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Fri, 10 February 2012 02:52  |
Richard Brown
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I found a website that sells like-new 16" steel wheels. They are for 1974-1988 GMC 3500 trucks, but I'm not sure they'll fit. Any idea if they'll fit? They're PN 1055, if that helps. This may be helpful for someone on a budget or who prefers steel wheels.
http://www.originalwheels.com/gmc-wheels/trucks3500rims-1978.php
They are at the top of the page. Perhaps one of our suppliers can work out a wholesale deal on them to lower the price. If the part # is a GMC number, it may help for someone looking for some locally, like I am.
PS They also have replacement 16.5s, although I doubt anyone but someone doing an original restoration would have any use for those.
The Co. is in Chino, Ca. so shipping may not be bad for West Coasters.
Richard & Carol Brown
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159847 is a reply to message #159845] |
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mike miller
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| Richard Brown wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 00:52 |
I found a website that sells like-new 16" steel wheels. They are for 1974-1988 GMC 3500 trucks, but I'm not sure they'll fit. Any idea if they'll fit? They're PN 1055, ...
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I am not sure of the codes but I suspect that the "SRW" is a problem. (Most likely Single wheel, Rear Wheel Drive.) The second from the bottom: pn 1062 with the "DRW" _might_ be the ones that will fit. But for $150 each for "Used-like new" steel wheels.... you might as well talk to Jimk and pick up some NEW hub centered Eagles. ($186.95 each with lug nuts!) <http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/623>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159860 is a reply to message #159845] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 07:36 |
GeorgeRud
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Actually, the second from the bottom ones are the original 16.5" steel wheels that came on the GMC motorhomes.
If they're interested, I"ll gladly sell them a bunch of 16.5" rims for half that amount! They must be "vintage" now, not just old and used.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159890 is a reply to message #159860] |
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| GeorgeRud wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 05:36 |
Actually, the second from the bottom ones are the original 16.5" steel wheels that came on the GMC motorhomes.
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Boy, that one slipped by me!
I do know the wheel in the picture (16 inch dually wheel) on the bottom of the page will NOT clear the brakes... it is "cone" shaped.
_IF_ the $75 wheels _ARE_ 16 inch DUALLY wheels, it might be worth calling them. If "someone" is close to Chino California (not far from Miguel's), they might be able to double check the "fit" before the wheels are shipped.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159917 is a reply to message #159845] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 14:03 |
Richard Brown
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I was posting for info only. Either price is way out of my budget. The reason I was wondering was if those years & part #s listed were correct for our application. The shipping would eat me alive if the cost didn't. If I get new wheels, it will likely be from local wrecking yards or private sellers that I can drive to & haul home myself. Besides, I have a transaxle for a Dodge to buy & get installed right now, so all GMC purchases are on indefinite hold, anyway. Primary transportation trumps recreational travel & we're afoot...
Richard & Carol Brown
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159927 is a reply to message #159845] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 15:16 |
GeorgeRud
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I'd certainly try checking local wrecking yards and the local Craigslist. The years quoted do look correct, but you do have to double check the center profile of whatever wheels you look at.
Also, be sure the center hub diameter is 4.567" to be sure they can be hub centered. It's pretty easy to find Ford wheels, but the GMC ones seem pretty rare these days ( at least up here in northern Illinois). As you mentioned, shipping charges will kill you unless you find them locally.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159932 is a reply to message #159927] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 16:30 |
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| GeorgeRud wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 16:16 |
I'd certainly try checking local wrecking yards and the local Craigslist. The years quoted do look correct, but you do have to double check the center profile of whatever wheels you look at.
Also, be sure the center hub diameter is 4.567" to be sure they can be hub centered. It's pretty easy to find Ford wheels, but the GMC ones seem pretty rare these days ( at least up here in northern Illinois). As you mentioned, shipping charges will kill you unless you find them locally.
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Actually, they are tough to come by all over. I had a national chain of used car parts looking for a year. They came up with 2 for about the Southwest Wheel price - used. Then I ordered from SW and they shipped something that would not fit. I shipped them back.
In a year I am going to start trading off 16.5 for 16 - 2 at a time. (I like Dan's plan a whole lot.)
After a year of diligent campaign, I have amassed enough to be at least a set. Most of them are ugly - some are Really Ugly. I still have to check them for true and I know two won't pass. I was going to have them blasted and then paint them quickly, but a found out about truck wheel "reconditioners". A local shop has a deal where they will put them on a pallet that this guy picks up for 25$us. They will get blasted and powdercoated. That puts me at about 55~60$ a wheel and I cam maybe still afford gas for the coach to go somewhere.
When I get it all figured out, and if I have any spares that are worth mounting, I will offer "reconditoned" wheels here on the swap page. At something close to my final actual cost. (Please don't hold your breath.)
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159935 is a reply to message #159845] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 18:03 |
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Here is some original 16.5 GMC MH steel wheel background (for what its worth:^)
The early GMCs actually used truck 16.5 wheels sorted for minimum runout. The best were used for production on the MHs, the rejects were used on trucks (I do not know what the runout spec. #s were). These MHs also had the bias tire treads ground at the Pontiac mfg. plant. This certainally suggested a serious concern for out of balance problems. I don't know when this practice ended, certainally by the time radials were implemented.
To my knowlege, this was never documented to the field.
My experience from the 1980s was that many owners experienced "shake" and pretty much put up with it (I did).
Other changes, in 1973 & 77 there were upgraded shocks used by GMC (still Delco) and of course now we have much improved KYB & Bilsteen shocks, balance beads and better radials.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159938 is a reply to message #159845] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 18:17 |
JohnL455
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Richard what they look like shape wise the second from the bottom but in 16". Too bad there are no pictures of the first few so one could tell, just that generic graphic. Comon Matt get goin on that blastin and coatin. ( that's my anti procrastination poke)
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159940 is a reply to message #159845] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 18:36 |
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Though you don't hear much about it, truing the tires (by shaving the tread) was common when we were running showroom stock cars back in the 70s. I know that JimB has the equipment to do this, and I think properly trued and balanced tire/wheel assemblies go a very long way to getting a good ride.
Obviously, the hub centered aluminum wheels are probably the best way to go.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159944 is a reply to message #159940] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 19:51 |
Ken Henderson
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Speaking of tire truing, here's a little trivia: The machine was invented
by a garage owner here in Americus, a friend of my grandfather's from the
time he moved here in 1927. The concept for the prototype was drawn in the
dirt with a stick, in front of his shop, by Roy Peacock. He was telling my
great uncle, an excellent machinist, what he wanted built -- and Uncle Doy
did it. That was in 1958, IIRC.
Some time later, Roy sold the rights to a company named Amermac, now
headquartered in Ellaville, GA, 9 miles north of me. I think they're still
there, still producing tire truers. But someone told me recently that
they've moved their headquarters.
Jim Bounds' stationary truer is an Amermac. So is the portable one I've
got stashed away in Frank Jenkins' garage down in Gainsville, FL. Since
the portable one is only usable to trim tires mounted on the front of a
GMC, we've talked about building a pedestal and tire mount for it, and
stationing the whole thing at Bean Station. But I'm not sure either of us
will live long enough to find the tuit for that. :-)
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:36 PM, George Rudawsky wrote:
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> Though you don't hear much about it, truing the tires (by shaving the
> tread) was common when we were running showroom stock cars back in the 70s.
> I know that JimB has the equipment to do this, and I think properly trued
> and balanced tire/wheel assemblies go a very long way to getting a good
> ride.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #159953 is a reply to message #159944] |
Fri, 10 February 2012 21:42 |
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Many vehicles wound up having tire and wheel sensitivities in production and tire/wheel sorting was common even into the 90's on vehicles such as the G body Riviera's and Auroras. Tire truing can help, but the real issue is tire radial force variation which requires very specialized equipment that places a load on the assembly and corrects for the force variation which is not the same as dimensional variation. The GMC is one of those vehicles that is very sensitive and steel wheels and old tires, coupled with poor shock damping can be an almost impossible thing to totally fix. Alcoas with high quality radials
are the best solution. I'm sure many people will rebell at that notion, but it's all about how sensitive you are and what you will put up with.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #160019 is a reply to message #159845] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 18:18 |
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Rob if you find some in an odd quantity, I could use 1 Alcoa for my spare. That way I don't need 2 sets of lugs and 2 sizes of sockets.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steel 16" Wheels [message #160055 is a reply to message #160027] |
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| Arthur Mansfield wrote on Sat, 11 February 2012 20:21 |
From what I am reading if I find a set of steel wheels I need to get the rim run out checked and centering checked before mounting tires. It might save a lot of trouble. I am hoping to find rims in the 25 to 30 dollar range if not then alloy would sound better.
Art & Doris
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It works like this:
If you can find steel wheels, they will probably need blasting and painting and then you have decent looking old steel wheels. Cost = 60$ ea is dead minimum
You can (maybe) buy new steel wheels for about 115$ea - at your door and you still have steel wheels.
JimK will sell you non-hub-centered wheels with non-rusting lugnuts and last I heard they were less than 200$ ea (but best check).
You give no hint where you are, but if it is rust belt and you can possibly afford alloy wheels, save you time.
Steel wheels that fit are old and often abused. If they were true to start with it is anybody's bet what they are like now. At least two of those that I have managed to acquire will probably never be put into coach service.
If my financial situation had not been destroyed by the last few years, I would have alloy wheels waiting for new tires. As it is, the amount we can afford for the coach budget will not allow both wheels and rallies in the same years.
Matt
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