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[GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163882] Thu, 22 March 2012 16:26 Go to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Wow, this could be good for all GMCs let alone other car hobbyists.

http://tinyurl.com/7g5tppv

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Gary and Joanne Worobec
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163883 is a reply to message #163882] Thu, 22 March 2012 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sammy Williams is currently offline  Sammy Williams   United States
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It will never pass.[opinion] Not smogging cuts into the 'revenue
stream' for the state of California... they wont allow that espically
as it makes too much sense to exempt cars older then 30 years of age
from "smog compliance"

Just one of many reasons I left CA and never looked back.

S. Williams
Staying in "smog check free one license tag on the back" Kansas. :D
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163884 is a reply to message #163883] Thu, 22 March 2012 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Sammy,
It will only fail if you do not send in your support and concerns to the
elected reps according to the instructions on the page. How will you feel
when they are one e-mail short of convincing them and it is your e-mail??

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Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA

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> It will never pass.[opinion] Not smogging cuts into the 'revenue
> stream' for the state of California... they wont allow that espically
> as it makes too much sense to exempt cars older then 30 years of age
> from "smog compliance"
>
> Just one of many reasons I left CA and never looked back.
>
> S. Williams
> Staying in "smog check free one license tag on the back" Kansas. :D
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163885 is a reply to message #163884] Thu, 22 March 2012 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sammy Williams is currently offline  Sammy Williams   United States
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As I do not live in California, I have no dog in that fight.

Sammy

Good luck to them though its good news, if it passes into law.
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163888 is a reply to message #163882] Thu, 22 March 2012 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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I sent a note to my State Senator, though I doubt this issue tickles her.

On a sad note my daughter's VW is a 1981 and would still be subject to smog.

Larry Davick

On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:26 PM, "Gary Worobec" <gtw5@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Wow, this could be good for all GMCs let alone other car hobbyists.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7g5tppv
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163891 is a reply to message #163882] Thu, 22 March 2012 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hnielsen2 is currently offline  hnielsen2   United States
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Gary
Saw this in the news letter from SEMA
I thought I sent to you
Howard
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Subject: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA


> Wow, this could be good for all GMCs let alone other car hobbyists.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7g5tppv
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163931 is a reply to message #163885] Fri, 23 March 2012 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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What happens in CA, usually catches up with all the other states.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Sammy Williams <bd5av8r@gmail.com> wrote:

> As I do not live in California, I have no dog in that fight.
>
> Sammy
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> Good luck to them though its good news, if it passes into law.
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163934 is a reply to message #163931] Fri, 23 March 2012 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sammy Williams is currently offline  Sammy Williams   United States
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not always true.(opinion) KS doesn't smog, not worth the effort.

Sammy
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163964 is a reply to message #163931] Fri, 23 March 2012 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What happens in CA, usually catches up with all the other states.

Though California usually is the leader in costly and over done smog testing, here in Illinois I can say, been there, done that.

Our smog testing stations pre 90 ( I think ) used to smog check everything.. I don't know how the lawn mower got by without the test, but SHHHHHHH, don't want to give em any ideas.
Our smog station closed for about a year, they tore it down and completely rebuilt it. Now we were still testing everything with wheels full of air but in different ways. There were rollers in the floor and the car had to run on the rollers and pass. Some of the newer cars could plug into the computer without the roller run and pass that way.

Another make over came and the rollers were retired in the floor. NOW, only cars with the "smart" computer under the hood are tested. I think that would be pre 81 vehicles. BUT, your old vehicle had to test and pass to "WIN" an exemption to the testing system. I am not sure if this is for the life of the vehicle motor or everytime the vehicle changes hands of owners.

When I inquired about the changes, I was told it was all cost related. The older cars take too long, too many people and there are not enough of them on the road to worry about testing anymore... hmmmm

When the rebuild happened and the rollers were put in the floor, it still took too many people and too much equipment to test all the cars coming in.

Now with the antique vehicles or carborated motors out of the picture, there are only 3 lanes open, one person per lane testing.

If you look around you can see where all the old equipment was just cutout, I mean the conduit is CUT, wires hanging and all that left is where the computer sits, a plug to plug into the car and a keyboard for the smog Tech..

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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #163995 is a reply to message #163964] Fri, 23 March 2012 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Larry C <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> What happens in CA, usually catches up with all the other states.
>
> Though California usually is the leader in costly and over done smog
> testing, here in Illinois I can say, been there, done that.
>
> Our smog testing stations pre 90 ( I think ) used to smog check
> everything.. I don't know how the lawn mower got by without the test, but
> SHHHHHHH, don't want to give em any ideas.
> Our smog station closed for about a year, they tore it down and completely
> rebuilt it. Now we were still testing everything with wheels full of air
> but in different ways. There were rollers in the floor and the car had to
> run on the rollers and pass. Some of the newer cars could plug into the
> computer without the roller run and pass that way.
>
> Another make over came and the rollers were retired in the floor. NOW,
> only cars with the "smart" computer under the hood are tested. I think
> that would be pre 81 vehicles. BUT, your old vehicle had to test and pass
> to "WIN" an exemption to the testing system. I am not sure if this is for
> the life of the vehicle motor or everytime the vehicle changes hands of
> owners.
>
> When I inquired about the changes, I was told it was all cost related.
> The older cars take too long, too many people and there are not enough of
> them on the road to worry about testing anymore... hmmmm
>
> When the rebuild happened and the rollers were put in the floor, it still
> took too many people and too much equipment to test all the cars coming in.
>
> Now with the antique vehicles or carborated motors out of the picture,
> there are only 3 lanes open, one person per lane testing.
>
> If you look around you can see where all the old equipment was just
> cutout, I mean the conduit is CUT, wires hanging and all that left is where
> the computer sits, a plug to plug into the car and a keyboard for the smog
> Tech..
>
> Long live Exemption
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #164003 is a reply to message #163995] Fri, 23 March 2012 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
captjack is currently offline  captjack   United States
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Let's hope it passed. I, too, sent a message to my Senator who responded and at least acknowledged the issue I was commenting about without committing either way -- what did I expect?

California smog stations are run by private individuals, not the state, so I don't see how the state loses (or gains) money in either case.


Jack Christensen - K6ROW, '76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet", Sebastopol, CA
Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #164027 is a reply to message #164003] Sat, 24 March 2012 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Minnesota has no emissions testing, no safety testing of any kind.
We did try it back in the 90's but it proved to be expensive and didn't improve the air quality.

So it was all scrapped.



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Re: [GMCnet] SEMA alert for pre 1981 emissions testing in CA [message #164035 is a reply to message #163882] Sat, 24 March 2012 08:53 Go to previous message
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