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top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165400] Wed, 04 April 2012 22:48 Go to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello,

What is the top price for a carb off a GMC motorhome engine.
Just wondering what sort of money you might pay for one ???

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165408 is a reply to message #165400] Thu, 05 April 2012 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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For me, $100.
But my experience (with three of them so far) is that the bodies are
almost all warped.

Yet to find my perfect Q-Jet core.

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR

>
> Hello,
>
> What is the top price for a carb off a GMC motorhome engine.
> Just wondering what sort of money you might pay for one ???
>
> cheers and beers

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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165420 is a reply to message #165408] Thu, 05 April 2012 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Almost always due to enthusiastic overtightening of the air cleaner center bolt.  I wonder - how would a thermo-quad do?  Assuming you could adapt it without things hitting the floor.  The non-metallic body does Very Good Things for controlling vapor lock in the carb itself.
 
--johnny
 
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From: Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com>
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For me, $100.
But my experience (with three of them so far) is that the bodies are
almost all warped.

Yet to find my perfect Q-Jet core.

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR

>
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> What is the top price for a carb off a GMC motorhome engine.
> Just wondering what sort of money you might pay for one ???
>
> cheers and beers

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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165436 is a reply to message #165408] Thu, 05 April 2012 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

I was fortunate and paid Michael Bozardt of GEMRECS $75 for the one I sent
to Dick Paterson for a rebuild. I checked it before I sent it as per Dick's
instructions and it wasn't warped.

I have a couple of rebuilt Q-jets (one here and one in Sydney) I found on
eBay over a year or so. IIRC I paid less than $200 each for both of them.
Neither of which is warped or rebuilt by Dick. Last time I checked his going
rate is $390 and AFAIAC is well worth it.

Sorry they are not for sale.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kelvin Dietz

For me, $100.
But my experience (with three of them so far) is that the bodies are
almost all warped.

Yet to find my perfect Q-Jet core.

Kelvin


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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165437 is a reply to message #165420] Thu, 05 April 2012 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Johnny,

According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps
the body.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges


Almost always due to enthusiastic overtightening of the air cleaner center
bolt.  I wonder - how would a thermo-quad do?  Assuming you could adapt it
without things hitting the floor.  The non-metallic body does Very Good
Things for controlling vapor lock in the carb itself.
 
--johnny
 


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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165444 is a reply to message #165437] Thu, 05 April 2012 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What Rob said.
The carb body is zinc. Not known for it's "stability". Over-tighten
the 4 mounting bolts (and the excessive heat from the crossover) and the
airhorn and body just sort of change shape over time.

I find this very annoying...

Kelvin

> Johnny,
>
> According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps
> the body.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnny Bridges
>
>
> Almost always due to enthusiastic overtightening of the air cleaner center
> bolt. I wonder - how would a thermo-quad do? Assuming you could adapt it
> without things hitting the floor. The non-metallic body does Very Good
> Things for controlling vapor lock in the carb itself.
>
> --johnny
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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165483 is a reply to message #165444] Thu, 05 April 2012 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Regarding carb prices, one of the GMC specialists has a NIB never installed 403 carb on their website listed for $700. I can't remember who though.

Les Burt
Montreal



On 2012-04-05, at 11:06 AM, Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:

>
> What Rob said.
> The carb body is zinc. Not known for it's "stability". Over-tighten
> the 4 mounting bolts (and the excessive heat from the crossover) and the
> airhorn and body just sort of change shape over time.
>
> I find this very annoying...
>
> Kelvin
>
>> Johnny,
>>
>> According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps
>> the body.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Johnny Bridges
>>
>>
>> Almost always due to enthusiastic overtightening of the air cleaner center
>> bolt. I wonder - how would a thermo-quad do? Assuming you could adapt it
>> without things hitting the floor. The non-metallic body does Very Good
>> Things for controlling vapor lock in the carb itself.
>>
>> --johnny
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165525 is a reply to message #165437] Fri, 06 April 2012 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Again I has learnt something :)
But watching a couple of guys rack down on the wingnut with pliear and then grumble about sticking throttle plates on factory installs leads me to believe you can yank the center up if you try as well.  All of which points up, when you have steel fasteners on something made of aluminum, you need to pay attention to how you tighten them.
 
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach.

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Johnny,

According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps
the body.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges


Almost always due to enthusiastic overtightening of the air cleaner center
bolt.  I wonder - how would a thermo-quad do?  Assuming you could adapt it
without things hitting the floor.  The non-metallic body does Very Good
Things for controlling vapor lock in the carb itself.
 
--johnny
 


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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165539 is a reply to message #165437] Fri, 06 April 2012 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 09:58

Johnny,

According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps the body.

Regards,
Rob M.

Dick had a picture at Goshen of an unbelievably warped carburetor that had been presented as a core. I asked him if that was real and he was surprised by the question, but assured me that it was a true representation. Until that, I would have assumed it was a doctored image. I guess Dick is not very familiar with digital image processing (like Photoshop).

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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165543 is a reply to message #165539] Fri, 06 April 2012 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 08:41

Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 09:58

Johnny,

According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps the body.

Regards,
Rob M.

Dick had a picture at Goshen of an unbelievably warped carburetor that had been presented as a core. I asked him if that was real and he was surprised by the question, but assured me that it was a true representation. Until that, I would have assumed it was a doctored image. I guess Dick is not very familiar with digital image processing (like Photoshop).

Matt



Is this the picture???

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43755


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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165552 is a reply to message #165543] Fri, 06 April 2012 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Is this the picture???

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43755


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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""

WOW !


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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165553 is a reply to message #165543] Fri, 06 April 2012 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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midlf wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 07:06

Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 08:41

Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 09:58

Johnny,

According to Dick Patterson over torquing the mounting bolts is what warps the body.

Regards,
Rob M.

Dick had a picture at Goshen of an unbelievably warped carburetor that had been presented as a core. I asked him if that was real and he was surprised by the question, but assured me that it was a true representation. Until that, I would have assumed it was a doctored image. I guess Dick is not very familiar with digital image processing (like Photoshop).

Matt



Is this the picture???

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43755





I guess I should stop using my impact wrench to install the carb.


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165564 is a reply to message #165552] Fri, 06 April 2012 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 4/6/2012 9:02 AM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:
> ""Is this the picture???
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43755



Pretty sure that's one of his pics. I know I have a copy of it on my PC.

I've seen three core carbs that are at least that bad. In theory the
airhorn is warped the same and you would think the gasket would fill the
gap just fine. He says there are other issues caused by the warp that
make it unwise to rebuild them.

Kelvin
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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165579 is a reply to message #165564] Fri, 06 April 2012 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:

> On 4/6/2012 9:02 AM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:
> > ""Is this the picture???
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43755
>
>
>
> Pretty sure that's one of his pics. I know I have a copy of it on my PC.
>
> I've seen three core carbs that are at least that bad. In theory the
> airhorn is warped the same and you would think the gasket would fill the
> gap just fine. He says there are other issues caused by the warp that
> make it unwise to rebuild them.
>
> Kelvin
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Re: [GMCnet] top price for motorhome engine Carb ??? [message #165586 is a reply to message #165543] Fri, 06 April 2012 19:53 Go to previous message
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midlf wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 09:06

Is this the picture???

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43755




Dick Patterson sent me some addition pictures. With his permission I have put them in the GMC Photo Archive here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=6056

The first picture in the album, the same one shown above in the quote, is one that Dick P sends out to those inquiring about a carb rebuild. He does this so, if the carb is warped, the individual does not waste shipping charges sending a warped carb to Dick.


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