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[GMCnet] More info on belts [message #164781] Sat, 31 March 2012 13:43 Go to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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I've been shopping in two towns just east of Oklahoma
City with the following results. I didn't go everywhere,
but hit NAPA, Advance Auto, and O'Reilly's.

NAPA has ONLY Gates belts, named and "economy" version.
All measured are 10 or less mm in width. Judging from
this I believe that NAPA can and should be crossed off
the GMCMI Parts Interchange Index until such time as
evidence proves that acceptable belts were available
from NAPA.

Advance Auto had one in stock, but price was about $16
for one of them and $12 for another. They were also on
the narrow side and one would have to be ordered sight
unseen with a minimum delivery of 5 days.

Next stop was O'Reilly's, probably central US only since
I think they are headquartered somewhere in Missouri.

I measured them at home with a Stanley caliper. I have
shown the "inch" measurements and metric conversions.

7450 by MasterPro was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.

7570 by Armor Mark was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.

7619 by Armor Mark was measured at 55/128" or - 10.9 mm.

I had a 10/11 mm double open end wrench with me. None
of the above belts would fit into the 10 mm end and
there is just a little extra space space when using
the 11 mm end as a gauge. I hope they will be okay.

None of the places I went to had knowledge of a source
for Goodyear belts.

These three cost me $4.92 each with a "list" of $8.46.
O'Reilly's also gives a discount for military, and I
don't know exactly what the two discounts are. In any
event, it's a pretty good price!
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Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts [message #164783 is a reply to message #164781] Sat, 31 March 2012 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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In all honesty I've only used the NAPA belts for AC as well as all the other
drives with no issues. Our town probably has the smallest NAPA store in all
the US and they stock what I need. Because of the length of the AC belt and
the "shock" loading it gets I always carry a spare plus I give it a quick
check everytime I raise the hatch. Don't expect the AC belt to have as long
of life as the others. Check it frequently. I don't think it makes all that
much difference in the width. It's the angle that is critical. If the belt
is a little narrow I'm not sure if it matters. I also use a little bit of
belt "dressing" from time to time. It's the slip that kills belts. If the
pulleys are glazed it makes no difference how wide the belt is.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] More info on belts


>
> I've been shopping in two towns just east of Oklahoma
> City with the following results. I didn't go everywhere,
> but hit NAPA, Advance Auto, and O'Reilly's.
>
> NAPA has ONLY Gates belts, named and "economy" version.
> All measured are 10 or less mm in width. Judging from
> ths I believe that NAPA can and should be crossed off
> the GMCMI Parts Interchange Index until such time as
> evidence proves that acceptable belts were available
> from NAPA.
>
> Advance Auto had one in stock, but price was about $16
> for one of them and $12 for another. They were also on
> the narrow side and one would have to be ordered sight
> unseen with a minimum delivery of 5 days.
>
> Next stop was O'Reilly's, probably central US only since
> I think they are headquartered somewhere in Missouri.
>
> I measured them at home with a Stanley caliper. I have
> shown the "inch" measurements and metric conversions.
>
> 7450 by MasterPro was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.
>
> 7570 by Armor Mark was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.
>
> 7619 by Armor Mark was measured at 55/128" or - 10.9 mm.
>
> I had a 10/11 mm double open end wrench with me. None
> of the above belts would fit into the 10 mm end and
> there is just a little extra space space when using
> the 11 mm end as a gauge. I hope they will be okay.
>
> None of the places I went to had knowledge of a source
> for Goodyear belts.
>
> These three cost me $4.92 each with a "list" of $8.46.
> O'Reilly's also gives a discount for military, and I
> don't know exactly what the two discounts are. In any
> event, it's a pretty good price!
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Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts [message #164802 is a reply to message #164781] Sat, 31 March 2012 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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k2gkk wrote on Sat, 31 March 2012 12:43


I've been shopping in two towns just east of Oklahoma
City with the following results. I didn't go everywhere,
but hit NAPA, Advance Auto, and O'Reilly's.

NAPA has ONLY Gates belts, named and "economy" version.
All measured are 10 or less mm in width. Judging from
this I believe that NAPA can and should be crossed off
the GMCMI Parts Interchange Index until such time as
evidence proves that acceptable belts were available
from NAPA.

Advance Auto had one in stock, but price was about $16
for one of them and $12 for another. They were also on
the narrow side and one would have to be ordered sight
unseen with a minimum delivery of 5 days.

Next stop was O'Reilly's, probably central US only since
I think they are headquartered somewhere in Missouri.

I measured them at home with a Stanley caliper. I have
shown the "inch" measurements and metric conversions.

7450 by MasterPro was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.

7570 by Armor Mark was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.

7619 by Armor Mark was measured at 55/128" or - 10.9 mm.

I had a 10/11 mm double open end wrench with me. None
of the above belts would fit into the 10 mm end and
there is just a little extra space space when using
the 11 mm end as a gauge. I hope they will be okay.

None of the places I went to had knowledge of a source
for Goodyear belts.

These three cost me $4.92 each with a "list" of $8.46.
O'Reilly's also gives a discount for military, and I
don't know exactly what the two discounts are. In any
event, it's a pretty good price!
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You'll be fine with those.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts [message #164808 is a reply to message #164802] Sat, 31 March 2012 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Thanks, Bob.

By the way, the MasterPro belt came from Mexico
and the Armor Mark belts were made in Korea.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:02:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts
>
>
>
> k2gkk wrote on Sat, 31 March 2012 12:43
> > I've been shopping in two towns just east of Oklahoma
> > City with the following results. I didn't go everywhere,
> > but hit NAPA, Advance Auto, and O'Reilly's.
> >
> > NAPA has ONLY Gates belts, named and "economy" version.
> > All measured are 10 or less mm in width. Judging from
> > this I believe that NAPA can and should be crossed off
> > the GMCMI Parts Interchange Index until such time as
> > evidence proves that acceptable belts were available
> > from NAPA.
> >
> > Advance Auto had one in stock, but price was about $16
> > for one of them and $12 for another. They were also on
> > the narrow side and one would have to be ordered sight
> > unseen with a minimum delivery of 5 days.
> >
> > Next stop was O'Reilly's, probably central US only since
> > I think they are headquartered somewhere in Missouri.
> >
> > I measured them at home with a Stanley caliper. I have
> > shown the "inch" measurements and metric conversions.
> >
> > 7450 by MasterPro was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.
> >
> > 7570 by Armor Mark was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.
> >
> > 7619 by Armor Mark was measured at 55/128" or - 10.9 mm.
> >
> > I had a 10/11 mm double open end wrench with me. None
> > of the above belts would fit into the 10 mm end and
> > there is just a little extra space space when using
> > the 11 mm end as a gauge. I hope they will be okay.
> >
> > None of the places I went to had knowledge of a source
> > for Goodyear belts.
> >
> > These three cost me $4.92 each with a "list" of $8.46.
> > O'Reilly's also gives a discount for military, and I
> > don't know exactly what the two discounts are. In any
> > event, it's a pretty good price!
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> You'll be fine with those.
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts [message #164817 is a reply to message #164783] Sat, 31 March 2012 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hnielsen2 is currently offline  hnielsen2   United States
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Same here on the belts.
Howard
Alpine CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Worobec" <gtw5@earthlink.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:21
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts


> In all honesty I've only used the NAPA belts for AC as well as all the
> other
> drives with no issues. Our town probably has the smallest NAPA store in
> all
> the US and they stock what I need. Because of the length of the AC belt
> and
> the "shock" loading it gets I always carry a spare plus I give it a quick
> check everytime I raise the hatch. Don't expect the AC belt to have as
> long
> of life as the others. Check it frequently. I don't think it makes all
> that
> much difference in the width. It's the angle that is critical. If the belt
> is a little narrow I'm not sure if it matters. I also use a little bit of
> belt "dressing" from time to time. It's the slip that kills belts. If the
> pulleys are glazed it makes no difference how wide the belt is.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:43 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] More info on belts
>
>
>>
>> I've been shopping in two towns just east of Oklahoma
>> City with the following results. I didn't go everywhere,
>> but hit NAPA, Advance Auto, and O'Reilly's.
>>
>> NAPA has ONLY Gates belts, named and "economy" version.
>> All measured are 10 or less mm in width. Judging from
>> ths I believe that NAPA can and should be crossed off
>> the GMCMI Parts Interchange Index until such time as
>> evidence proves that acceptable belts were available
>> from NAPA.
>>
>> Advance Auto had one in stock, but price was about $16
>> for one of them and $12 for another. They were also on
>> the narrow side and one would have to be ordered sight
>> unseen with a minimum delivery of 5 days.
>>
>> Next stop was O'Reilly's, probably central US only since
>> I think they are headquartered somewhere in Missouri.
>>
>> I measured them at home with a Stanley caliper. I have
>> shown the "inch" measurements and metric conversions.
>>
>> 7450 by MasterPro was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.
>>
>> 7570 by Armor Mark was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.
>>
>> 7619 by Armor Mark was measured at 55/128" or - 10.9 mm.
>>
>> I had a 10/11 mm double open end wrench with me. None
>> of the above belts would fit into the 10 mm end and
>> there is just a little extra space space when using
>> the 11 mm end as a gauge. I hope they will be okay.
>>
>> None of the places I went to had knowledge of a source
>> for Goodyear belts.
>>
>> These three cost me $4.92 each with a "list" of $8.46.
>> O'Reilly's also gives a discount for military, and I
>> don't know exactly what the two discounts are. In any
>> event, it's a pretty good price!
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] More info on belts [message #164867 is a reply to message #164781] Sun, 01 April 2012 08:02 Go to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

Good on yah, Mate!

I have come to the conclusion about belts that the manufacturers keep
changing them which causes good info to turn into mis-info.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald

I've been shopping in two towns just east of Oklahoma
City with the following results. I didn't go everywhere,
but hit NAPA, Advance Auto, and O'Reilly's.

NAPA has ONLY Gates belts, named and "economy" version.
All measured are 10 or less mm in width. Judging from
this I believe that NAPA can and should be crossed off
the GMCMI Parts Interchange Index until such time as
evidence proves that acceptable belts were available
from NAPA.

Advance Auto had one in stock, but price was about $16
for one of them and $12 for another. They were also on
the narrow side and one would have to be ordered sight
unseen with a minimum delivery of 5 days.

Next stop was O'Reilly's, probably central US only since
I think they are headquartered somewhere in Missouri.

I measured them at home with a Stanley caliper. I have
shown the "inch" measurements and metric conversions.

7450 by MasterPro was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.

7570 by Armor Mark was measured at 27/64" or 10.7 mm.

7619 by Armor Mark was measured at 55/128" or - 10.9 mm.

I had a 10/11 mm double open end wrench with me. None
of the above belts would fit into the 10 mm end and
there is just a little extra space space when using
the 11 mm end as a gauge. I hope they will be okay.

None of the places I went to had knowledge of a source
for Goodyear belts.

These three cost me $4.92 each with a "list" of $8.46.
O'Reilly's also gives a discount for military, and I
don't know exactly what the two discounts are. In any
event, it's a pretty good price!
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