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Sat, 14 January 2012 23:09  |
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This week I'm getting a estimate on the cost of a metal company making me custom cut panels that I can add to the top half of my gmc. If i opt to do it I'll rivet them to the gmc. They will resist heat (my gmc top 1/2 is black) I don't want to paint it. I really think it will look cool as well! Not the roof just around all the windows.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156740 is a reply to message #156738] |
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I suspect something like this but with polished Aluminum on the roof.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=38753>
| Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 14 January 2012 22:22 |
HUH?
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From: gmclist On Behalf Of Michael
This week I'm getting a estimate on the cost of a metal company making me custom cut panels that I can add to the top half of my
gmc. If i opt to do it I'll rivet them to the gmc. They will resist heat (my gmc top 1/2 is black) I don't want to paint it. I
really think it will look cool as well! Not the roof just around all the windows.
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| Re: Aluminum [message #156761 is a reply to message #156734] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 08:28 |
Dennis S
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Curious why -- the GMC roof is one big sheet of aluminum....
well, except for the end caps.
Dennis
| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sat, 14 January 2012 23:09 |
This week I'm getting a estimate on the cost of a metal company making me custom cut panels that I can add to the top half of my gmc. If i opt to do it I'll rivet them to the gmc. They will resist heat (my gmc top 1/2 is black) I don't want to paint it. I really think it will look cool as well! Not the roof just around all the windows.
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| Re: Aluminum [message #156762 is a reply to message #156761] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 08:38 |
Dennis S
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Rereading your post maybe you mean the sides above the beltline -- that's aluminum now as well...
hmmm...
Dennis
| Dennis S wrote on Sun, 15 January 2012 08:28 |
Curious why -- the GMC roof is one big sheet of aluminum....
well, except for the end caps.
Dennis
| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sat, 14 January 2012 23:09 |
This week I'm getting a estimate on the cost of a metal company making me custom cut panels that I can add to the top half of my gmc. If i opt to do it I'll rivet them to the gmc. They will resist heat (my gmc top 1/2 is black) I don't want to paint it. I really think it will look cool as well! Not the roof just around all the windows.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156794 is a reply to message #156734] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 12:25 |
Dave Mumert
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The upper skin is already Aluminum, why don't you just strip the paint off
and buff it?
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [GMCnet] Aluminum
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> This week I'm getting a estimate on the cost of a metal company making me
> custom cut panels that I can add to the top half of my gmc. If i opt to do
it I'll
> rivet them to the gmc. They will resist heat (my gmc top 1/2 is black) I
don't
> want to paint it. I really think it will look cool as well! Not the roof
just around
> all the windows.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156856 is a reply to message #156738] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 20:08 |
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I have found through various experiments that polished metals don't reflect heat as much as we'd like to think.
AS for the roof, use cool seal on the top flat part, not over the curve that CAN'T be seen. In my uses, cool seal drops the suns heat dramatically where metal gets hot.
If your sides are getting hot, put up shades outside, awnings, etc to block the sun. The metal is going to get hot and you will be no better off than you are now.
Paint that black color over to BRITE WHITE for starts. That will help reflect a lot of heat. Not as good as shade from an awning but better then black, which by the way is used for solar heat collectors. Just thought I'd point that out.
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| Re: Aluminum [message #156863 is a reply to message #156734] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 20:35 |
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I'm not wanting to do the roof. But the sides. I never saw that pic link before, but yup thats what I want to do!!!!!! Awesome pic.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156886 is a reply to message #156856] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 23:01 |
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They sell Kool Seal (if it's the same product) here at Lowe's hardware.
Which one of their products did you use? Thanks!
Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
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On 1/15/2012 9:08 PM, Larry C wrote:
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> I have found through various experiments that polished metals don't reflect heat as much as we'd like to think.
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> AS for the roof, use cool seal on the top flat part, not over the curve that can be seen. In my uses, cool seal drops the suns heat dramatically where metal gets hot.
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> If your sides are getting hot, put up shades outside, awnings, etc to block the sun. The metal is going to get hot and you will be no better off than you are now.
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> Paint that black color over to BRITE WHITE for starts. That will help reflect a lot of heat. Not as good as shade from an awning but better then black, which by the way is used for solar heat collectors. Just thought I'd point that out.
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> My thoughts
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156889 is a reply to message #156886] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 00:04 |
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Hello,
I love the shiny look idea on the sides of the coach.
You are obviously going for a coach with an unusual look.
You may be aware, that you can get the measurements of the panels GM used. Always love to see pics of what folks have done to their coaches.
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
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| Re: Aluminum [message #156918 is a reply to message #156734] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 11:15 |
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Yea I like the unique part of the aluminum. Plus it will allow me to install a barrier behind the aluminum to cool off the GMC as well. I'll research what I'd like to use there. Not to sure, but I don't want to make it all aluminum just above the belt line.
For the roof I'm taking everything off the roof before I go with the TurboKool install. (and I'd like to build some sorta storage up there for my solar panels). I'm going to seal the roof with epoxy paint to help seal it. Theres one that my friend used that turns into a nice rubber type feel, and really sealed small holes etc well. I'll ask him the brand. Can heat reflect paint be used over epoxy paint or is that over kill?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156940 is a reply to message #156886] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 12:48 |
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I do favor use of KoolSeal on the roof, but not on the curve where it can be seen. Paint is the normal application for a GMC but KS will reflect the suns rays and heat where paint can't do that. That is what I think a GMCer would need it for. The surface inside the coach that has the KoolSeal above it will be cool to touch, even in the hot sun. ( I do not sell this product, I have used it and know what it can do. )
I just looked at the kool seal site, they have increased their product line since I used it.
I am going to guess that you just want a top coating to reflect the heat, it will also protect and weatherize the roof.
That would be the
RV Rubber Roof TopCoat White Elastomeric
#63-900
The benefits of Kool Seal elastomerics for your RV or mobile home! Reflects up to 90% of the sun's rays to keep you cooler and save on energy costs.
Reflects 90% of the sun's rays
Keeps interior cooler and saves energy
Gives added protection, extends life of roof
Makes repairs blend in to look like new
Easy to apply with deep nap roller or brush
Dried film is mildew and algae resistant
Soap and water cleanup - while wet
I will mention before you get going, the KoolSeal does require minimum maintenance, once a year or two, you may have to clean it with a soft soap to clean any dirt off of it. The cleaner it is, the more it reflects. My roof lasted way over 10 years after application.
Do you have any seam issues??? Leaks??
They sell a cloth that you would saturate with KS over the seam, or around the brackets that hold the railing. you would make 2 or 3 applications, letting each application cure for a few hours. You saturate the cloth each time and by the time you are done, the cloth looks like a patch of rubber, it will expand and contract with any movement of the seam and seals the seam from water penetration.
They have some other items for leaks that are new products, I have not used them so I cannot vouch for them.
KS is an interesting product and I have had good luck with it on 2 sob's. I tried to just paint the GMC with Brite white paint but it still heats up so I am thinking in the KS direction.
Would be happy to chat if any questions...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156946 is a reply to message #156940] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 13:09 |
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Great info! There is a leak somewhere, I am guessing the TV antenna as
the caulking is shrinking a bit through there. So I'll replace that
first. The curve radius on the roof is quite large - about how far from
the edge (say the gutters) did you apply it?
Lowe's does carry it but I'll go have a look and see if this particular
one is carried by them.
Again, great info - thanks!
Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
"Tzetze Fly"
On 1/16/2012 1:48 PM, Larry C wrote:
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> I do favor use of KoolSeal on the roof, but not on the curve where it can be seen. Paint is the normal application for a GMC but KS will reflect the suns rays and heat where paint can't do that. That is what I think a GMCer would need it for. The surface inside the coach that has the KoolSeal above it will be cool to touch, even in the hot sun. ( I do not sell this product, I have used it and know what it can do. )
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> I just looked at the kool seal site, they have increased their product line since I used it.
>
> I am going to guess that you just want a top coating to reflect the heat, it will also protect and weatherize the roof.
>
> That would be the
>
> RV Rubber Roof TopCoat White Elastomeric
> #63-900
> The benefits of Kool Seal elastomerics for your RV or mobile home! Reflects up to 90% of the sun's rays to keep you cooler and save on energy costs.
>
> Reflects 90% of the sun's rays
> Keeps interior cooler and saves energy
> Gives added protection, extends life of roof
> Makes repairs blend in to look like new
> Easy to apply with deep nap roller or brush
> Dried film is mildew and algae resistant
> Soap and water cleanup - while wet
>
> I will mention before you get going, the KoolSeal does require minimum maintenance, once a year or two, you may have to clean it with a soft soap to clean any dirt off of it. The cleaner it is, the more it reflects. My roof lasted way over 10 years after application.
>
> Do you have any seam issues??? Leaks??
>
> They sell a cloth that you would saturate with KS over the seam, or around the brackets that hold the railing. you would make 2 or 3 applications, letting each application cure for a few hours. You saturate the cloth each time and by the time you are done, the cloth looks like a patch of rubber, it will expand and contract with any movement of the seam and seals the seam from water penetration.
>
> They have some other items for leaks that are new products, I have not used them so I cannot vouch for them.
>
> KS is an interesting product and I have had good luck with it on 2 sob's. I tried to just paint the GMC with Brite white paint but it still heats up so I am thinking in the KS direction.
>
> Would be happy to chat if any questions...
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>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156955 is a reply to message #156946] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 15:03 |
Larry C
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If you apply KoolSeal from the gutters it will be visible.
Newly applied, KoolSeal is dull bright white. It is much like a rubbery finish. But this rubbery finish will dull a bit over time and will collect some dirt. that is why they tell you to clean it on occasion.
I would apply it at the crest to the roof, out of eye sight to prevent any discoloration being seen from weathering.
I have thought of sealing the roof with a car top sealer but never did it as I sold the SOB. If the porus area were sealed I think the dirt would wash away with the rain.
I don't know of any reason that you cannot apply a sealer, read the label to confirm.
Hope this helps.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum [message #156973 is a reply to message #156856] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 16:51 |
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Black also gets rid of heat faster than shiny metal, once the sun goes down.
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Aluminum
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> I have found through various experiments that polished metals don't
> reflect heat as much as we'd like to think.
>
> AS for the roof, use cool seal on the top flat part, not over the curve
> that can be seen. In my uses, cool seal drops the suns heat dramatically
> where metal gets hot.
>
> If your sides are getting hot, put up shades outside, awnings, etc to
> block the sun. The metal is going to get hot and you will be no better
> off than you are now.
>
> Paint that black color over to BRITE WHITE for starts. That will help
> reflect a lot of heat. Not as good as shade from an awning but better
> then black, which by the way is used for solar heat collectors. Just
> thought I'd point that out.
>
>
> My thoughts
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