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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161659 is a reply to message #161626] |
Mon, 27 February 2012 10:03 |
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mike miller
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Kelvin,
That is sweet!
I had thought the wood one could be duplicated in metal. I am not sure about the fabrication costs of a curved design. But your design seems to solve that.
What are your plans on the up/down latching? I have heard that was a weakness of the wood design.
Anyway, if it works out I would like one. (Depending on cost of course.)
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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Re: Table base [message #161675 is a reply to message #161600] |
Mon, 27 February 2012 12:36 |
pickle4k
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Thank you all for the info. I am sorry that the device is no longer made. It looks to be a great application for our GMC, since it does not take much storage space and gets out of the way when not in use. In a 23' there is not a lot of space to waste.
The "new" design also looks promising. I hope it will pan out and Kevin will consider to market it. I will be the first buyer when it is available, if I have not solved the "missing dinner table" issue. My coach has two sofas and no dinette.
I still would like to know the manufacturer's name of the pictured table assembly if possible, because if that was used in large volume in SOB's than there should be some in surplus or used available.
Thanks again,
Nick R. NorCal
76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath and
75-26' Avion
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161682 is a reply to message #161675] |
Mon, 27 February 2012 12:51 |
Ken Henderson
Messages: 8726 Registered: March 2004 Location: Americus, GA
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Nick,
I may have already shown you this. It was my answer to my inability to
devise anything as elegant as the original or Kelvins variant. It occupies
more under-sofa space and is probably more difficult to erect/stow, but it
does solve the problem for us:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3271
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3329
While you may find a used swing-down table, I doubt you'll find any new
stock -- IIRC, it was offered by an individual, or very small company, not
by someone who's still in business.
Ken H.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Nick Roenick wrote:
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> Thank you all for the info. I am sorry that the device is no longer made.
> It looks to be a great application for our GMC, since it does not take much
> storage space and gets out of the way when not in use.
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> I still would like to know the manufacturer's name of the pictured table
> assembly if possible, because if that was used in large volume in SOB's
> than there should be some in surplus or used available.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161699 is a reply to message #161675] |
Mon, 27 February 2012 14:13 |
Dan Winchester
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It has been a lot of years since I researched it so probably can't find the contact info. It was a very small production, don't think it was ever used by a manufacturer but was sold in after market.
I also have 2 couches, I put in one of those tables that sit on a removable post, socket is flush to floor and under carpet. When table is removed it stores behind cushions on one of couches and hole is filled by plug with matching carpet so becomes invisible. Table top is hinged so it can be left in place and folded back to allow passage from front to back without taking table down. The issues I had were when in drilling the hole in floor the first attempt found a floor stringer, and second I felt the fit of post in socket was a little wobbly so added a method to fasten it into socket a little better. I am presently using the small table that was used in the seating area in the back of a Royal, octagan shaped, a little small for more then two.
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Nick Roenick <pickle4k@comcast.net> wrote:
Thank you all for the info. I am sorry that the device is no longer made. It looks to be a great application for our GMC, since it does not take much storage space and gets out of the way when not in use. In a 23' there is not a lot of space to waste.
The "new" design also looks promising. I hope it will pan out and Kevin will consider to market it. I will be the first buyer when it is available, if I have not solved the "missing dinner table" issue. My coach has two sofas and no dinette.
I still would like to know the manufacturer's name of the pictured table assembly if possible, because if that was used in large volume in SOB's than there should be some in surplus or used available.
Thanks again,
--
Nick R. NorCal
76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161731 is a reply to message #161699] |
Mon, 27 February 2012 18:38 |
pickle4k
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Dan,
Do you have some pictures of your table mod? It might be a way for me to get it done. Providing I don't find the fuel tank when I drill my 23 footer.
Thank you,
Nick R. NorCal
76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath and
75-26' Avion
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162157 is a reply to message #162154] |
Sat, 03 March 2012 21:37 |
Ken Henderson
Messages: 8726 Registered: March 2004 Location: Americus, GA
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Kelvin,
One of the handiest features of my "Gas Powered Dining Table" is the
sliding top. It's really handy to be able to shift the top out of the
way, sit down, and move it back in front of you. Beats the heck out
of sliding sideways (which I WILL NOT do in a restaurant).
Regular ball bearing drawer slides do the trick.
Ken H.
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
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> Tomorrow I take my first shot at a table top. Won't be the final
> version until I've actually used this thing for a while. Want to make
> it as big as possible so I'll build something that I can trim down if I
> need to.
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Re: Table base [message #162158 is a reply to message #161600] |
Sat, 03 March 2012 22:06 |
GeorgeRud
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Kelvin's design looks great, and would be what I'd like to do in my coach. I wonder if this design could also be made in wood? Might make fabrication more of a DIY project rather than having a shop fabricate this in metal.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162164 is a reply to message #162157] |
Sun, 04 March 2012 00:10 |
kelvin
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I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.
I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
the direction of what you used?
Kelvin
On 3/3/2012 7:37 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Kelvin,
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> One of the handiest features of my "Gas Powered Dining Table" is the
> sliding top. It's really handy to be able to shift the top out of the
> way, sit down, and move it back in front of you. Beats the heck out
> of sliding sideways (which I WILL NOT do in a restaurant).
>
> Regular ball bearing drawer slides do the trick.
>
> Ken H.
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>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> ...
>> Tomorrow I take my first shot at a table top. Won't be the final
>> version until I've actually used this thing for a while. Want to make
>> it as big as possible so I'll build something that I can trim down if I
>> need to.
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162167 is a reply to message #162164] |
Sun, 04 March 2012 03:39 |
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mike miller
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Kelvin,
These picture might hold you until Ken answers.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3357&cat=3329>
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2707>
Kelvin Dietz wrote on Sat, 03 March 2012 22:10 | I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.
I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
the direction of what you used?
Kelvin
On 3/3/2012 7:37 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Kelvin,
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> One of the handiest features of my "Gas Powered Dining Table" is the
> sliding top. It's really handy to be able to shift the top out of the
> way, sit down, and move it back in front of you. Beats the heck out
> of sliding sideways (which I WILL NOT do in a restaurant).
>
> Regular ball bearing drawer slides do the trick.
>
> Ken H.
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(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162171 is a reply to message #162164] |
Sun, 04 March 2012 07:16 |
Ken Henderson
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Kelvin,
I don't find a photo of the underside of the table. I'll try to make
some today.
We had a conversation here last week about honeycomb panels; here's an
especially good view of the edge of that used for my table top:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2674&cat=3271
Ken H.
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
> that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
> seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.
>
> I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
> the direction of what you used?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162184 is a reply to message #162171] |
Sun, 04 March 2012 11:00 |
kelvin
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The honeycomb panel is a cool idea. Another thing to consider. I have to
admit I missed the thread last week.
Hoping to route the bottom of the table so I can mount any hardware flat
to the bottom, allowing the stowed table to sit flat against the front
of the couch. Might be a problem with honeycomb.
I'll start with 3/4" plywood and a piano hinge exposed at the top to
allow it to fold. I intend the final design to be a bit more elegant.
Mostly curious about which slide you used. You have the ability to pin
in so it doesn't move, I assume?
Thanks,
Kelvin
On 3/4/2012 5:16 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Kelvin,
>
> I don't find a photo of the underside of the table. I'll try to make
> some today.
>
> We had a conversation here last week about honeycomb panels; here's an
> especially good view of the edge of that used for my table top:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2674&cat=3271
>
> Ken H.
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> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>> I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
>> that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
>> seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.
>>
>> I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
>> the direction of what you used?
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162198 is a reply to message #162184] |
Sun, 04 March 2012 12:36 |
Ken Henderson
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Kelvin,
I've just posted 4 more photos of my table so you can see the
underside. Please excuse the duplicates -- I don't know why they're
there; I deleted them all once and reloaded single copies, only to
have the duplicates reappear.
Because of your desire to keep the depth of the table top down, you
might consider laying the slides flat.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?sortby=f&sorttime=9999&way=asc&thumbsonly=0&perpage=80&page=1&cat=3329&p puser=&thumbcheck=0&cat=3329
or
http://goo.gl/7IxcE
If you do decide to use honeycomb, I found some old photos of edge treatment.
The slides are just standard full-extension ball bearing devices.
No, I don't have a stowage, nor erected, latch. The under-sofa cover
is latched, keeping the table from moving when stowed. The gas
cylinder keeps it erected.
Ken H.
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> The honeycomb panel is a cool idea. Another thing to consider. I have to
> admit I missed the thread last week.
>
> Hoping to route the bottom of the table so I can mount any hardware flat
> to the bottom, allowing the stowed table to sit flat against the front
> of the couch. Might be a problem with honeycomb.
>
> I'll start with 3/4" plywood and a piano hinge exposed at the top to
> allow it to fold. I intend the final design to be a bit more elegant.
>
> Mostly curious about which slide you used. You have the ability to pin
> in so it doesn't move, I assume?
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162907 is a reply to message #162905] |
Tue, 13 March 2012 21:08 |
Ken Henderson
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That is Marvelous, Kelvin. Best design I've seen yet.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5995
Let me know if you need a manufacturer; I'm not interested myself, but
the machinist who makes the wiper kits is capable, economical, and has
the necessary equipment.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> A few more pictures uploaded.
> Got a prototype table in place. It actually works exactly as modeled in
> CAD. Always surprised by that...
>
> Still lots of work to finish it.
>
> Kelvin
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162920 is a reply to message #162907] |
Tue, 13 March 2012 21:40 |
kelvin
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Thanks, Ken.
And thanks for dropping the link in there. Had it all Copied and just
forgot to Paste. Kind of a standard email thing, ya know...
The only thing I would provide (assuming it makes any sense to do so)
would be the arm, the two links and dimension to where the pivot points
needed to be located. Attaching a table top would probably be left to
the User. We'll see.
Still a ways to go before I'm convinced it's something that could be
retrofitted to an existing couch. Someone with a bit of fabrication
experience will need to do one to see, I suppose. It should be possible
to build a simple framework to support the pivots, though. Never
actually looked inside a 260 couch to see how they're built...
Kelvin
On 3/13/2012 7:08 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> That is Marvelous, Kelvin. Best design I've seen yet.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5995
>
> Let me know if you need a manufacturer; I'm not interested myself, but
> the machinist who makes the wiper kits is capable, economical, and has
> the necessary equipment.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>> A few more pictures uploaded.
>> Got a prototype table in place. It actually works exactly as modeled in
>> CAD. Always surprised by that...
>>
>> Still lots of work to finish it.
>>
>> Kelvin
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