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RadioActiveGMC is currently offline  RadioActiveGMC   United States
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Does anyone sell the 3 lamp fixtures for our coach bathrooms? I'd really like new ones.

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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164424 is a reply to message #164417] Wed, 28 March 2012 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The oem model has long been out of production.

If you want incandescent lamps, there are 2 bulb models and I think I saw a 3 bulb model, it was an rv place that sold accessories.

I used a florescent THINLITE to put over the hole. I had to use some decorative wood to completely cover the hole because the new lights are not as long as the OEM lights.

I put an LED light inside each fixture and wired to the floor lights so they come on when the floor lights are on....and seem plenty of light at night, and little power use.

just a thought

BTW, how is the roof paint doing as far as keeping the heat out???


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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164443 is a reply to message #164417] Wed, 28 March 2012 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was thinking about going with wood, but man I wish I could just find the fixtures it would be a lot easier Sad

Painting made a BIG difference. Yesterday I was on the roof in the AM working on wiring my solar array. The heat being reflected was crazy. After the roof paint, then the coolaroo on the windows. The windows are like a oven. While the coolaroo doesn't reflect all the heat it cuts it back A LOT more then just tint. I have no scientific way of checking but I'd say at least 80% Our temps are going to be in the upper 80s maybe 90 this week. So I'll be able to truly find out. Lastly the insulation helped. Honestly I don't think insulation helps as much as the paint/coolaroo combo but it fits right in for the total effect.

I cut small metal pieces and epoxied them on the body of my GMC. Then I cut armafoil sheets the size of the outside of the RV that I want to reflect heat. Then I use rare earth magnets to attach the armafoil to the sides of the RV. That works SUPER as well! "Gettin There" is more like a "Gettin to become a space ship"


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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164444 is a reply to message #164443] Wed, 28 March 2012 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found some nice fixtures at one of the RV outlets in Elkhart. Large enough to cover the holes, plenty bright and cheap.

Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164451 is a reply to message #164443] Wed, 28 March 2012 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Coolerooski blocks about 80% of the suns heat. You have to look at how the material is designed and what it was intended for..

It was made to be supported by poles, like an awning, so it had a lot of air movement to breathe and move the heat away.
One of my experiments held the cooleroo away from the glas about 3 inches, this allowed the air to take the heat up with the air movement. It seemed to work quite well, the windows were much cooler.
You get great benefit even if the coolerooski is laying on the glass but the glass may warm a bit because the heat that gets through has no where to go... not a lot and maybe not a bad thing.....
Another thing I tried was to attach the top of the coolerooski to the GMC gutter and raised the bottom about 45 degrees on poles, this imitated an awning, gave a bit of a view and allowed air flow.... Lots of ideas out there Mr Rad..

If you have a thermometer handy, just put one inside the coach, out of the sun and compare the temperature difference inside outside.... might mention if the vents are open or closed, windows open or closed..

You know, MOST of the GMC community has been following your "cool down" ambitions, and are curious how your results turned out... lolol

That's a GMC for ya..


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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164533 is a reply to message #164417] Wed, 28 March 2012 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The coolaroo I have is snap shape. NOT the one designed for poles. Its designed to be snapped on windows/sun lights on houses using custom made snaps. Coolaroo makes a lot of products, but the snap shade is a 94 % reflect, if I recall correctly. It may be 90, but its not under that. Their other products are 80%+

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PS: Cooling a GMC is cake as long as you don't take public (forum) opinion seriously lol. Painting the roof with white ceramic paint not just on the flat top but down to the sides helped TONS (and Not a single person has said it looked bad that has seen it) That I would of ton a ton sooner if I knew how much it would of helped. Adding 3-5 layers of bubble insulation for the ceiling worked super (plus a full layer of armafoil! Expansion foam made the walls a ton cooler and I filled them up to the rim!
The insulation project is kinda fun. The only negative has been I'm not sure how to make a new ceiling as of yet...I may have to use 1/8" wood sheets but I don't know. I'd pay someone to help me there as I hate measuring and cutting. But looks like I may have to learn.
Epoxy little pieces of metal on the body to be able to make armafoil reflect shields for the sides worked terrific 2! If I ruin a armafoil sheet simply can cut another piece and wala. I can make them till the cows come home in under 30 seconds.


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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164564 is a reply to message #164534] Thu, 29 March 2012 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm thinking of doing cedar closet strips for the ceiling. Someone else
has done it and I think it looks great. Very captain's cabin-like on the
good ship GMC.

Can you clarify what you are doing with the epoxy, little pieces of
metal and the Armafoil? TIA

Dan in NC
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On 3/29/2012 12:44 AM, Michael wrote:
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> PS: Cooling a GMC is cake as long as you don't take public (forum) opinion seriously lol. Painting the roof with white ceramic paint not just on the flat top but down to the sides helped TONS (and Not a single person has said it looked bad that has seen it) That I would of ton a ton sooner if I knew how much it would of helped. Adding 3-5 layers of bubble insulation for the ceiling worked super (plus a full layer of armafoil! Expansion foam made the walls a ton cooler and I filled them up to the rim!
> The insulation project is kinda fun. The only negative has been I'm not sure how to make a new ceiling as of yet...I may have to use 1/8" wood sheets but I don't know. I'd pay someone to help me there as I hate measuring and cutting. But looks like I may have to learn.
> Epoxy little pieces of metal on the body to be able to make armafoil reflect shields for the sides worked terrific 2! If I ruin a armafoil sheet simply can cut another piece and wala. I can make them till the cows come home in under 30 seconds.
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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164567 is a reply to message #164417] Thu, 29 March 2012 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wish I had a fraction of the talent it took to do that beautiful cedar ceiling. It looks terrific.

I epoxied little painted metal tabs to the out side of my coach. Since the belt line up is black it sucks in the heat. Then I cut a sheet of armafoil the same size as the black painted area I'd like to cover. I use rare earth magnets to hold the armafoil in place. Technically I could drive with it but I won't. When its really hot, Ill just store the armafoil sheets. The nice thing about the armafoil is 1000sf roll if like $125 So I can make a ton of sheets out of it. I used armafoil to cover my airbags. I used it to cover my MaxxFan as well. I'll use it to cover my front windows when camping using magnets on both sides of it however without hte metal tabs. (magnet on each side of the glass)


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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164572 is a reply to message #164567] Thu, 29 March 2012 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, I see. I was thinking that you had put the Armafoil on the ribs
inside the coach. Thanks for the info!

Dan in NC
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On 3/29/2012 11:24 AM, Michael wrote:
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> I wish I had a fraction of the talent it took to do that beautiful cedar ceiling. It looks terrific.
>
> I epoxied little painted metal tabs to the out side of my coach. Since the belt line up is black it sucks in the heat. Then I cut a sheet of armafoil the same size as the black painted area I'd like to cover. I use rare earth magnets to hold the armafoil in place. Technically I could drive with it but I won't. When its really hot, Ill just store the armafoil sheets. The nice thing about the armafoil is 1000sf roll if like $125 So I can make a ton of sheets out of it. I used armafoil to cover my airbags. I used it to cover my MaxxFan as well. I'll use it to cover my front windows when camping using magnets on both sides of it however without hte metal tabs. (magnet on each side of the glass)
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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164576 is a reply to message #164417] Thu, 29 March 2012 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh I did. If I'm thinking I know what your asking. I installed layers of bubble insulation. THEN I covered my entire ceiling with a layer of armafoil to complete the barrier. I haven't yet figured out how to finish the last layer the actual ceiling yet, but I did cover it all in armafoil. Thats the biggest reason I bought the roll.

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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164600 is a reply to message #164576] Thu, 29 March 2012 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have not done the ceiling project but I have read many episodes of others doing it and I saw how my PO did it.

My PO used 1/8 inch ply and ran it across the ribs from side to side. He did not paint it, he covered it with cloth. where the panels meet, he covered with a 2" wide strip of wood, screwed into the frame.

My bus had fiber glas panels that spanned from side to side pretty much the same way my po did the ceiling in my coach. Sheet metal would work too and painted would look great.

I have always thought if sound is a problem, acoustic tiles would work also. They just glue right up there and would look interesting. Even I could do that.

If you ran a shallow channel maybe 3-4 " wide down the center, you can use that channel for the Air con duct, attach the LED strip to the side of the channel for lighting...... Just my mind going off but I have seen a duct like that made in other vehicles....

My thoughts...

Thanks for the review of the roof coating, is it flat like paint or does it look like it was rolled???
You have my interest...


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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164616 is a reply to message #164534] Thu, 29 March 2012 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or if you don't intend to use it anywhere the humidity goes beyond 75%.

LOL too! ;-)

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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164671 is a reply to message #164616] Thu, 29 March 2012 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 29 March 2012 16:23

Or if you don't intend to use it anywhere the humidity goes beyond 75%.

LOL too! Wink

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I can't believe my wife ever survived childhood in AZ and they only had a swamp cooler. Maybe it was good for her skin since she is about as beautiful as woman get!

Anyway getting back to reality, the paint simply looks like a rough rolled ultra white paint. I climb up on my roof so much however I need to clean it a bit already. I've been up there a ton working on my solar panels lately. (First day I tested all 4 panels out at once). From the ground its barely noticeable. Unless your looking specifically for it nobody has ever commented on it. One of my friends dads liked it so much he borrowed the remaining paint to use on his. The 5 gallon pail says it covers much different then reality. I used A LOT. Super thick, I recoated it at least 4 times. And had about 2.5 gal left, and that was spilling a bit in one area and coating that spot
SUPER thick!


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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164687 is a reply to message #164671] Thu, 29 March 2012 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr Rad
Is the roof coating an actual paint??? you said you need to clean it because you were up on the roof a lot... is it rubbery?? I may go your way if it is a paint and the looks are good...
thanks for commenting/.


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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164688 is a reply to message #164687] Thu, 29 March 2012 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry C wrote on Thu, 29 March 2012 23:14

Mr Rad
Is the roof coating an actual paint??? you said you need to clean it because you were up on the roof a lot... is it rubbery?? I may go your way if it is a paint and the looks are good...
thanks for commenting/.


The Paint is Black Jack Ceramic Paint. It expands and contracts greatly. It reflects 94% if I recall correctly. It just rolls or brushes on and drys a really hard rubber like material. Its about 120.00 if I recall for 5 gals.

I need to wash it, not cause its gross dirty. But my lot is rock/dirt and my shoes scuffed it a bit. But I've walked on it prob 100x since I installed it. I've been working on my Turbo Kool, installed a Maxx Fan, Worked tons on making a frame for my solar panels, installing them, wiring them..... you get the point I've walked on it a zillion times. It cleans EZ and shines right back up.


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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164694 is a reply to message #164688] Fri, 30 March 2012 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does it come in any other color?
.

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>
> Larry C wrote on Thu, 29 March 2012 23:14
>> Mr Rad
>> Is the roof coating an actual paint??? you said you need to clean it
>> because you were up on the roof a lot... is it rubbery?? I may go your
>> way if it is a paint and the looks are good...
>> thanks for commenting/.
>
>
> The Paint is Black Jack Ceramic Paint. It expands and contracts greatly.
> It reflects 94% if I recall correctly. It just rolls or brushes on and
> drys a really hard rubber like material. Its about 120.00 if I recall for
> 5 gals.
>
> I need to wash it, not cause its gross dirty. But my lot is rock/dirt and
> my shoes scuffed it a bit. But I've walked on it prob 100x since I
> installed it. I've been working on my Turbo Kool, installed a Maxx Fan,
> Worked tons on making a frame for my solar panels, installing them, wiring
> them..... you get the point I've walked on it a zillion times. It cleans
> EZ and shines right back up.
>
> --
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Re: Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164708 is a reply to message #164417] Fri, 30 March 2012 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Umm, silver I think (maybe gray). But white has the highest reflection. It drops down fairly well with the other option.

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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #164715 is a reply to message #164688] Fri, 30 March 2012 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is this the stuff?

http://www.gardner-gibson.com/linedetails.aspx?id=87


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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:34:43 -0500
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>
>
>
> Larry C wrote on Thu, 29 March 2012 23:14
> > Mr Rad
> > Is the roof coating an actual paint??? you said you need to clean it because you were up on the roof a lot... is it rubbery?? I may go your way if it is a paint and the looks are good...
> > thanks for commenting/.
>
>
> The Paint is Black Jack Ceramic Paint. It expands and contracts greatly. It reflects 94% if I recall correctly. It just rolls or brushes on and drys a really hard rubber like material. Its about 120.00 if I recall for 5 gals.
>
> I need to wash it, not cause its gross dirty. But my lot is rock/dirt and my shoes scuffed it a bit. But I've walked on it prob 100x since I installed it. I've been working on my Turbo Kool, installed a Maxx Fan, Worked tons on making a frame for my solar panels, installing them, wiring them..... you get the point I've walked on it a zillion times. It cleans EZ and shines right back up.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Bathroom lighting again.... [message #165401 is a reply to message #164576] Wed, 04 April 2012 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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OK, good. How did you attach it on the inside?

Dan in NC
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> Oh I did. If I'm thinking I know what your asking. I installed layers of bubble insulation. THEN I covered my entire ceiling with a layer of armafoil to complete the barrier. I haven't yet figured out how to finish the last layer the actual ceiling yet, but I did cover it all in armafoil. Thats the biggest reason I bought the roll.
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