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MikeT   United States
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TZE063V100926

Seller wants $1000.00 for this 1973. I don't think that's going to happen. Interior is gutted, no fridge, furnace, generator, seats, nothing. The frame is rusted beyond repair. Boggies are sagging.

Positives:

Windshields looked good, airbags looked ok but deflated, engine/transmission complete but not sure if it runs.

I think I've heard that 1973 A-arms are not rebuildable and the boggy pins on 73 are a different size then later models.

Must be towed.

Does anyone see any parts value in this coach considering that it needs to be towed and the labor to remove any usable parts and distribute?

Am I missing anything of value that is worth purchasing this for some price lower then $1000.00? Can you also estimate what the used part is worth?

Thanks

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/rvs/2815520912.html


Mike Thomas Marine City, MI 77 ex Palm Beach

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Re: Any parts value in this 73? [message #159418 is a reply to message #159416] Sun, 05 February 2012 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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MikeT wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 15:11

...I think I've heard that 1973 A-arms are not rebuildable and the boggy pins on 73 are a different size then later models. ...
I thought the A-arms could be rebuilt for a one-ton conversion, but no one will touch them for OEM restoration. Is that a misconception?
Also, combine this one http://knoxville.craigslist.org/rvs/2723118798.html with that one, and then DIY an interior to suit yourself.

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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159419 is a reply to message #159418] Sun, 05 February 2012 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to have the front window latches...

Gary and Diana Berry
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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159420 is a reply to message #159419] Sun, 05 February 2012 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lower arms are good for the one ton conversion
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to have the front window latches...
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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159421 is a reply to message #159418] Sun, 05 February 2012 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike / Mark,

AFAIK the A-arms from a '73 are the same basic arm as later years, however, because they don't use the method of reinforcement Steve
F doesn't mess with them.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that was because quite often he found them to be cracked and it was too much work to fix them
and then reinforce them to his standards. He wasn't happy with providing anything less than the very best to fellow GMCer's. IIRC
the weak area is the tip where the ball joint mounts.

I've Cc'd him on this message to make sure he sees it and has the opportunity expand on this explanation or to correct me if I am
wrong.

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Rob M.

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MikeT wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 15:11

> ...I think I've heard that 1973 A-arms are not rebuildable and the boggy pins on 73 are a different size then later models. ...

I thought the A-arms could be rebuilt for a one-ton conversion, but no one will touch them for OEM restoration. Is that a
misconception?

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Re: Any parts value in this 73? [message #159425 is a reply to message #159416] Sun, 05 February 2012 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would think the engine, trans, and associated running gear would all be worthwhile to have, but it would be a lot of work to pull all of that out of the coach.

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Re: Any parts value in this 73? [message #159455 is a reply to message #159416] Sun, 05 February 2012 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MikeT wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 15:11

TZE063V100926

Seller wants $1000.00 for this 1973. I don't think that's going to happen. Interior is gutted, no fridge, furnace, generator, seats, nothing. The frame is rusted beyond repair. Boggies are sagging.

Positives:

Windshields looked good, airbags looked ok but deflated, engine/transmission complete but not sure if it runs.

I think I've heard that 1973 A-arms are not rebuildable and the boggy pins on 73 are a different size then later models.

Must be towed.

Does anyone see any parts value in this coach considering that it needs to be towed and the labor to remove any usable parts and distribute?

Am I missing anything of value that is worth purchasing this for some price lower then $1000.00? Can you also estimate what the used part is worth?

Thanks

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/rvs/2815520912.html


I paid $375 for my '75 transmode with no interior, plus about $800 to have it hauled home. My frame is good and the bogies are the new size, I pulled the A-arms to reinforce and put on my '74. Carb was not a GMC carb. Radiator was missing, no Onan.

Pics here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5204

I bought this to save it from the crusher. By the time I'm all done I may break even on value received for $ spent. Some parts are desired by others but it's not cost effective to remove them and ship so it would have to be a local pickup.

Therefore, IMO, this is not a good deal at $1000. Maybe $100 if the towing was reasonable.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159459 is a reply to message #159419] Sun, 05 February 2012 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Berry wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 14:09

I would like to have the front window latches...


With it being a 1973, all the windows have the same kind of latches.

All years use the same latches for the cockpit windows and the 1973 and 1974 used the same latches on all the windows.

Just something people should know when parting out older coaches. Or just replacing the windows in an early coach...

... Save the latches!


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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159474 is a reply to message #159455] Mon, 06 February 2012 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 30 year old wind sheilds, don't they become more brittle and easier to
crack than say recently made
wind sheilds?
Just something I heard one time long ago,
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>wrote:

>
>
> MikeT wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 15:11
> > TZE063V100926
> >
> > Seller wants $1000.00 for this 1973. I don't think that's going to
> happen. Interior is gutted, no fridge, furnace, generator, seats, nothing.
> The frame is rusted beyond repair. Boggies are sagging.
> >
> > Positives:
> >
> > Windshields looked good, airbags looked ok but deflated,
> engine/transmission complete but not sure if it runs.
> >
> > I think I've heard that 1973 A-arms are not rebuildable and the boggy
> pins on 73 are a different size then later models.
> >
> > Must be towed.
> >
> > Does anyone see any parts value in this coach considering that it needs
> to be towed and the labor to remove any usable parts and distribute?
> >
> > Am I missing anything of value that is worth purchasing this for some
> price lower then $1000.00? Can you also estimate what the used part is
> worth?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/rvs/2815520912.html
>
>
> I paid $375 for my '75 transmode with no interior, plus about $800 to have
> it hauled home. My frame is good and the bogies are the new size, I pulled
> the A-arms to reinforce and put on my '74. Carb was not a GMC carb.
> Radiator was missing, no Onan.
>
> Pics here:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5204
>
> I bought this to save it from the crusher. By the time I'm all done I may
> break even on value received for $ spent. Some parts are desired by others
> but it's not cost effective to remove them and ship so it would have to be
> a local pickup.
>
> Therefore, IMO, this is not a good deal at $1000. Maybe $100 if the
> towing was reasonable.
> --
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> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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Re: Any parts value in this 73? [message #159489 is a reply to message #159416] Mon, 06 February 2012 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to have the honda odyssey from it Smile
(not sure how they got it inside either)


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Re: Any parts value in this 73? [message #159491 is a reply to message #159489] Mon, 06 February 2012 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1275gtsport wrote on Mon, 06 February 2012 10:23

I would like to have the honda odyssey from it Smile
(not sure how they got it inside either)


Looking closely at the picture the wiring to the license plate lamp is pulled off to the side. I suspect they have had the rear panel out. It appears this one was on its way to being converted into a toy hauler.


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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159492 is a reply to message #159489] Mon, 06 February 2012 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had thought I had seen a previous version of this ad with comments about
the rear being or becoming a door.
That was quite a while ago...

Russ

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> I would like to have the honda odyssey from it :)
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Re: Any parts value in this 73? [message #159525 is a reply to message #159416] Mon, 06 February 2012 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, the Odyssey is worth way more than that!


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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159528 is a reply to message #159419] Mon, 06 February 2012 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Berry wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 16:09

I would like to have the front window latches...

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Gary, do you remember those screws in Santa Rosa?
Dan


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Mike Miller wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 21:54

Gary Berry wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 14:09

I would like to have the front window latches...


With it being a 1973, all the windows have the same kind of latches.

All years use the same latches for the cockpit windows and the 1973 and 1974 used the same latches on all the windows.

Just something people should know when parting out older coaches. Or just replacing the windows in an early coach...

... Save the latches!


That is good information Mike. Teri and I are about to replace our windows with the T-sliders we have bought. I will save a couple of the latches from our 74 windows and make the others available to friends. I think the original glass will be scrap.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159538 is a reply to message #159528] Mon, 06 February 2012 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Dan;

Yep, I sure do. That and the lost stretch and the folded header
gaskets and etc, etc, etc. Those were the days...

Tried to find 4 geocaches with the grandkids yesterday and only
located one cache. Hopefully we will have better luck next time. Still
having fun in CA.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Gary, do you remember those screws in Santa Rosa?
> Dan

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Re: [GMCnet] Any parts value in this 73? [message #159544 is a reply to message #159538] Tue, 07 February 2012 00:11 Go to previous message
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If you do not have the overhead of labor time, then it would be a good buy.
The generator and LPG doors with hing are worth 50-70 each, rear
corner sections are worth 100-120per side, cockpit side glass complete is
wort 150-200 per side with framing,wiper switch is worth $40,
As you can see there is value, but you need to know how to carve the parts
so it is valuable to repair shops.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Dan;
>
> Yep, I sure do. That and the lost stretch and the folded header
> gaskets and etc, etc, etc. Those were the days...
>
> Tried to find 4 geocaches with the grandkids yesterday and only
> located one cache. Hopefully we will have better luck next time. Still
> having fun in CA.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Gary, do you remember those screws in Santa Rosa?
> > Dan
>
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