| How much "weight" will the rain gutters Hold [message #156919] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 11:18  |
1275gtsport
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OK so I Have never been one to conform. so I want something different for an awning (the GMC is not just another box camper either) So after countless hours online and a few discussion here and on other RV sites I have come up with the Shade Sail. link.
Now not with this seller but from other sites I have found that there is about 70lbs, at least, of torque placed between the connections points of the sail. Having not seen this in person yet not sure if the tension is transferred to the "wall" or not. the mounting hardware that the other sites offer is rather heavy duty. with 1 inch eye-bolts and turnbuckles.
If there is a concern I could build a frame that the shade would be stretched onto kind of like a painting frame. I would prefer to keep it as simple (and cheap) as possible.
And I bought 2 of these, the thought being that I could overlap and have a 22x11 awning/shaded area.
Adam Raeburn
Rothesay, NB
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| Re: How much "weight" will the rain gutters Hold [message #156923 is a reply to message #156919] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 11:39  |
Bob de Kruyff
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| 1275gtsport wrote on Mon, 16 January 2012 10:18 |
OK so I Have never been one to conform. so I want something different for an awning (the GMC is not just another box camper either) So after countless hours online and a few discussion here and on other RV sites I have come up with the Shade Sail. link.
Now not with this seller but from other sites I have found that there is about 70lbs, at least, of torque placed between the connections points of the sail. Having not seen this in person yet not sure if the tension is transferred to the "wall" or not. the mounting hardware that the other sites offer is rather heavy duty. with 1 inch eye-bolts and turnbuckles.
If there is a concern I could build a frame that the shade would be stretched onto kind of like a painting frame. I would prefer to keep it as simple (and cheap) as possible.
And I bought 2 of these, the thought being that I could overlap and have a 22x11 awning/shaded area.
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Looks like an interesting approach. The rain gutters on the GMC are pretty substantial and mounted in an area with good structure. The 70 pounds wouldn't worry me at all, but I'm not sure what a decent wind gust may do. Are you thinking of attaching just to the gutters or the structure below them as well?
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: How much "weight" will the rain gutters Hold [message #156928 is a reply to message #156919] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 11:52 |
GeorgeRud
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The PO of my coach had attached something similar to the rain gutters by drilling a bunch of holes along the gutter to attach a tarp like shade. There was no problem with the gutter holding the shade uyp, but the holes do not allow the gutter to work properly.
I have been sealing the holes, and hope to someday remove the entire gutter to properly seal the holes permenantly. The underlying structure could certainly take the loads that you are contemplating, but think twice about where you drill the holes. I think that fewer holes in the roof area translates to fewer spots to have to look for leaks in the future.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] How much "weight" will the rain gutters Hold [message #156930 is a reply to message #156919] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 11:58 |
Kudzu
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I have one of these sails over my patio and they will hold A LOT! The
70lbs stated is probably for an unburdened sail but enough to keep it in
tension. I am sure I have exceeded many times that at the corners (Rain
deluge, 12" set snow). If I had this on an RV, I would ensure that it
was angled for quick runoff. JMO...
Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
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On 1/16/2012 12:18 PM, 1275gtsport@gmail.com wrote:
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> OK so I Have never been one to conform. so I want something different for an awning (the GMC is not just another box camper either) So after countless hours online and a few discussion here and on other RV sites I have come up with the Shade Sail. http://www.amazon.com/Idirectmart-Square-Shade-Sail-Inches/dp/B00548UBMU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1326733765&sr=8-9.
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> Now not with this seller but from other sites I have found that there is about 70lbs, at least, of torque placed between the connections points of the sail. Having not seen this in person yet not sure if the tension is transferred to the "wall" or not. the mounting hardware that the other sites offer is rather heavy duty. with 1 inch eye-bolts and turnbuckles.
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> If there is a concern I could build a frame that the shade would be stretched onto kind of like a painting frame. I would prefer to keep it as simple (and cheap) as possible.
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| Re: How much "weight" will the rain gutters Hold [message #157557 is a reply to message #156943] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 04:23 |
Larry C
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Hi
I have a similar cover over the patio in the back yard, well not now, its Winter, but I did have it up over Winter at one time.
The cover itself is not all that much, 15-20lbs. But when you put up the poles and line to hold it taught, the force gets up there.
I have done a couple of things with the GMC to fight the heat, this is a good idea that you are studying.
My cover attached with line to a couple of eye bolts in the house. As I recall, the screws on the gutter are 3/16". You may have to get a longer bolt but why couldn't you attach a loop on either end, metal with a hole to tie or hook to, to a couple of the screws. You can put it up with a short pole, hook to the loop on both sides. The front hook would be attached to the hook that goes into the front loop. The rear hook would act like a pulley, the line from the back of the tarp goes through the hook loop and has a knot on the end which you use a nice bungie to pull tight and hooks to the bottom frame of the GMC. , all this can be done from the ground.
The poles and line attachments would be like with a tent or canopy, old school.
( edit addition --- you could use those pole extentions used for paint rollers, sold a menards and big box stores. they are about 5 foot when closed and extend to 10-12 foot as I recall. )
BTW, Harbor freight sells a black mesh tarp that might do the job as well. Yes its black but it cuts the sun down. I was given this idea from Dave Greenburg ( thank you very much ).
Of course this may have to be refined but it does not seem impossible but very doable.
Just another option.
My thoughts.
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