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Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156679] Sat, 14 January 2012 11:56 Go to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Found this site while searching for exterior paint for Aurora. It's UV , salt, corrosion resistant. Go to your dealer for pricing information Smile

http://www2.sherwin-williams.com/aerospace/jetglo.asp

Debbie.....



Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156732 is a reply to message #156679] Sat, 14 January 2012 22:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bernie is currently offline  bernie   Canada
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This is the paint on my Transmode:

http://www.spectrumcoatings.us/NEWFiles2007/Sico%2085285.pdf


Bernard GMC Transmode 1977 Montreal,Canada
Re: Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156745 is a reply to message #156732] Sun, 15 January 2012 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Bernard,

That paint looks interesting. Another brand of Aircraft paint to look into. We need to fix up some of the paint work on ours due to damage, hence the link in case anyone else is looking around for Aircraft paint. I believe the OEM paint was aircraft paint.
Not a paint expert, in fact i know hardly anything about it.....
But seems like a good idea to paint it with top quality paint, that resists UV, and stuff. Did you paint your own Bernard, or take the easy but expensive route....

The colours we want on body, eventually are, mint green, cream and light purple, but thats gonna be way in the future, so just wanting to patcch up , with Palm Beach Green for now.
Sherwin Williams can match the Palm Beach colours.Not sure on price but, it's only a small area that needs touching up.

cheers and beers :- Steve


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156803 is a reply to message #156745] Sun, 15 January 2012 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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S&D

The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.

J.R. Wright
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GMCMI
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On the road in Tucson

On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:06 AM, steve & debbie wrote:

>
>
> Hello Bernard,
>
> That paint looks interesting. Another brand of Aircraft paint to look into. We need to fix up some of the paint work on ours due to damage, hence the link in case anyone else is looking around for Aircraft paint. I believe the OEM paint was aircraft paint.
> Not a paint expert, in fact i know hardly anything about it.....
> But seems like a good idea to paint it with top quality paint, that resists UV, and stuff. Did you paint your own Bernard, or take the easy but expensive route....
>
> The colours we want on body, eventually are, mint green, cream and light purple, but thats gonna be way in the future, so just wanting to patcch up , with Palm Beach Green for now.
> Sherwin Williams can match the Palm Beach colours.Not sure on price but, it's only a small area that needs touching up.
>
> cheers and beers :- Steve
>
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156805 is a reply to message #156803] Sun, 15 January 2012 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 PM, John Wright wrote:

> S&D
>
> The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> GMCMI
> 77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan

Slight correction, John.
Imron is not epoxy It is a two part polyurethane paint. It uses isocynate as the catalyst which is a cyanide compound and very toxic and can kill one if you do not use proper respirators to apply it.


Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156807 is a reply to message #156805] Sun, 15 January 2012 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bryant374 is currently offline  bryant374   United States
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>
> The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.
>


Sorry, wrong TZE, it was 1975 not 1977 Imron replaced the earlier enamel.
Correct TZE is TZE165V100089.


Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
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Re: Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156810 is a reply to message #156679] Sun, 15 January 2012 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wasn't that great at organic chemistry, but I had looked this stuff up researching my chemical sensitivity issues. My parents had new windows (Anderson) put in their home last spring and I still can't enter the home without having a reation and have to leave. I think this may be in the caulks or foams that were used. That said, Imron was very durable and even if weathered badly will buff out to a gloss with very little material deposited on the buffing bonnet. I proved this on my 77.

"Methyl isocyanate (MIC) is extremely toxic. The threshold limit value set by the American Conference on Government Industrial Hygienist was 0.02 ppm. MIC can damage by inhalation, ingestion and contact in quantities as low as 0.4 ppm. Damage includes coughing, chest pain, dyspnea, asthma, irritation of the eyes, nose and throat, as well as skin damage. Higher levels of exposure, over 21 ppm, can result in pulmonary or lung edema, emphysema and hemorrhages, bronchial pneumonia and death. Although the odor of methyl isocyanate cannot be detected at 5 ppm by most people, its potent lachrymal properties provide an excellent warning of its presence (at a concentration of 2–4 parts per million (ppm) subject's eyes are irritated, while at 21 ppm, subjects could not tolerate the presence of methyl isocyanate in air).[14]

Proper care must be taken to store methyl isocyanate because of its ease of exothermically polymerizing (see Reactions) and its similar sensitivity to water. Only stainless steel or glass containers may be safely used; the MIC must be stored at temperatures below 40 °C (104 °F) and preferably at 4 °C (39 °F).

The toxic effect of the compound was apparent in the Bhopal disaster, when around 42,000 kilograms (93,000 lb) of methyl isocyanate and other gases were released from the underground reservoirs of Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) factory, over a populated area on December 3, 1984, immediately killing thousands and leading to the deaths of tens of thousands in subsequent weeks and months."



John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156833 is a reply to message #156807] Sun, 15 January 2012 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My bad, I had it written down on the note pad right but I fat fingered it on the email.
JR Wright

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Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156891 is a reply to message #156833] Mon, 16 January 2012 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello,
Interesting stuff on Imron paint, and other issues.
Scary that killing thousands of people, i never what to live anywhere near, a chemical plant thanks very much...
So guess i have Imron on my 77. It does polish up rather good, for 30 year old paint..... Would like to get it replaced with a paint as good as Imron. Last i heard about IMROM paint was "IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE".

Was trying to imagine a guy in a space suit, spraying a GMC Cool.

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156975 is a reply to message #156891] Mon, 16 January 2012 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glacierfl wrote on Sun, 15 January 2012 22:30

Hello,
Interesting stuff on Imron paint, and other issues.
Scary that killing thousands of people, i never what to live anywhere near, a chemical plant thanks very much...
So guess i have Imron on my 77. It does polish up rather good, for 30 year old paint..... Would like to get it replaced with a paint as good as Imron. Last i heard about IMROM paint was "IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE".

Was trying to imagine a guy in a space suit, spraying a GMC Cool.

cheers and beers



Got an Imron high many years ago shooting mine in my driveway wearing only a small mask. I guess I'm lucky too still be alive.


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156981 is a reply to message #156805] Mon, 16 January 2012 17:32 Go to previous message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Have you considered AlumiGrip from US Paint and Lacquer?  We shot a LOT of it onto airplanes in the 60s wearing a simple filter respirator.  And, while I always ascribed some of my peculiarities to various substances ingested for recreation in that era, maybe it was the paint.....
 
--johnny
'76 23' Transmode Norris
'76 Palm Beach


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On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 PM, John Wright wrote:

> S&D
>
> The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> GMCMI
> 77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan

Slight correction, John.
Imron is not epoxy  It is a two part polyurethane paint.  It uses isocynate as the catalyst which is a cyanide compound and very toxic and can kill one if you do not use proper respirators to apply it.


Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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