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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162388 is a reply to message #162384] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 07:10   |
Bob de Kruyff
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I bet it's those 5 water pumps that got your attention! Within a week you'd be trying to put a serpentine belt sysytem on it 
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162402 is a reply to message #162397] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 11:39 |
roy1
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| Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 07 March 2012 07:44 |
There was a surviving example at the Walter P Chrysler Museum in Auburn Hills, MI last I knew.
Bob,
It only had one coolant pump.....
And that was direct drive.
This is not the strangest engine built by along shot.
Matt
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Interesting Engine. If I remember right the Sherman tank used a Cadillac or Olds engine and hydromatic transmission
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162403 is a reply to message #162402] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 11:46 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""Interesting Engine. If I remember right the Sherman tank used a Cadillac or Olds engine and hydromatic transmission
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One of our tanks used the Buick Dynaflow but not sure which one.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162406 is a reply to message #162402] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 11:51 |
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While riding a motorcycle around what was called the "tank battlefield"
on what was known as Nimitz Hill on Guam back in 1965, I spotted what
was obviously a destroyed American tank remnant of the battle and a
couple of really primitive Japanese tanks. I was told that the engine
in the US tank was a caddy. I didn't have a camera in those days.
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> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:39:51 -0600
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> Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 07 March 2012 07:44
> > Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 07 March 2012 07:51
> > > Just what we need for the GMC -- now that we have a HD front end:
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> > > http://autospeed.com/cms/A_112613/article.html
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> > > Ken H.
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> > There was a surviving example at the Walter P Chrysler Museum in Auburn Hills, MI last I knew.
> >
> > Bob,
> > It only had one coolant pump.....
> > And that was direct drive.
> >
> > This is not the strangest engine built by along shot.
> >
> > Matt
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> Interesting Engine. If I remember right the Sherman tank used a Cadillac or Olds engine and hydromatic transmission
>
> --
> Roy Keen
> Minden,NV
> 76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162421 is a reply to message #162403] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 13:54 |
James Hupy
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The M-47 Medium tank that I used to drive had 2 Cadillac Flathead engines
driving a modified Buick dynaflow type transmission. Weren't very fast, but
made up for that by using lots of gasoline. The real hot rod of the tanks I
had anything to do with was the M-41 light tank. They had an air cooled
flat six overhead valve engine similar to the Corvair design but a lot
larger in displacement, driving a 4 speed hydramatic transmission. They
would all run at least 60 MPH and some of them were faster. They were a
real handful to drive at high speed. They would slew violently from side to
side if you got too agressive with the t bar steering tiller. They were a
lot of fun to play with, but I wouldn't want to go up against a Russian
Hind helicopter gunship with one, or an Apache either. The M-47 had a 90 mm
flat trajectory main gun with a very good optical gunsight. The M-41 had a
76 mm main gun with the same sight. The M-42 which was known as the Duster
in Viet Nam was the M-41 Chassis with twin 40mm AAA guns on the turret.
They were lighter than the M41 and a little faster. Hq, Hq & Svc Co. 803
Tank Battalion, 41st Infantry Division, 6th Army. Nov 25, 1956 - 1965. Too
young for Korea, too old for Viet Nam.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
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> ""Interesting Engine. If I remember right the Sherman tank used a Cadillac
> or Olds engine and hydromatic transmission
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> One of our tanks used the Buick Dynaflow but not sure which one.
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162433 is a reply to message #162421] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 18:51 |
Kingsley Coach
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Well...!!
Got a tank and can't find information? I think we have a source for all
things ..Errr... big and heavy... <VBG>
Mike in NS
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> The M-47 Medium tank that I used to drive had 2 Cadillac Flathead engines
> driving a modified Buick dynaflow type transmission. Weren't very fast, but
> made up for that by using lots of gasoline. The real hot rod of the tanks I
> had anything to do with was the M-41 light tank. They had an air cooled
> flat six overhead valve engine similar to the Corvair design but a lot
> larger in displacement, driving a 4 speed hydramatic transmission. They
> would all run at least 60 MPH and some of them were faster. They were a
> real handful to drive at high speed. They would slew violently from side to
> side if you got too agressive with the t bar steering tiller. They were a
> lot of fun to play with, but I wouldn't want to go up against a Russian
> Hind helicopter gunship with one, or an Apache either. The M-47 had a 90 mm
> flat trajectory main gun with a very good optical gunsight. The M-41 had a
> 76 mm main gun with the same sight. The M-42 which was known as the Duster
> in Viet Nam was the M-41 Chassis with twin 40mm AAA guns on the turret.
> They were lighter than the M41 and a little faster. Hq, Hq & Svc Co. 803
> Tank Battalion, 41st Infantry Division, 6th Army. Nov 25, 1956 - 1965. Too
> young for Korea, too old for Viet Nam.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
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> >
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> > ""Interesting Engine. If I remember right the Sherman tank used a
> Cadillac
> > or Olds engine and hydromatic transmission
> > ""
> >
> > One of our tanks used the Buick Dynaflow but not sure which one.
> > --
> > Bob de Kruyff
> > 78 Eleganza
> > Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162436 is a reply to message #162384] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 20:00 |
jknezek
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If you look here about 1/3 of the way down you will see all the different engines used in the variations of WWII Sherman Tanks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Sherman
While it was all long before my time, I was always fascinated by WWII history. The important thing to remember about the equipment supplied to the military, was it was supplied by EVERYONE. I wrote several really long papers in college about the economic mobilization of the U.S. for WWII and the aftermath and it really was unbelievable. If we made it, and at the time we made everything, then from 1941 to 1945 it was made for the military.
There are great examples of light manufacturing such as flatware manufacturers being converted to military knives, bullets being manufactured by anyone with an assembly line, and every heavy industry in the country built whatever they could assemble for mechanized land, air and sea forces.
Therefore it should be no surprise that Ford, GM, Caterpillar, Continental, and Chrysler all supplied engines for variations of the same tank!
Don't even ask me about the follow up paper I wrote on how we avoided a second Great Depression after the war when government spending had to be converted back to private spending! Suffice to say, from '41 to the late '50s, the U.S. was blessed with incredible government and private sector leaders that essential led the U.S. from a weakened private sector economy to almost a complete public sector economy and back to a fully functioning and private economy with minimal economic blow back.
It is a feat that has never been equaled and may never again be accomplished.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162439 is a reply to message #162436] |
Wed, 07 March 2012 21:01 |
roy1
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It seems the M5 "Stewart " tank had 2 Cadillac engines and (2) 4 speed hydromatic transmissions and a 2 speed transfer(dynaflo?) It was made by Cadillac division of GM.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine? [message #162763 is a reply to message #162421] |
Mon, 12 March 2012 14:50 |
Greg and April
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Jim,
It is always a pleasure to meet a fellow tank crewman - even one from a
different era.
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Greg H.
I don't just march to the beat of my own drum - I have an entire brass band
to keep me company.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Hupy" <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 13:54
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Engine?
> The M-47 Medium tank that I used to drive had 2 Cadillac Flathead engines
> driving a modified Buick dynaflow type transmission. Weren't very fast,
> but
> made up for that by using lots of gasoline. The real hot rod of the tanks
> I
> had anything to do with was the M-41 light tank. They had an air cooled
> flat six overhead valve engine similar to the Corvair design but a lot
> larger in displacement, driving a 4 speed hydramatic transmission. They
> would all run at least 60 MPH and some of them were faster. They were a
> real handful to drive at high speed. They would slew violently from side
> to
> side if you got too agressive with the t bar steering tiller. They were a
> lot of fun to play with, but I wouldn't want to go up against a Russian
> Hind helicopter gunship with one, or an Apache either. The M-47 had a 90
> mm
> flat trajectory main gun with a very good optical gunsight. The M-41 had a
> 76 mm main gun with the same sight. The M-42 which was known as the Duster
> in Viet Nam was the M-41 Chassis with twin 40mm AAA guns on the turret.
> They were lighter than the M41 and a little faster. Hq, Hq & Svc Co. 803
> Tank Battalion, 41st Infantry Division, 6th Army. Nov 25, 1956 - 1965. Too
> young for Korea, too old for Viet Nam.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ""Interesting Engine. If I remember right the Sherman tank used a
>> Cadillac
>> or Olds engine and hydromatic transmission
>> ""
>>
>> One of our tanks used the Buick Dynaflow but not sure which one.
>> --
>> Bob de Kruyff
>> 78 Eleganza
>> Chandler, AZ
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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