photo album. Earlier GMC's have a surface treatment on the fiber board that does not include a foam layer or itsy bitsy holes in the vinyl. I'm not sure of when the change was made but suspect it was part of the major changes between '74 and '75.



Dennis,

The change was in 1975. My 1974 has the white fiber board and my friends 1975 has the "snake bight" on the ceiling.



Gene Dotson
74 Canyonlands
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