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sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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For those who are interested I have updated the photo site with pictures of my completed rear suspension. I have filled a handful of orders for the Sullybilt air spring kits. The kits like the air springs are built when ordered. The air springs can take up to 3 weeks and the plate kits take up to 3 weeks as well depending upon selected finish. Complete information on the kits is posted at www.bdub.net/sully/ http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5972

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Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156595 is a reply to message #156581] Fri, 13 January 2012 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Fri, 13 January 2012 14:08

For those who are interested I have updated the photo site with pictures of my completed rear suspension. I have filled a handful of orders for the Sullybilt air spring kits. The kits like the air springs are built when ordered. The air springs can take up to 3 weeks and the plate kits take up to 3 weeks as well depending upon selected finish. Complete information on the kits is posted at www.bdub.net/sully/ http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5972



Nice job, Sully! The detailing looks really good. It's nice to have alternatives.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156597 is a reply to message #156581] Fri, 13 January 2012 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Sully,

The air bag looks great as does the rest of your work.
Changing up a little -- what did you do the to wheel well liners? They look new.

Dennis

sgltrac wrote on Fri, 13 January 2012 15:08

For those who are interested I have updated the photo site with pictures of my completed rear suspension. I have filled a handful of orders for the Sullybilt air spring kits. The kits like the air springs are built when ordered. The air springs can take up to 3 weeks and the plate kits take up to 3 weeks as well depending upon selected finish. Complete information on the kits is posted at www.bdub.net/sully/ http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5972



Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156599 is a reply to message #156581] Fri, 13 January 2012 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Fri, 13 January 2012 14:08

For those who are interested I have updated the photo site with pictures of my completed rear suspension. I have filled a handful of orders for the Sullybilt air spring kits. The kits like the air springs are built when ordered. The air springs can take up to 3 weeks and the plate kits take up to 3 weeks as well depending upon selected finish. Complete information on the kits is posted at www.bdub.net/sully/ http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5972

Very nice on all fronts!!


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156611 is a reply to message #156581] Fri, 13 January 2012 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you've done a great job with the design Sully. I am glad you decided to produce them. You did a much better job at it then I could have. Good luck with them.

Mark


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Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156630 is a reply to message #156581] Fri, 13 January 2012 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just asking since I haven't a clue about this....
Whats the advantages over stock?
What type of bag is needed?
Is it just for the plates, or the entire air,bag with plates?

Sorry just haven't a clue about this type of setup but would love more info.


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Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156634 is a reply to message #156630] Fri, 13 January 2012 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr.RadioActive wrote on Fri, 13 January 2012 22:20

Just asking since I haven't a clue about this....
Whats the advantages over stock?
About the same range of height as OEM with a bag that is still in production instead of one that is so old it is about to blow (even NIB and never been opened). Least expensive option that I am aware of.
Quote:

What type of bag is needed?
http://www.truckspring.com/products/Firestone-Reversible-Sleeve-Air-Spring__W01-358-9294.aspx
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Is it just for the plates, or the entire air,bag with plates?
Just the plates.
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156659 is a reply to message #156630] Sat, 14 January 2012 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr.RadioActive wrote on Fri, 13 January 2012 22:20

Just asking since I haven't a clue about this....
Whats the advantages over stock?
What type of bag is needed?
Is it just for the plates, or the entire air,bag with plates?

Sorry just haven't a clue about this type of setup but would love more info.


Go to this, it will answer most of your questions.
http://www.bdub.net/sully/


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156667 is a reply to message #156581] Sat, 14 January 2012 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perfect!

***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia- Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156800 is a reply to message #156581] Sun, 15 January 2012 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can anyone give a "head to head" comparison between the two OEM style replacements, the Sullybilt and the Single Cone (Fraley or Silvertone) system?

I am ready to pull the trigger this week.


Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Sullybilt air spring system [message #156814 is a reply to message #156800] Sun, 15 January 2012 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here it is
http://goo.gl/t18Do

a little out of date

for example the Dan Hensley bag is $300 each side, with,bag, shutoff and
schrader. down is limited to protect the wheel liners, and the up is not
listed.

gene


On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Randy <Acrosport2@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Can anyone give a "head to head" comparison between the two OEM style
> replacements, the Sullybilt and the Single Cone (Fraley or Silvertone)
> system?
>
> I am ready to pull the trigger this week.
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Re: [GMCnet] Sullybilt air spring system [message #156819 is a reply to message #156814] Sun, 15 January 2012 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there any data if one has the bag extenders? I'm wondering what
the lift and drop is if you are using a set of these. Thanks.
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Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156900 is a reply to message #156581] Mon, 16 January 2012 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Southland web site has them priced at $750 per pair, which seems like a pretty good deal.

Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156901 is a reply to message #156581] Mon, 16 January 2012 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does the bag utilized in the Sullybilt have an internal stop for those of us with 73 coaches that will go all the way down and bust the wheel well liner when flat?

Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156941 is a reply to message #156581] Mon, 16 January 2012 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've taken a close look at the pictures of both the Sullybilt and Southland systems. The biggest design difference I see is that the bracket on the Sullybilt system puts the load on the welded U-channel that is welded to the plate. The Southland system has a cone that appears to have a welded piece that transfers bogie loads through the cone.

The cone wasn't designed by accident, I think. For the bogie loads to be carried to the springs, you need something that is cast and the cone shape does that and accomodates the convoluted bag.

Should I be concerned in looking at the Sullybilt system that the weld is taking on so much load?


Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Sullybilt air spring system [message #156944 is a reply to message #156941] Mon, 16 January 2012 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A weld of that quality and quantity is as strong as the parent material
that surrounds it. It is probably sufficient to lift the entire coach off
the ground. I would not worry too much about it. I have held Sully's pieces
in my hand and looked them over well. They are a good piece of work. This
is my personal opinion, yours may vary.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Randy <Acrosport2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I've taken a close look at the pictures of both the Sullybilt and
> Southland systems. The biggest design difference I see is that the bracket
> on the Sullybilt system puts the load on the welded U-channel that is
> welded to the plate. The Southland system has a cone that appears to have a
> welded piece that transfers bogie loads through the cone.
>
> The cone wasn't designed by accident, I think. For the bogie loads to be
> carried to the springs, you need something that is cast and the cone shape
> does that and accomodates the convoluted bag.
>
> Should I be concerned in looking at the Sullybilt system that the weld is
> taking on so much load?
> --
> Randy
> 1973 26' Painted Desert
> Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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Re: Sullybilt air spring system [message #156951 is a reply to message #156941] Mon, 16 January 2012 14:20 Go to previous message
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Luvn737s wrote on Mon, 16 January 2012 12:56

I've taken a close look at the pictures of both the Sullybilt and Southland systems. The biggest design difference I see is that the bracket on the Sullybilt system puts the load on the welded U-channel that is welded to the plate. The Southland system has a cone that appears to have a welded piece that transfers bogie loads through the cone.

The cone wasn't designed by accident, I think. For the bogie loads to be carried to the springs, you need something that is cast and the cone shape does that and accommodates the convoluted bag.

Should I be concerned in looking at the Sullybilt system that the weld is taking on so much load?



No concern whatever. The load is all compression there. All the weld does is hold the pieces in place. He could have tack welded the 4 corners and achieved the same thing. He made full length welds to make it a quality piece. Forget the welds, they are not an issue.

I have never had one of these in my hands but from the pictures the brackets look like a quality piece.

Ken B.


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Hebron, Indiana
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