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Sun, 12 February 2012 15:46  |
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Netters
I am aware that this topic has little to do with GMC's...or maybe it has a
lot...
In Google, to the left, it lists my home town. I know what is available
locally, I am interested in a WORLD wide web search!
How do I rid myself of the localized searching based on a postal or zip
code and get true world wide searches?
I like Google but I've had enough. Hello Yahoo...but even that drops off
to Yahoo.ca from Yahoo.com...after a few searches..
Help ! <VBG>
Mike in NS
It used to be death and taxes...now it's shipping and handling !
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160097 is a reply to message #160095] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 16:02  |
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not using Google Chrome.
Mike
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:00 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 12 February 2012 15:46
> > Netters
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> > I am aware that this topic has little to do with GMC's...or maybe it has
> a lot...
> >
> > In Google, to the left, it lists my home town. I know what is available
> locally, I am interested in a WORLD wide web search!
> >
> > How do I rid myself of the localized searching based on a postal or zip
> code and get true world wide searches?
> >
> > I like Google but I've had enough. Hello Yahoo...but even that drops
> off to Yahoo.ca from Yahoo.com...after a few searches..
> >
> > Help ! <VBG>
> >
> >
> > Mike in NS
> > It used to be death and taxes...now it's shipping and handling!
> >
> >
> >
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> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
> If you made the mistake of installing Google chrome, uninstall it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160099 is a reply to message #160097] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 16:14 |
Tim Conway
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Just in case it's an issue, do you mean it's not installed on your computer, Mike? Even if you're not using it, it could be installed.
Tim Conway
LI NY 78 PB
On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not using Google Chrome.
> Mike
>> If you made the mistake of installing Google chrome, uninstall it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160100 is a reply to message #160099] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 16:33 |
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I'll check...thanks.
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Tim Conway <mactac735@mac.com> wrote:
> Just in case it's an issue, do you mean it's not installed on your
> computer, Mike? Even if you're not using it, it could be installed.
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> Tim Conway
> LI NY 78 PB
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> On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
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> > Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not using Google Chrome.
> > Mike
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> >> If you made the mistake of installing Google chrome, uninstall it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160104 is a reply to message #160100] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 16:44 |
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Tim
It was installed but I never used it. I have deleted but when I go to
Google....local searching Still prevails!
Thanks...any other suggestions ? <VBG>
Mike
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:
> I'll check...thanks.
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> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Tim Conway <mactac735@mac.com> wrote:
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>> Just in case it's an issue, do you mean it's not installed on your
>> computer, Mike? Even if you're not using it, it could be installed.
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>> Tim Conway
>> LI NY 78 PB
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>> On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
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>> > Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not using Google Chrome.
>> > Mike
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>> >> If you made the mistake of installing Google chrome, uninstall it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160106 is a reply to message #160090] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 16:56 |
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Watch this video, it kind of explains it through "filter bubbles".
Suffice it to say, Google, etc are doing that intentionally - not just
with location but with previous searches. You can try and clear all your
cache - content, cookies, etc.
http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html
Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
"Tzetze Fly"
On 2/12/2012 4:46 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
> Netters
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> I am aware that this topic has little to do with GMC's...or maybe it has a
> lot...
>
> In Google, to the left, it lists my home town. I know what is available
> locally, I am interested in a WORLD wide web search!
>
> How do I rid myself of the localized searching based on a postal or zip
> code and get true world wide searches?
>
> I like Google but I've had enough. Hello Yahoo...but even that drops off
> to Yahoo.ca from Yahoo.com...after a few searches..
>
> Help !<VBG>
>
>
> Mike in NS
> It used to be death and taxes...now it's shipping and handling !
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160109 is a reply to message #160106] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 17:17 |
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Hmmm, now that was interesting !
i *have tried to clean everything I can clean*....
Thanks
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Daniel Jarvis <TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com>wrote:
> Watch this video, it kind of explains it through "filter bubbles".
> Suffice it to say, Google, etc are doing that intentionally - not just
> with location but with previous searches. You can try and clear all your
> cache - content, cookies, etc.
> http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html
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> Dan in NC
> Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> "Tzetze Fly"
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> On 2/12/2012 4:46 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
> > Netters
> >
> > I am aware that this topic has little to do with GMC's...or maybe it has
> a
> > lot...
> >
> > In Google, to the left, it lists my home town. I know what is available
> > locally, I am interested in a WORLD wide web search!
> >
> > How do I rid myself of the localized searching based on a postal or zip
> > code and get true world wide searches?
> >
> > I like Google but I've had enough. Hello Yahoo...but even that drops off
> > to Yahoo.ca from Yahoo.com...after a few searches..
> >
> > Help !<VBG>
> >
> >
> > Mike in NS
> > It used to be death and taxes...now it's shipping and handling !
> >
> >
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160121 is a reply to message #160095] |
Sun, 12 February 2012 18:42 |
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If you made the mistake of installing Google chrome, uninstall it.
I've used Google Chrome for over a year with no problems. What is the problem? I'm not arguing - just asking.
Stick Miller
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'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160175 is a reply to message #160163] |
Mon, 13 February 2012 06:35 |
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Wayne
I use Foxfire but the search engine is what's irritating me...<g>
If I search for beer with Google, I get all the NS brands for the first 2
pages. If I search with Yahoo, it's almost as bad.
I know beer will help, but I have to find the right one! <VBG>
Mike in the far East
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Wayne <waynefraser@telus.net> wrote:
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> Hi Michael
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> Google (and others) are targeting "Hyper local" based on your IP address.
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> Have you tried Mozilla Firefox?
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> Cheers, Wayne
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160189 is a reply to message #160090] |
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 12 February 2012 16:46 |
Netters
I am aware that this topic has little to do with GMC's...or maybe it has a lot...
In Google, to the left, it lists my home town. I know what is available locally, I am interested in a WORLD wide web search!
How do I rid myself of the localized searching based on a postal or zip code and get true world wide searches?
I like Google but I've had enough. Hello Yahoo...but even that drops off to Yahoo.ca from Yahoo.com...after a few searches..
Help ! <VBG>
Mike in NS
It used to be death and taxes...now it's shipping and handling !
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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Mike,
Have you tried looking at all the settings available when you click the little gear in the top right? There are a lot of things that can be configured to restrict or open what you see.
I have all of the presonalization shut off, but I still only use Google for a few things because the paid sites so outnumber the interesting sites. I have the same problem with Yahoo, YP and Yellowbook, but there the geography is the reverse problem. They seem to think that either everything in SE MI is of interest or, because of the location of my ISP, I really want to drive to northern Ohio.
When it comes to these things, I use everything at some time or another. It all has problems one way or another. I run Firefox, Chrome and EI as browsers, do searches with Google, Bing, Metacrawler and Dogpile, I use Turkey Vulture (oops Thunderbird) for most of my mail, Gmail for some (but it does not do multiple @ddresses well, and Yahoo for a little - very little as it has not capability to receive from multiple @ddresses.
Ain't this all fun.
Internet is a powerful communicator, but I expect I will look to abandon it some day when it is completely overloaded by people trying to sell me stuff I don't and never will want. I all ready have spam filters a mile wide and all the pop-blocker set and cookies killed.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160191 is a reply to message #160090] |
Mon, 13 February 2012 08:03 |
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After creating a Google ad words campaign for my wife's law practice it became even more apparent to me that the term "search engine" is something of a misnomer. It's a search engine primarily for those things with little or no commercial value. Otherwise Google, Yahoo, Bing etc are really advertising engines masquerading as search engines. If you're willing to pay you can get ranked high on the search lists. Local businesses obviously target customers that live in their area and that is done by IP address.
Although I haven't tried to do so, perhaps one could achieve a "WORLD wide web search" by using an anonymous web surfing tool that conceals the IP address.
PB
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>Netters
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>I am aware that this topic has little to do with GMC's...or maybe it has a
>lot...
>
>In Google, to the left, it lists my home town. I know what is available
>locally, I am interested in a WORLD wide web search!
>
>How do I rid myself of the localized searching based on a postal or zip
>code and get true world wide searches?
>
>I like Google but I've had enough. Hello Yahoo...but even that drops off
>to Yahoo.ca from Yahoo.com...after a few searches..
>
>Help ! <VBG>
>
>
>Mike in NS
>It used to be death and taxes...now it's shipping and handling !
>
>
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>1977 Kingsley 26-11
>1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160197 is a reply to message #160175] |
Mon, 13 February 2012 08:23 |
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On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
> I use Foxfire but the search engine is what's irritating me...<g>
> If I search for beer with Google, I get all the NS brands for the first 2
> pages. If I search with Yahoo, it's almost as bad.
I just googled beer in my Safari browser and the only local hits in the first three pages were the local distributor I use (that I've googled several times in the past for their hours) and a local pub (though many, many more are nearer. I think I might have googled them a few months ago as their wings were so highly recommended). All the other hits were general info, various brands, beer making etc.
I've been very happily using Safari since Apple developed it. It's great for organizing my bookmarks. When I click on Bookmarks, I created 36 folders from Architecture to YouTube, one of them being of course, GMC. In the GMC folder, the first 8 are bdub, gene's, black list sites etc., then 10 folders from Articles to Tech Tips. Inside each one of those may be 10 or 20 sites or more folders. I must have thousands of bookmarks but because of the organization I can access what I want in a few seconds. I'm sure that's doable with other browsers, but as a right brained person, I need it's simplicity and elegance of design to get the most out of it.
It is available for the PC and it's a free download. Just google Safari. Some may want to check it out.
Tim Conway
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160208 is a reply to message #160191] |
Mon, 13 February 2012 09:59 |
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That's the crux of it. It is NOT what browser you use - it is the engine
where the query is placed. They are ALL doing it now - not just search
engines. It depends on what IP address the anonymizer gives you. If it
is a generic 192.168.x.x then you may have better luck getting
world-wide results.
Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
"Tzetze Fly"
On 2/13/2012 9:03 AM, Jp Benson wrote:
> Although I haven't tried to do so, perhaps one could achieve a "WORLD wide web search" by using an anonymous web surfing tool that conceals the IP address.
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| Re: [GMCnet] search engines//off topic [message #160300 is a reply to message #160208] |
Tue, 14 February 2012 03:01 |
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I just did an interesting search on Beer from this computer. The first one was done using my cable ISP and the results think I am in Hobart, IN in the next county. I did exactly the same search but I signed on using my neighbor's ISP which is a DSL provider. I got different result and Google thought I was in Crown Point, IN which is also in the next county. On cable I sometimes get results thinking that I'm in Griffith, In. I'm in none of these but Griffith is a major sight for my ISP. They must be using the IP address to determine this.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
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