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pickle4k is currently offline  pickle4k   United States
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Does anyone have a table base like the attached photo? I found a pic in the file and I would like to get one like it.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1007&title=table-closed&cat=3091

Thanks for your help.


Nick R. NorCal 76-23'Transmode-Norris Rear Bath and 75-26' Avion
Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161621 is a reply to message #161600] Sun, 26 February 2012 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Winchester is currently offline  Dan Winchester   United States
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That table is no longer manufactured.
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Nick Roenick <pickle4k@comcast.net> wrote:



Does anyone have a table base like the attached photo? I found a pic in the file and I would like to get one like it.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1007&title=table-closed&cat=3091

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161626 is a reply to message #161600] Sun, 26 February 2012 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm working on one but I don't know how easy it would be to retrofit.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42941&title=table-leg&cat=5995

Might be as simple as welding up a framework inside an existing couch.
I don't really know yet. Also don't know how stable it will be when
installed. Hopefully getting the arm back this week from the fab shop.

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR

On 2/26/2012 6:47 PM, Nick Roenick wrote:
> Does anyone have a table base like the attached photo? I found a pic in the file and I would like to get one like it.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1007&title=table-closed&cat=3091
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> Thanks for your help.

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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161659 is a reply to message #161626] Mon, 27 February 2012 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin Dietz wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 21:58

I'm working on one but I don't know how easy it would be to retrofit.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42941&title=table-leg&cat=5995

Might be as simple as welding up a framework inside an existing couch.
I don't really know yet. Also don't know how stable it will be when
installed. Hopefully getting the arm back this week from the fab shop.


Kelvin,

That is sweet!

I had thought the wood one could be duplicated in metal. I am not sure about the fabrication costs of a curved design. But your design seems to solve that.

What are your plans on the up/down latching? I have heard that was a weakness of the wood design.

Anyway, if it works out I would like one. (Depending on cost of course.)


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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161663 is a reply to message #161659] Mon, 27 February 2012 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2/27/2012 8:03 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
> Kelvin Dietz wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 21:58
>> I'm working on one but I don't know how easy it would be to retrofit.
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42941&title=table-leg&cat=5995
>> Might be as simple as welding up a framework inside an existing
>> couch. I don't really know yet. Also don't know how stable it will be
>> when installed. Hopefully getting the arm back this week from the fab
>> shop.

> Kelvin, That is sweet! I had thought the wood one could be duplicated
> in metal. I am not sure about the fabrication costs of a curved
> design. But your design seems to solve that. What are your plans on
> the up/down latching? I have heard that was a weakness of the wood design.

Went the simple route to begin with.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=42952

A leg that swivels down to the floor. I'll try and devise something
that latches to the couch frame once I get this all working but thought
it was wise to incorporate this leg now rather than later.

>Anyway, if it works out I would like one. (Depending on cost of course.)

Just to give you an idea, the leg assembly is costing me $150 for
material and fabrication. No table. No coating.
We'll see how it all works out. Wasn't my intention to sell any but who
knows...

Kelvin
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Re: Table base [message #161675 is a reply to message #161600] Mon, 27 February 2012 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you all for the info. I am sorry that the device is no longer made. It looks to be a great application for our GMC, since it does not take much storage space and gets out of the way when not in use. In a 23' there is not a lot of space to waste.
The "new" design also looks promising. I hope it will pan out and Kevin will consider to market it. I will be the first buyer when it is available, if I have not solved the "missing dinner table" issue. My coach has two sofas and no dinette.
I still would like to know the manufacturer's name of the pictured table assembly if possible, because if that was used in large volume in SOB's than there should be some in surplus or used available.
Thanks again,


Nick R. NorCal 76-23'Transmode-Norris Rear Bath and 75-26' Avion
Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161682 is a reply to message #161675] Mon, 27 February 2012 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick,

I may have already shown you this. It was my answer to my inability to
devise anything as elegant as the original or Kelvins variant. It occupies
more under-sofa space and is probably more difficult to erect/stow, but it
does solve the problem for us:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3271
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3329

While you may find a used swing-down table, I doubt you'll find any new
stock -- IIRC, it was offered by an individual, or very small company, not
by someone who's still in business.

Ken H.


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Nick Roenick wrote:

>
>
> Thank you all for the info. I am sorry that the device is no longer made.
> It looks to be a great application for our GMC, since it does not take much
> storage space and gets out of the way when not in use.

...

> I still would like to know the manufacturer's name of the pictured table
> assembly if possible, because if that was used in large volume in SOB's
> than there should be some in surplus or used available.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161699 is a reply to message #161675] Mon, 27 February 2012 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It has been a lot of years since I researched it so probably can't find the contact info. It was a very small production, don't think it was ever used by a manufacturer but was sold in after market.

I also have 2 couches, I put in one of those tables that sit on a removable post, socket is flush to floor and under carpet. When table is removed it stores behind cushions on one of couches and hole is filled by plug with matching carpet so becomes invisible. Table top is hinged so it can be left in place and folded back to allow passage from front to back without taking table down. The issues I had were when in drilling the hole in floor the first attempt found a floor stringer, and second I felt the fit of post in socket was a little wobbly so added a method to fasten it into socket a little better. I am presently using the small table that was used in the seating area in the back of a Royal, octagan shaped, a little small for more then two.
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Nick Roenick <pickle4k@comcast.net> wrote:



Thank you all for the info. I am sorry that the device is no longer made. It looks to be a great application for our GMC, since it does not take much storage space and gets out of the way when not in use. In a 23' there is not a lot of space to waste.
The "new" design also looks promising. I hope it will pan out and Kevin will consider to market it. I will be the first buyer when it is available, if I have not solved the "missing dinner table" issue. My coach has two sofas and no dinette.
I still would like to know the manufacturer's name of the pictured table assembly if possible, because if that was used in large volume in SOB's than there should be some in surplus or used available.
Thanks again,
--
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76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #161731 is a reply to message #161699] Mon, 27 February 2012 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,
Do you have some pictures of your table mod? It might be a way for me to get it done. Providing I don't find the fuel tank when I drill my 23 footer.
Thank you,


Nick R. NorCal 76-23'Transmode-Norris Rear Bath and 75-26' Avion
Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162154 is a reply to message #161626] Sat, 03 March 2012 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got the arm back from the fab shop. They did it in stainless steel,
which both pleases and surprises me. It should polish up nicely.
I think I'm going to build a "socket" for the floor to hold the leg
secure, although I thing it would take quite a whack to dislodge it.

Tomorrow I take my first shot at a table top. Won't be the final
version until I've actually used this thing for a while. Want to make
it as big as possible so I'll build something that I can trim down if I
need to.

Kelvin



On 2/26/2012 9:58 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> I'm working on one but I don't know how easy it would be to retrofit.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42941&title=table-leg&cat=5995
>
> Might be as simple as welding up a framework inside an existing couch.
> I don't really know yet. Also don't know how stable it will be when
> installed. Hopefully getting the arm back this week from the fab shop.
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>
> On 2/26/2012 6:47 PM, Nick Roenick wrote:
>> Does anyone have a table base like the attached photo? I found a pic in the file and I would like to get one like it.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1007&title=table-closed&cat=3091
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162157 is a reply to message #162154] Sat, 03 March 2012 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin,

One of the handiest features of my "Gas Powered Dining Table" is the
sliding top. It's really handy to be able to shift the top out of the
way, sit down, and move it back in front of you. Beats the heck out
of sliding sideways (which I WILL NOT do in a restaurant).

Regular ball bearing drawer slides do the trick.

Ken H.


On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
...
> Tomorrow I take my first shot at a table top.  Won't be the final
> version until I've actually used this thing for a while.  Want to make
> it as big as possible so I'll build something that I can trim down if I
> need to.
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Re: Table base [message #162158 is a reply to message #161600] Sat, 03 March 2012 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin's design looks great, and would be what I'd like to do in my coach. I wonder if this design could also be made in wood? Might make fabrication more of a DIY project rather than having a shop fabricate this in metal.

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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162164 is a reply to message #162157] Sun, 04 March 2012 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.

I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
the direction of what you used?

Kelvin

On 3/3/2012 7:37 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Kelvin,
>
> One of the handiest features of my "Gas Powered Dining Table" is the
> sliding top. It's really handy to be able to shift the top out of the
> way, sit down, and move it back in front of you. Beats the heck out
> of sliding sideways (which I WILL NOT do in a restaurant).
>
> Regular ball bearing drawer slides do the trick.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> ...
>> Tomorrow I take my first shot at a table top. Won't be the final
>> version until I've actually used this thing for a while. Want to make
>> it as big as possible so I'll build something that I can trim down if I
>> need to.
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162167 is a reply to message #162164] Sun, 04 March 2012 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin,

These picture might hold you until Ken answers.

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3357&cat=3329>
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2707>

Kelvin Dietz wrote on Sat, 03 March 2012 22:10

I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.

I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
the direction of what you used?

Kelvin

On 3/3/2012 7:37 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Kelvin,
>
> One of the handiest features of my "Gas Powered Dining Table" is the
> sliding top. It's really handy to be able to shift the top out of the
> way, sit down, and move it back in front of you. Beats the heck out
> of sliding sideways (which I WILL NOT do in a restaurant).
>
> Regular ball bearing drawer slides do the trick.
>
> Ken H.



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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162171 is a reply to message #162164] Sun, 04 March 2012 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin,

I don't find a photo of the underside of the table. I'll try to make
some today.

We had a conversation here last week about honeycomb panels; here's an
especially good view of the edge of that used for my table top:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2674&cat=3271

Ken H.

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> I've been thinking about that very thing.  An added advantage would be
> that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
> seat, too.   Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.
>
> I'll do some research on the available parts.  Maybe you can aim me in
> the direction of what you used?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162184 is a reply to message #162171] Sun, 04 March 2012 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The honeycomb panel is a cool idea. Another thing to consider. I have to
admit I missed the thread last week.

Hoping to route the bottom of the table so I can mount any hardware flat
to the bottom, allowing the stowed table to sit flat against the front
of the couch. Might be a problem with honeycomb.

I'll start with 3/4" plywood and a piano hinge exposed at the top to
allow it to fold. I intend the final design to be a bit more elegant.

Mostly curious about which slide you used. You have the ability to pin
in so it doesn't move, I assume?

Thanks,
Kelvin


On 3/4/2012 5:16 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Kelvin,
>
> I don't find a photo of the underside of the table. I'll try to make
> some today.
>
> We had a conversation here last week about honeycomb panels; here's an
> especially good view of the edge of that used for my table top:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2674&cat=3271
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>> I've been thinking about that very thing. An added advantage would be
>> that you'd be less likely to use the table to lever yourself out of the
>> seat, too. Still not sure just how much this single leg can take.
>>
>> I'll do some research on the available parts. Maybe you can aim me in
>> the direction of what you used?
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162198 is a reply to message #162184] Sun, 04 March 2012 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin,

I've just posted 4 more photos of my table so you can see the
underside. Please excuse the duplicates -- I don't know why they're
there; I deleted them all once and reloaded single copies, only to
have the duplicates reappear.

Because of your desire to keep the depth of the table top down, you
might consider laying the slides flat.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?sortby=f&sorttime=9999&way=asc&thumbsonly=0&perpage=80&page=1&cat=3329&p puser=&thumbcheck=0&cat=3329
or
http://goo.gl/7IxcE

If you do decide to use honeycomb, I found some old photos of edge treatment.

The slides are just standard full-extension ball bearing devices.

No, I don't have a stowage, nor erected, latch. The under-sofa cover
is latched, keeping the table from moving when stowed. The gas
cylinder keeps it erected.

Ken H.


On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> The honeycomb panel is a cool idea. Another thing to consider. I have to
> admit I missed the thread last week.
>
> Hoping to route the bottom of the table so I can mount any hardware flat
> to the bottom, allowing the stowed table to sit flat against the front
> of the couch.  Might be a problem with honeycomb.
>
> I'll start with 3/4" plywood and a piano hinge exposed at the top to
> allow it to fold.  I intend the final design to be a bit more elegant.
>
> Mostly curious about which slide you used.  You have the ability to pin
> in so it doesn't move, I assume?
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162905 is a reply to message #162154] Tue, 13 March 2012 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A few more pictures uploaded.
Got a prototype table in place. It actually works exactly as modeled in
CAD. Always surprised by that...

Still lots of work to finish it.

Kelvin



On 3/3/2012 7:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> Got the arm back from the fab shop. They did it in stainless steel,
> which both pleases and surprises me. It should polish up nicely.
> I think I'm going to build a "socket" for the floor to hold the leg
> secure, although I thing it would take quite a whack to dislodge it.
>
> Tomorrow I take my first shot at a table top. Won't be the final
> version until I've actually used this thing for a while. Want to make
> it as big as possible so I'll build something that I can trim down if I
> need to.
>
> Kelvin
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2012 9:58 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>> I'm working on one but I don't know how easy it would be to retrofit.
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42941&title=table-leg&cat=5995
>>
>> Might be as simple as welding up a framework inside an existing couch.
>> I don't really know yet. Also don't know how stable it will be when
>> installed. Hopefully getting the arm back this week from the fab shop.
>>
>> Kelvin
>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>>
>> On 2/26/2012 6:47 PM, Nick Roenick wrote:
>>> Does anyone have a table base like the attached photo? I found a pic in the file and I would like to get one like it.
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1007&title=table-closed&cat=3091
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162907 is a reply to message #162905] Tue, 13 March 2012 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is Marvelous, Kelvin. Best design I've seen yet.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5995

Let me know if you need a manufacturer; I'm not interested myself, but
the machinist who makes the wiper kits is capable, economical, and has
the necessary equipment.

Ken H.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> A few more pictures uploaded.
> Got a prototype table in place.  It actually works exactly as modeled in
> CAD.  Always surprised by that...
>
> Still lots of work to finish it.
>
> Kelvin
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Re: [GMCnet] Table base [message #162920 is a reply to message #162907] Tue, 13 March 2012 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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Thanks, Ken.

And thanks for dropping the link in there. Had it all Copied and just
forgot to Paste. Kind of a standard email thing, ya know...

The only thing I would provide (assuming it makes any sense to do so)
would be the arm, the two links and dimension to where the pivot points
needed to be located. Attaching a table top would probably be left to
the User. We'll see.

Still a ways to go before I'm convinced it's something that could be
retrofitted to an existing couch. Someone with a bit of fabrication
experience will need to do one to see, I suppose. It should be possible
to build a simple framework to support the pivots, though. Never
actually looked inside a 260 couch to see how they're built...

Kelvin



On 3/13/2012 7:08 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> That is Marvelous, Kelvin. Best design I've seen yet.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5995
>
> Let me know if you need a manufacturer; I'm not interested myself, but
> the machinist who makes the wiper kits is capable, economical, and has
> the necessary equipment.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>> A few more pictures uploaded.
>> Got a prototype table in place. It actually works exactly as modeled in
>> CAD. Always surprised by that...
>>
>> Still lots of work to finish it.
>>
>> Kelvin
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