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Re: Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156745 is a reply to message #156732] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 03:06 |
glacierfl
Messages: 444 Registered: June 2011
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Hello Bernard,
That paint looks interesting. Another brand of Aircraft paint to look into. We need to fix up some of the paint work on ours due to damage, hence the link in case anyone else is looking around for Aircraft paint. I believe the OEM paint was aircraft paint.
Not a paint expert, in fact i know hardly anything about it.....
But seems like a good idea to paint it with top quality paint, that resists UV, and stuff. Did you paint your own Bernard, or take the easy but expensive route....
The colours we want on body, eventually are, mint green, cream and light purple, but thats gonna be way in the future, so just wanting to patcch up , with Palm Beach Green for now.
Sherwin Williams can match the Palm Beach colours.Not sure on price but, it's only a small area that needs touching up.
cheers and beers :- Steve
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156803 is a reply to message #156745] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 14:42 |
powerjon
Messages: 2446 Registered: January 2004
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S&D
The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMCMI
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On the road in Tucson
On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:06 AM, steve & debbie wrote:
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> Hello Bernard,
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> That paint looks interesting. Another brand of Aircraft paint to look into. We need to fix up some of the paint work on ours due to damage, hence the link in case anyone else is looking around for Aircraft paint. I believe the OEM paint was aircraft paint.
> Not a paint expert, in fact i know hardly anything about it.....
> But seems like a good idea to paint it with top quality paint, that resists UV, and stuff. Did you paint your own Bernard, or take the easy but expensive route....
>
> The colours we want on body, eventually are, mint green, cream and light purple, but thats gonna be way in the future, so just wanting to patcch up , with Palm Beach Green for now.
> Sherwin Williams can match the Palm Beach colours.Not sure on price but, it's only a small area that needs touching up.
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> cheers and beers :- Steve
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> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> EX G4WDT
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GMC Eastern States
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78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
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Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156807 is a reply to message #156805] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 16:14 |
bryant374
Messages: 563 Registered: May 2004 Location: Pleasant Valley, NY 12569
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> The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.
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Sorry, wrong TZE, it was 1975 not 1977 Imron replaced the earlier enamel.
Correct TZE is TZE165V100089.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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Re: Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156810 is a reply to message #156679] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 16:28 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447 Registered: October 2006 Location: Woodstock, IL
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I wasn't that great at organic chemistry, but I had looked this stuff up researching my chemical sensitivity issues. My parents had new windows (Anderson) put in their home last spring and I still can't enter the home without having a reation and have to leave. I think this may be in the caulks or foams that were used. That said, Imron was very durable and even if weathered badly will buff out to a gloss with very little material deposited on the buffing bonnet. I proved this on my 77.
"Methyl isocyanate (MIC) is extremely toxic. The threshold limit value set by the American Conference on Government Industrial Hygienist was 0.02 ppm. MIC can damage by inhalation, ingestion and contact in quantities as low as 0.4 ppm. Damage includes coughing, chest pain, dyspnea, asthma, irritation of the eyes, nose and throat, as well as skin damage. Higher levels of exposure, over 21 ppm, can result in pulmonary or lung edema, emphysema and hemorrhages, bronchial pneumonia and death. Although the odor of methyl isocyanate cannot be detected at 5 ppm by most people, its potent lachrymal properties provide an excellent warning of its presence (at a concentration of 2–4 parts per million (ppm) subject's eyes are irritated, while at 21 ppm, subjects could not tolerate the presence of methyl isocyanate in air).[14]
Proper care must be taken to store methyl isocyanate because of its ease of exothermically polymerizing (see Reactions) and its similar sensitivity to water. Only stainless steel or glass containers may be safely used; the MIC must be stored at temperatures below 40 °C (104 °F) and preferably at 4 °C (39 °F).
The toxic effect of the compound was apparent in the Bhopal disaster, when around 42,000 kilograms (93,000 lb) of methyl isocyanate and other gases were released from the underground reservoirs of Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) factory, over a populated area on December 3, 1984, immediately killing thousands and leading to the deaths of tens of thousands in subsequent weeks and months."
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint [message #156981 is a reply to message #156805] |
Mon, 16 January 2012 17:32 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Have you considered AlumiGrip from US Paint and Lacquer? We shot a LOT of it onto airplanes in the 60s wearing a simple filter respirator. And, while I always ascribed some of my peculiarities to various substances ingested for recreation in that era, maybe it was the paint.....
--johnny
'76 23' Transmode Norris
'76 Palm Beach
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From: Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Sherwin William Aircraft Paint
On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 PM, John Wright wrote:
> S&D
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> The early coaches were automotive enamel and then the finish was changed to "IMRON" Dupont Urethane (starting with coach serial# 167V100089) which is a epoxy two part paint and is very toxic and requires a full air suit to use today if you can find someone that will still shoot it.
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> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> GMCMI
> 77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
Slight correction, John.
Imron is not epoxy It is a two part polyurethane paint. It uses isocynate as the catalyst which is a cyanide compound and very toxic and can kill one if you do not use proper respirators to apply it.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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