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Re: [GMCnet] Tight steering [message #164179] Sun, 25 March 2012 20:29 Go to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Try removing the damper and then drive it.

Jwid

Sully
77 royale
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I have asked this question a couple of times in the past: Have never gotten a good response. I'm sure some others must have had this experience.

Over the past few years I have replaced everything in the steering system except the power steering pump and the steering damper.

My coach handles great now and the only complaint I have is that it is somewhat harder to turn than other coaches that I have driven. Harder than I would like. I have driven other coaches that require less effort than a Csdillac. None that I have driven require as much effort to turn as mine.

I can live with it as is but I would prefer to turn with less effort.

Any suggestions????

Thanks!!
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Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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Sully 77 Royale basket case. Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list) Seattle, Wa.
Re: [GMCnet] Tight steering [message #164188 is a reply to message #164179] Sun, 25 March 2012 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Here are my guesses:
1)Something binding or not greased. Do all your parts have fittings and are they greased?
2)Someone over adjusted the steering box.
3)Pump has low output OBTW do the wipers work normally?
4)Too much positive caster? OK never mind that as very unlikely unles you have 4 offset bushings installed.
5)Are you sure the column bearing at the bottom is clean and greased? That one attracts dirt easily.
6) is the ball bearing coupling at the top of the intermediate shaft greased with Synpower as they tend to bind with lesser greases.


John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Tight steering [message #164193 is a reply to message #164179] Sun, 25 March 2012 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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the power steering pump may have a piece of tin foil from a top of a container stopping it up in a hose.



On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:29 PM, sgltrac@gmail.com wrote:

> Try removing the damper and then drive it.
>
> Jwid
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> ------Original Message------
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> Subject: [GMCnet] Tight steering
> Sent: Mar 25, 2012 6:12 PM
>
>
>
> I have asked this question a couple of times in the past: Have never gotten a good response. I'm sure some others must have had this experience.
>
> Over the past few years I have replaced everything in the steering system except the power steering pump and the steering damper.
>
> My coach handles great now and the only complaint I have is that it is somewhat harder to turn than other coaches that I have driven. Harder than I would like. I have driven other coaches that require less effort than a Csdillac. None that I have driven require as much effort to turn as mine.
>
> I can live with it as is but I would prefer to turn with less effort.
>
> Any suggestions????
>
> Thanks!!
> --
> Gene Barrow
> Lake Almanor, Ca.
> 1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Tight steering [message #164222 is a reply to message #164179] Mon, 26 March 2012 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""I have asked this question a couple of times in the past: Have never gotten a good response. I'm sure some others must have had this experience.

Over the past few years I have replaced everything in the steering system except the power steering pump and the steering damper.

My coach handles great now and the only complaint I have is that it is somewhat harder to turn than other coaches that I have driven. Harder than I would like. I have driven other coaches that require less effort than a Csdillac. None that I have driven require as much effort to turn as mine.

I can live with it as is but I would prefer to turn with less effort.

Any suggestions????

Thanks!!
--
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
""

The power steering effort is determined by the spool valve in the gear. They are calibrated in inch pound increments and are available in ranges from at leat 15 to 20 or inch pounds. my guess is that the gear you installed has a spool valve calibrated on the high side. It takes a lot of friction in components "below" the gear to increase effort, but it's possible if something is almost bound up. Another less likely possibility is inadequate pump flow.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Tight steering [message #164249 is a reply to message #164222] Mon, 26 March 2012 13:27 Go to previous message
Bob Raef is currently offline  Bob Raef   United States
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Years ago we use to use about a tablespoon of Shaler Rislone as an additive in tight power steering pumps. You might try it, it won't hurt anything.

Bob Raef, KF5TYA
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