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| Wheel Spacers [message #157976] |
Wed, 25 January 2012 15:36  |
Marsha
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Does anyone have the dimensions or a diagram of the wheel spacers? I know there have been a few discussions about pro and cons. But I was thinking about maybe going with a more common bolt pattern so there would be more options for wheels.
Marsha
75 Eleganza
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #157999 is a reply to message #157993] |
Wed, 25 January 2012 20:53  |
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USAussie
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Marsha,
Responses below in CAPS for clarity, I'm not shouting.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marsha
Rob,
Thanks for your reply. I think I understand (although that's always up for interpretation!). I need to make sure the surface that
attaches to the hub is true to the center of the hub and the lugs.
YES
What I was after was the actual measurements of what the GMC hub center was, factory. I am most concerned about is the centering
ring, the height, taper and diameter. I could measure mine, but I was afraid they might not be true enough. This way I could make a
hub centric spacers and while I was about it I was thinking of adapting to a more currently available 17" wheel.
Marsha
HERE'S A LINK TO A LINE DRAWING OF THE ALCOA WHEEL:
HTTP://WWW.GMCMHPHOTOS.COM/PHOTOS/SHOWPHOTO.PHP?PHOTO=32173
HERE'S A LINK TO THE FITMENT GUIDE FOR THEM:
HTTP://WWW.GMCMHPHOTOS.COM/PHOTOS/SHOWPHOTO.PHP?PHOTO=42249
THESE TWO LINKS SHOULD PROVIDE ALL THE INFO YOU NEED TO MAKE THE SPACERS AND TO SELECT THE WHEELS.
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| Re: Wheel Spacers [message #158013 is a reply to message #157976] |
Wed, 25 January 2012 21:54 |
Adrien G.
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Marsha,
If your thinking of a different bolt pattern (such as a 19" x 10 bolt rim).
As long as the new bolt circle pattern falls well outside the OEM bolt circle, it can be done. A small amount smaller or larger bolt circle, it can also be done but it has to stay a 6 bolts pattern.
The center register (the hub center) can be machined to fit newer model rims centers. Or also machined to have replaceable press in registers for different rim center diameters.
>>Does anyone have the dimensions or a diagram of the wheel >>spacers? I know there have been a few discussions about pro and >>cons. But I was thinking about maybe going with a more common >>bolt pattern so there would be more options for wheels.
Marsha
75 Eleganza
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #158068 is a reply to message #158025] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 09:19 |
Marsha
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Still nothing....
--- On Wed, 1/25/12, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
Marsha,
Me neither!
It might be because I changed the case from lower case to upper case, here they are again.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42249
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32173
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marsha
Rob,
My thanks might have been premature, I can't get the links to work.
Marsha
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #158071 is a reply to message #158068] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 09:49 |
Mr ERFisher
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did you ask Jim Hupy?
gene
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Marsha <makeminetea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Still nothing....
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> --- On Wed, 1/25/12, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
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> From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
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> Marsha,
>
> Me neither!
>
> It might be because I changed the case from lower case to upper case, here
> they are again.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42249
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32173
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marsha
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> Rob,
>
> My thanks might have been premature, I can't get the links to work.
>
> Marsha
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #158125 is a reply to message #158113] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 18:12 |
James Hupy
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Gene and others, Jim K & others as well sell a set of 2" spacers that
Alcoa's and Eagles for sure fit. They are very rugged and bolt on to the
original wheel studs. I do not rule out the possibility of a metric wheel
that would work if the stud circle were spaced for that application, but
the 17" tire market is scant. I have 17s on my Turbo PT Cruiser and they
are very $$$$$.
I think that the 16" load range E tires are available from a large number
of manufacturers, and that keeps the cost reasonable. But, this is America,
you are free to choose whatever your pocketbook will allow you to. If there
were sufficient interest in some other wheel/ tire combination, I might get
interested in making hub extenders for them. Spacers are another matter
entirely. There is a reason that the current ones sell for $300.00+.
Precision, and liability and short production runs are three good reasons
that I can think of.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:04 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 09:49
> > did you ask Jim Hupy?
> >
> > gene
> The text accompanying the picture at http://bdub.net/jhupy/ states that
> the set of parts he makes is to "facilitate the use of 16" GM steel wheels
> from a 1 Ton GMC or Chev Truck before they went to metric specs."
> He could probably make almost identical sets that would compensate for the
> hub bore sizes of Ford rims. If he wanted to fabricate some, there are
> folks on this forum that would be interested in his pricing for a set that
> would fit Ford rims to a GMC. It seems to me that they would work on alloy
> wheels as well as steel.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #158128 is a reply to message #158125] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 18:34 |
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This thread would fit in this question i hope, If i have - which i do, 16.5 inch rims. I buy E tires for my vans for about 110 dollars, i would save if the
16.5 tires cost 170$. about 60 dollars per tire times 6 is 360 dollars towards 16 inch rims, if i do this over a few years it pays for the new rims.
What is the best cheapest rims to buy that are 16 inch and that i can put the spacers on as we are in the thread for the tread.
so to speak.
what rims to get 16 inch to use with the wheel spacers. 1977 sold in 78 palm beach 26', thank you> mick
does anyone have any used ones for me? or spacers.
On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:12 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> Gene and others, Jim K & others as well sell a set of 2" spacers that
> Alcoa's and Eagles for sure fit. They are very rugged and bolt on to the
> original wheel studs. I do not rule out the possibility of a metric wheel
> that would work if the stud circle were spaced for that application, but
> the 17" tire market is scant. I have 17s on my Turbo PT Cruiser and they
> are very $$$$$.
> I think that the 16" load range E tires are available from a large number
> of manufacturers, and that keeps the cost reasonable. But, this is America,
> you are free to choose whatever your pocketbook will allow you to. If there
> were sufficient interest in some other wheel/ tire combination, I might get
> interested in making hub extenders for them. Spacers are another matter
> entirely. There is a reason that the current ones sell for $300.00+.
> Precision, and liability and short production runs are three good reasons
> that I can think of.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:04 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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>> Mr ERFisher wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 09:49
>>> did you ask Jim Hupy?
>>>
>>> gene
>> The text accompanying the picture at http://bdub.net/jhupy/ states that
>> the set of parts he makes is to "facilitate the use of 16" GM steel wheels
>> from a 1 Ton GMC or Chev Truck before they went to metric specs."
>> He could probably make almost identical sets that would compensate for the
>> hub bore sizes of Ford rims. If he wanted to fabricate some, there are
>> folks on this forum that would be interested in his pricing for a set that
>> would fit Ford rims to a GMC. It seems to me that they would work on alloy
>> wheels as well as steel.
>> --
>> '73 23' CanyonLands
>> UA (Upper Alabama)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #158134 is a reply to message #158128] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 19:14 |
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| mickeysss wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 18:34 |
What is the best cheapest rims to buy that are 16 inch and that i can put the spacers on as we are in the thread for the tread.
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Can of worms question. But the least expensive rims would be a correctly shaped 16" steel wheel. You might be able to find them second hand. I got mine for about $30 each. Other alternative is Alloy wheels. Almost certainly going to be a lot more than that. If you don't have 80mm calipers, no spacers required on either. If you do have 80mm calipers, 3/8" spacers might be required on steel rims, but not on aluminum.
Correct steel rims have 4-9/16" hub hole and look like the one pictured at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=38755&title=after&cat=5701
JimK sells aluminum rims.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Spacers [message #158146 is a reply to message #158143] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 21:09 |
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thank you.
being a wing nut myself i get the idea about the lug nuts. corrosion vs function vs looks. I like having things cheap enough not to break into
but functions better than normal. I plan to live as i did on a boat in marina del rey for 5 years 8 years ago. I lived on a 38 foot old
two chrysler v8's chris craft wood conney, that i managed to get compression checked and got them running enough to get to catalina isle once.
I plan since i am a lone dog to live on the gmc for paying rent can go into the project as i stay on it and run my business which is
vans going from lax to disneyland hotels for the last 24 years. I have found that if you live on it you work on it more. SO this should
be fun. If i could start a thread i would ask living on it habits that pay off. I love the idea of paying the rent i pay now and putting it in
the beast each month. the beach life in l.a. area is easy to live in and i still surf at 66 years old. so in a few months i will make the
change i hope. Any way I feel the biggest problem is designing it to where a crack head will not brake into and a female will enter.
a female crack head. maybe.
really my main thing i hate is someone breaking in and stealing every thing this is my main concern. Tristan jones would put tacks on the floor
when he left his boat, swept them up when he got back but in the dark it hurts to get a tack, he kept a bow and arrow on the boat that was legal all over the world, maybe a lion recording plays every few minutes. internet cameras on an iphone hook up to cameras all over the thing. any way hope i am not getting to deeply off track here. thank you
any way thank you all for having this extraordinary design to share with this great tool to live in the gmc motor home. thank you mickey ^-^
On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:35 PM, A. wrote:
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> mickeysss wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 20:20
>> sorry about the worms, i will go fishing with them. very kind to help thank you. M.
> I should have tossed out some advantages and disadvantages of each. Aluminum wheels are more true and balanced than steel. Used steel rims have a good chance of being bent and you might not notice it until it is installed on the hub. Appearance and care is another area that can affect your decision, if you are genuinely concerned about how they look. I think a good paint job on a steel wheel is good enough, others want to cover them with wheel covers. Alloy might oxidize and need special polishes, etc. And the lugnuts can rust if you get the wrong ones on your alloy wheels. That's probably enough droning on for now.
> --
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