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[GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164923] Sun, 01 April 2012 17:58 Go to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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I have the printed out the two pages (61 & 62) of the 1976 owner manual
pertaining to towing.

It appears that some VERY specialized equipment is required for safe
towing of one of these coaches.

I suspect a decent towing company would have a spreader bar and some
equivalent of the rubber pad shown in the illustration, BUT the
various spacer block assemblies and wood block are probably special.

Would a dolly arrangement be okay for the front wheels?

Would what they term a "roll-back" be the preferred method?

I had permission to leave the coach at the RV dealer (towables only)
where I nursed it on Friday afternoon, but need to get it SOMEWHERE
before their close of business on Monday.

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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164925 is a reply to message #164923] Sun, 01 April 2012 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Mumert   United States
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Hi

You could use a wheel lift truck or a rollback. If you call for a wheel
lift you will need to let them know the front end weighs between 5000 and
6000 pounds.

Pump up the air bags so the rear doesn't drag.

I have a friend that had his towed from Spokane, WA to Kelowna, BC with a
medium duty International truck so you don't need a great big tandem truck
to do the job.

Dave


> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements
>
> I have the printed out the two pages (61 & 62) of the 1976 owner manual
> pertaining to towing.
>
> It appears that some VERY specialized equipment is required for safe
towing
> of one of these coaches.
>
> I suspect a decent towing company would have a spreader bar and some
> equivalent of the rubber pad shown in the illustration, BUT the various
> spacer block assemblies and wood block are probably special.
>
> Would a dolly arrangement be okay for the front wheels?
>
> Would what they term a "roll-back" be the preferred method?
>
> I had permission to leave the coach at the RV dealer (towables only) where
I
> nursed it on Friday afternoon, but need to get it SOMEWHERE before their
> close of business on Monday.
>


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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164941 is a reply to message #164923] Sun, 01 April 2012 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Mac,

Google shows at least two mobile RV mechanics in Okla City. Might be worth calling them and asking about installing the belts you lost.
I'm surprised the rv dealer where you are parked cannot replace fan belts.

Dennis

k2gkk wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 17:58


I have the printed out the two pages (61 & 62) of the 1976 owner manual
pertaining to towing.

It appears that some VERY specialized equipment is required for safe
towing of one of these coaches.

I suspect a decent towing company would have a spreader bar and some
equivalent of the rubber pad shown in the illustration, BUT the
various spacer block assemblies and wood block are probably special.

Would a dolly arrangement be okay for the front wheels?

Would what they term a "roll-back" be the preferred method?

I had permission to leave the coach at the RV dealer (towables only)
where I nursed it on Friday afternoon, but need to get it SOMEWHERE
before their close of business on Monday.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~~ k2gkk @ hotmail dot com ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164960 is a reply to message #164923] Sun, 01 April 2012 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

Unfortunately the information on towing in the Operators Manuals is about as
relevant as the oil specs.

Go to the Eastern States website and download the article I wrote on towing.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald

I have the printed out the two pages (61 & 62) of the 1976 owner manual
pertaining to towing.

It appears that some VERY specialized equipment is required for safe
towing of one of these coaches.

I suspect a decent towing company would have a spreader bar and some
equivalent of the rubber pad shown in the illustration, BUT the
various spacer block assemblies and wood block are probably special.

Would a dolly arrangement be okay for the front wheels?

Would what they term a "roll-back" be the preferred method?

I had permission to leave the coach at the RV dealer (towables only)
where I nursed it on Friday afternoon, but need to get it SOMEWHERE
before their close of business on Monday.

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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164966 is a reply to message #164960] Sun, 01 April 2012 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Thanks, Rob and others for the info and advice. I have
printed out your "Eastern States" article.

If I can find a mobile tech who will do the belts
tomorrow, I'll do that. Otherwise I'll specify a wheel
lift capable of 6,000 pounds for a front end tow to an
as yet undetermined shop.

On top of all this, I have a cardiologist appointment
in the morning!

Cheers, all and good night!

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~~ k2gkk @ hotmail dot com ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:08:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements
>
> Mac,
>
> Unfortunately the information on towing in the Operators Manuals is about as
> relevant as the oil specs.
>
> Go to the Eastern States website and download the article I wrote on towing.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.

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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164968 is a reply to message #164966] Sun, 01 April 2012 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Mac,

No doubt Rob's instructions mention it -- but be sure to inflate the air bags to near maximum height, if you use a front wheel lift truck..

Good luck -- with coach and cardio..

Dennis

k2gkk wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 21:44


Thanks, Rob and others for the info and advice. I have
printed out your "Eastern States" article.

If I can find a mobile tech who will do the belts
tomorrow, I'll do that. Otherwise I'll specify a wheel
lift capable of 6,000 pounds for a front end tow to an
as yet undetermined shop.

On top of all this, I have a cardiologist appointment
in the morning!

Cheers, all and good night!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~~ k2gkk @ hotmail dot com ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:08:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements
>
> Mac,
>
> Unfortunately the information on towing in the Operators Manuals is about as
> relevant as the oil specs.
>
> Go to the Eastern States website and download the article I wrote on towing.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.

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Dennis S
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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164973 is a reply to message #164966] Sun, 01 April 2012 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 9:44 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks, Rob and others for the info and advice. I have
> printed out your "Eastern States" article.
>
> If I can find a mobile tech who will do the belts
> tomorrow, I'll do that. Otherwise I'll specify a wheel
> lift capable of 6,000 pounds for a front end tow to an
> as yet undetermined shop.
>
I think you will find most GMC 26' motorhomes weigh about 2000 pounds per tire for a front end weight closer to 4000 pounds. If it weighed 6000 pounds on the front it would exceed the rating of the tires.

Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164974 is a reply to message #164925] Sun, 01 April 2012 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Dave -- are you saying 2500 to 3000 pounds per tire? I don't believe it. I think you will find it is closer to 4000 pounds


Emery Stora

On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Dave Mumert <gmcnet@mumert.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> You could use a wheel lift truck or a rollback. If you call for a wheel
> lift you will need to let them know the front end weighs between 5000 and
> 6000 pounds.
>
> Pump up the air bags so the rear doesn't drag.
>
> I have a friend that had his towed from Spokane, WA to Kelowna, BC with a
> medium duty International truck so you don't need a great big tandem truck
> to do the job.
>
> Dave
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements
>>
>> I have the printed out the two pages (61 & 62) of the 1976 owner manual
>> pertaining to towing.
>>
>> It appears that some VERY specialized equipment is required for safe
> towing
>> of one of these coaches.
>>
>> I suspect a decent towing company would have a spreader bar and some
>> equivalent of the rubber pad shown in the illustration, BUT the various
>> spacer block assemblies and wood block are probably special.
>>
>> Would a dolly arrangement be okay for the front wheels?
>>
>> Would what they term a "roll-back" be the preferred method?
>>
>> I had permission to leave the coach at the RV dealer (towables only) where
> I
>> nursed it on Friday afternoon, but need to get it SOMEWHERE before their
>> close of business on Monday.
>>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #164991 is a reply to message #164974] Mon, 02 April 2012 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Pessimistic safety factor???

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~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
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> From: emerystora@mac.com
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:09:13 -0500
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements
>
> Dave -- are you saying 2500 to 3000 pounds per tire? I don't believe it. I think you will find it is closer to 4000 pounds
>
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Dave Mumert <gmcnet@mumert.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > You could use a wheel lift truck or a rollback. If you call for a wheel
> > lift you will need to let them know the front end weighs between 5000 and
> > 6000 pounds.
> >
> > Pump up the air bags so the rear doesn't drag.
> >
> > I have a friend that had his towed from Spokane, WA to Kelowna, BC with a
> > medium duty International truck so you don't need a great big tandem truck
> > to do the job.
> >
> > Dave

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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #165000 is a reply to message #164973] Mon, 02 April 2012 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Emery,

I just re-read the towing document and I have absolutely NO idea where the
hell I got; "14. Confirm with the tow vehicle driver that the tow vehicle
has at least 8,000 lbs. capacity."

Byron, when you get time would you please revise that step to read:

"14. Confirm with the tow vehicle driver that the tow vehicle has the
capacity to lift a vehicle with a Front Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
of 5000 pounds and a GVWR of 13,000 pounds."

Those figures are slighty more than the FRONT GVWR 4,200 and GVWR 12,500 as
noted in the Operators Manuals.

Regards,
Rob M.


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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Emery Stora
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements

I think you will find most GMC 26' motorhomes weigh about 2000 pounds per
tire for a front end weight closer to 4000 pounds. If it weighed 6000 pounds
on the front it would exceed the rating of the tires.

Emery Stora


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Re: [GMCnet] Towing Requirements [message #165106 is a reply to message #165000] Mon, 02 April 2012 22:07 Go to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jeez,

I just re-read this message and I screwed up the revision! DAMN!

It should read:

"14. Confirm with the tow vehicle driver that the tow vehicle has the
capacity to lift a vehicle with a front Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
of 5000 pounds and tow a GVWR of 13,000 pounds."

I forgot "tow."

Regards,
Rob M.


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