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Sat, 04 February 2012 19:06  |
Dolph Santorine
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I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff of propane when opening the valve that went away when it was fully open.
Can I replace the packing on the valve?
If it's in the MM, I couldn't find it.
As an aside, I have a fully functional Solaire. It's quiet, too. My only observation is that it does not see to be too efficient (based on temperature of the products of combustion). Is that typical/expected?
Dolph Santorine
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159381 is a reply to message #159323] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 07:13  |
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Matt Colie
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Sat, 04 February 2012 20:06 |
I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff of propane when opening the valve that went away when it was fully open.
Can I replace the packing on the valve?
If it's in the MM, I couldn't find it.
As an aside, I have a fully functional Solaire. It's quiet, too. My only observation is that it does not see to be too efficient (based on temperature of the products of combustion). Is that typical/expected?
Dolph Santorine
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Dolph,
I discovered the a similar failure. The local LP suppliers didn't want to deal with it. They only will service tanks that they own.
When I went in search, I could not find packing - actually not packing, but a rubber seal in my valve. It isn't listed in the parts manual. What is listed is the "stem" (parts manual pg 28-28) and I could not find that, but my search was time limited and I was able to buy a replacement valve (for something over 50$us) and it was not difficult to change out.
None of these little devices are all that good on thermal efficiency. Though my heater is only six years old, it is oversize and I would really like to find something more efficient and effective.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159385 is a reply to message #159323] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 08:28 |
jhbridges
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I took mine apart, and down to the local Ace and obtained O-rings close enough in size to fit (the originals were badly deteriorted) and reassembled it. I used silicone rubber O-rings. I filled the tank before the Orlando shows the second week in December, did a week down there. I'm at five days in Altalnta, using the same fill. It lost nothing whle sitting. It leaks a bit (you can smell it) whentransitioning from open to closed, ut is solid in either position. Took mayben hour plus a ride to the local Ace.
I suspect Jim K or Sirum have or can get a replacement for you, it's a standard valve. If you don't want to mess with it.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode Norris
'76 Palm Beach
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From: Dolph Santorine <dolph@dolphsantorine.com>
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Subject: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve
I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff of propane when opening the valve that went away when it was fully open.
Can I replace the packing on the valve?
If it's in the MM, I couldn't find it.
As an aside, I have a fully functional Solaire. It's quiet, too. My only observation is that it does not see to be too efficient (based on temperature of the products of combustion). Is that typical/expected?
Dolph Santorine
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159394 is a reply to message #159323] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 10:00 |
Ken Henderson
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Dolph,
I'm pretty sure those valves back-seat as well as front-seat, so a tiny
leak from the shaft during transition isn't worth worrying about. Just be
sure it's always fully closed or open. Check with bubble soap in each
position to be sure.
Ken H.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Dolph Santorine <dolph@dolphsantorine.com>wrote:
> I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff of propane when
> opening the valve that went away when it was fully open.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159405 is a reply to message #159394] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 11:15 |
James Hupy
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I concur with Ken. I have had several of those propane valves apart. There
is not much to prevent them from leaking when the valve is part way open.
They need to be fully opened to engage the "top" seal. I suspect that many
owners of propane tanks do not open the valve fully when using them, and
that would surely account for some leakage. Some of the less expensive
valves utilize "O" rings, while the more elaborate ones use specific seals.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> Dolph,
>
> I'm pretty sure those valves back-seat as well as front-seat, so a tiny
> leak from the shaft during transition isn't worth worrying about. Just be
> sure it's always fully closed or open. Check with bubble soap in each
> position to be sure.
>
> Ken H.
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> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Dolph Santorine <dolph@dolphsantorine.com
> >wrote:
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> > I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff of propane when
> > opening the valve that went away when it was fully open.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159407 is a reply to message #159405] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 11:26 |
Dolph Santorine
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Thanks, Gentlemen.
Dolph Santorine
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
dolph@dolphsantorine.com
1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
TZE167V100820
1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
TZE166V101610
On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> I concur with Ken. I have had several of those propane valves apart. There
> is not much to prevent them from leaking when the valve is part way open.
> They need to be fully opened to engage the "top" seal. I suspect that many
> owners of propane tanks do not open the valve fully when using them, and
> that would surely account for some leakage. Some of the less expensive
> valves utilize "O" rings, while the more elaborate ones use specific seals.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
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> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
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>> Dolph,
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>> I'm pretty sure those valves back-seat as well as front-seat, so a tiny
>> leak from the shaft during transition isn't worth worrying about. Just be
>> sure it's always fully closed or open. Check with bubble soap in each
>> position to be sure.
>>
>> Ken H.
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>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Dolph Santorine <dolph@dolphsantorine.com
>>> wrote:
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>>> I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff of propane when
>>> opening the valve that went away when it was fully open.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159408 is a reply to message #159394] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 11:43 |
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mike miller
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Disclaimer: I had an Uncle die from compilations from propane exposure, so I am a bit paranoid about it. (Granted the circumstances of his exposure probably wouldn't happen from an RV tank.)
I did not like how much mine leaked when opening and closing so I had it replaced at a "real" propane service center. (The guys who supply the BBQ shops and send out trucks to fill tanks at remote locations.)
BUT... Before replacing it, they did inform me that they are not designed to be left half open. They are designed to be fully open or closed. After looking the repairman agreed that my valve lost more propane than what would be expected during the transition from fully open/close. So I have a nice new valve.
| Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 08:00 |
I'm pretty sure those valves back-seat as well as front-seat, so a tiny leak from the shaft during transition isn't worth worrying about. Just be sure it's always fully closed or open. Check with bubble soap in each position to be sure.
> I opened the valve on the propane tank today, Had a wiff
> of propane when opening the valve that went away when it
> was fully open.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159413 is a reply to message #159323] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 13:32 |
lqqkatjon
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I had a small leak on the top of the valve behind the handle. so I leaked out the rest over a weekend.
I unscrewed the valve with a pipe wrench, and went to a local propane place. $24.00 later, I had the new valve and screwed it in. was very simple. other then being carefull with leaking off the propane. I also spent $15 on a new fill valve too while I had the propane out.
I saw valves cheaper via internet. but this was a guarantee fit. it was a very common valve.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Propane Tank Valve [message #159435 is a reply to message #159408] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 18:01 |
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USAussie
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Mike / Ken,
I stumbled on a cross section drawing of a propane on / off valve the other day and it showed exactly what you've noted below;
damned if I can find it now!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller
Disclaimer: I had an Uncle die from compilations from propane exposure, so I am a bit paranoid about it. (Granted the circumstances
of his exposure probably wouldn't happen from an RV tank.)
I did not like how much mine leaked when opening and closing so I had it replaced at a "real" propane service center. (The guys who
supply the BBQ shops and send out trucks to fill tanks at remote locations.)
BUT... Before replacing it, they did inform me that they are not designed to be left half open. They are designed to be fully open
or closed. After looking the repairman agreed that my valve lost more propane than what would be expected during the transition
from fully open/close. So I have a nice new valve.
Mike
Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 08:00
I'm pretty sure those valves back-seat as well as front-seat, so a tiny leak from the shaft during transition isn't worth worrying
about. Just be sure it's always fully closed or open. Check with bubble soap in each position to be sure.
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