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Wed, 11 January 2012 18:20 |
glacierfl
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Hello,
Noticed that you can get stainless steel bar in 2" widths, and 12' lengths. Just pondering on using polished SS bar, for the sides instead of the plastic/rubber OEM stuff.
One would think it would look very classy, all polished up...
Wonder if anyone has used SS bar if so any photos ????
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156392 is a reply to message #156389] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 18:27 |
Kingsley Coach
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I have seen it, but don't have a pic ......I always thought it was like
putting Victoria Secret undies on Miss Piggy......just doesn't seem to work!
My opinion only ..<g>
Mike in NS
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> Noticed that you can get stainless steel bar in 2" widths, and 12'
> lengths. Just pondering on using polished SS bar, for the sides instead of
> the plastic/rubber OEM stuff.
> One would think it would look very classy, all polished up...
>
> Wonder if anyone has used SS bar if so any photos ????
>
> cheers and beers
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156393 is a reply to message #156389] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 18:53 |
Gary Worobec
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Hi, Not stainless but used the same size in aluminum. Rounded the edges with
a router then had them powder coated in silver to match the rest of the
beltline front and back. Applied a 7/8" rub strip in blue to cover the bolt
holes. Stainless would be a b**ch to work with on something like this. Lots
of holes to drill and the polishing would be tough unless it came
pre-polished which would cost you a fortune.
Here is a picture.
http://tinyurl.com/6vsxr9v
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve & debbie" <zzdebz@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ??
>
>
> Hello,
> Noticed that you can get stainless steel bar in 2" widths, and 12'
> lengths. Just pondering on using polished SS bar, for the sides instead of
> the plastic/rubber OEM stuff.
> One would think it would look very classy, all polished up...
>
> Wonder if anyone has used SS bar if so any photos ????
>
> cheers and beers
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156396 is a reply to message #156394] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 19:35 |
Gary Worobec
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Hey Rob,
1) Just a regular 1/4" radius 2 flute carbide cutter on a 3 hp router. I did
have to use a flap wheel to get rid of some of the cutter marks but no big
deal.
2) I have a router table where the router is mounted under the table and the
cutter sticks through. Then you set up a fence to keep the aluminum steady,
Not different than cutting wood. But wear safety glasses.
3). Yes, I actually used flathead 1/4" x 20 SS bolts and used aluminum
nutserts in all the old holes. I only sealed the top edge of the trim
because that way any water that does somehow get in there will run out the
bottom. Nutserts from http://www.hansonrivet.com/ in L.A. They have got all
sizes and the 1/4" tool to install them.
The trim is from http://tinyurl.com/89o8fs8 . I think I used the C600.
There are two cute gals who own the place that can help. It comes in all
colors. I used 7/8" wide as the counterbore for a 1/4" 20 flathead is 3/4 in
diameter.
I got the aluminum from http://tinyurl.com/7qfwx7d. These are my favorite
metal guys. I used to buy from a metal recycle place but they would never
cut anything and I have all sorts of extra pieces lying around. IMS will cut
to size free so no waste.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ??
Gary,
That is the best looking belt line trim job I have ever seen on a GMC! It's
so nice I'm going to steal it!
Your '73 Glacier used the same belt line extrusion as my '75 Avion. I've
removed the OEM trim and found that there are lot of places
where water could be leaking in.
Some questions:
1) What kind of router blade did you use to achieve that nice radius?
2) How did you hold a 20' (+) x 2" piece of aluminum strip down to radius
it?
3) I assume there are screws under the blue trim strip did you use a sealer
between the strip & the coach?
Any additional tips greatly appreciated!
Regards,
Rob M
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Worobec
Hi, Not stainless but used the same size in aluminum. Rounded the edges with
a router then had them powder coated in silver to match the rest of the
beltline front and back. Applied a 7/8" rub strip in blue to cover the bolt
holes. Stainless would be a b**ch to work with on something like this. Lots
of holes to drill and the polishing would be tough unless it came
pre-polished which would cost you a fortune.
Here is a picture.
http://tinyurl.com/6vsxr9v
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156398 is a reply to message #156396] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 19:49 |
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USAussie
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Gary,
Wow, with all that info I should be able to find what I need for The Blue Streak here in Aus and Double Trouble in the USA, no
worries!
Thanks,
Rob M.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Worobec
Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:35 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ??
Hey Rob,
1) Just a regular 1/4" radius 2 flute carbide cutter on a 3 hp router. I did
have to use a flap wheel to get rid of some of the cutter marks but no big
deal.
2) I have a router table where the router is mounted under the table and the
cutter sticks through. Then you set up a fence to keep the aluminum steady,
Not different than cutting wood. But wear safety glasses.
3). Yes, I actually used flathead 1/4" x 20 SS bolts and used aluminum
nutserts in all the old holes. I only sealed the top edge of the trim
because that way any water that does somehow get in there will run out the
bottom. Nutserts from http://www.hansonrivet.com/ in L.A. They have got all
sizes and the 1/4" tool to install them.
The trim is from http://tinyurl.com/89o8fs8 . I think I used the C600.
There are two cute gals who own the place that can help. It comes in all
colors. I used 7/8" wide as the counterbore for a 1/4" 20 flathead is 3/4 in
diameter.
I got the aluminum from http://tinyurl.com/7qfwx7d. These are my favorite
metal guys. I used to buy from a metal recycle place but they would never
cut anything and I have all sorts of extra pieces lying around. IMS will cut
to size free so no waste.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ??
Gary,
That is the best looking belt line trim job I have ever seen on a GMC! It's
so nice I'm going to steal it!
Your '73 Glacier used the same belt line extrusion as my '75 Avion. I've
removed the OEM trim and found that there are lot of places
where water could be leaking in.
Some questions:
1) What kind of router blade did you use to achieve that nice radius?
2) How did you hold a 20' (+) x 2" piece of aluminum strip down to radius
it?
3) I assume there are screws under the blue trim strip did you use a sealer
between the strip & the coach?
Any additional tips greatly appreciated!
Regards,
Rob M
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Worobec
Hi, Not stainless but used the same size in aluminum. Rounded the edges with
a router then had them powder coated in silver to match the rest of the
beltline front and back. Applied a 7/8" rub strip in blue to cover the bolt
holes. Stainless would be a b**ch to work with on something like this. Lots
of holes to drill and the polishing would be tough unless it came
pre-polished which would cost you a fortune.
Here is a picture.
http://tinyurl.com/6vsxr9v
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Re: stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156401 is a reply to message #156389] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 20:01 |
GeorgeRud
Messages: 1380 Registered: February 2007 Location: Chicago, IL
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Really looks great! I couldn't get the link to the metal supplier to work, if you have their name, I can google it.
Is it one continuous piece or did you make it up from several shorter pieces?
Definitely a look worth stealing, hope you don't mind!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156405 is a reply to message #156400] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 20:30 |
Gary Worobec
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No bondo, thats just the way it was. Mine is a 73 but I don't think anything
changed??
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
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From: "steve & debbie" <zzdebz@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ??
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> Hello,
>
> Points taken on using SS, love the parallel with miss piggy. :d
> Did not know SS was expensive polished. Was considering polishing myself,
> but seems its going to look a little too
> snazzy..... I did think about cutting out for lights, would be a pain in
> the, due to the hardness of it .....
>
> Your beltline looks very nice, a very professional job.
>
> On the pictures you posted i noticed the area around the coach body is
> rounded to the beltline, what was used to get this profile bondo or ????
>
> Thanks guys for the opinions and help on this.
>
> cheers and beers
>
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> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156408 is a reply to message #156406] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 20:43 |
glacierfl
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Hello,
"No bondo, thats just the way it was. Mine is a 73 but I don't think anything changed??.
Thats odd, the alum strips on my 77 palm beach look like a bar, with some kind of sealant between that and the body. Does not have that nice curve ike yours. SO wonder if it was changed at some point ???
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156412 is a reply to message #156393] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 21:12 |
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Man, that it top drawer.
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Gary Worobec wrote:
> Hi, Not stainless but used the same size in aluminum. Rounded the edges with
> a router then had them powder coated in silver to match the rest of the
> beltline front and back. Applied a 7/8" rub strip in blue to cover the bolt
> holes. Stainless would be a b**ch to work with on something like this. Lots
> of holes to drill and the polishing would be tough unless it came
> pre-polished which would cost you a fortune.
>
> Here is a picture.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6vsxr9v
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156422 is a reply to message #156420] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 21:50 |
glacierfl
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Hello,
"Later versions (77 -78) had slots on the top and bottom of the extrusion that the aluminum sheet and fiberglass panels would slip into. I GUESS that the panels were glued in and didn't need pop rivets."
How would that affect taking the alum strips off on a 77 ???.
Are they screwed on, or glued ???. After finding out some are different then, don't want no surprises, when i reseal behind those.
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156642 is a reply to message #156422] |
Sat, 14 January 2012 00:11 |
glacierfl
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Robert,
I am now confused a little. If as you suggest they are not removable, then how do you reseal them, or is that not possible ??. Sorry if i am seeming to be a little bit backwards on this !!!
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156647 is a reply to message #156642] |
Sat, 14 January 2012 01:11 |
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Steve,
Download the Parts Book 78Z here: http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html and save a copy on your PC for future reference.
See page 23-14 Key 27 - Beam, belt rail - This is the part that cannot be removed it is welded into the body frame.
See page 23-95 Key 7 - Rail - rub - This is rubber and held to the beam with double sided pressure sensitive tape.
The early coaches were different.
See page 23-92 Key 1 - Moulding - This part is stainless steel, is screwed into the beam above, and can be removed.
See page 23-92 Key 6 - Rail assembly - This is rubber and must be pulled out of Key 1 to access the screws that hold the moulding
on.
Does it make sense now?
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: steve & debbie
Robert,
I am now confused a little. If as you suggest they are not removable, then how do you reseal them, or is that not possible ??. Sorry
if i am seeming to be a little bit backwards on this !!!
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Re: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ?? [message #156657 is a reply to message #156393] |
Sat, 14 January 2012 07:13 |
Steven Ferguson
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Very nice Gary. As many times as I have been next to your coach, that is
one detail I have not noticed.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gary Worobec <gtw5@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi, Not stainless but used the same size in aluminum. Rounded the edges
> with
> a router then had them powder coated in silver to match the rest of the
> beltline front and back. Applied a 7/8" rub strip in blue to cover the bolt
> holes. Stainless would be a b**ch to work with on something like this. Lots
> of holes to drill and the polishing would be tough unless it came
> pre-polished which would cost you a fortune.
>
> Here is a picture.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6vsxr9v
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steve & debbie" <zzdebz@yahoo.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:20 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] stainless steel belt line ??
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > Noticed that you can get stainless steel bar in 2" widths, and 12'
> > lengths. Just pondering on using polished SS bar, for the sides instead
> of
> > the plastic/rubber OEM stuff.
> > One would think it would look very classy, all polished up...
> >
> > Wonder if anyone has used SS bar if so any photos ????
> >
> > cheers and beers
> > --
> > Steve & Debbie
> > Monticello, FL
> > 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
> > EX G4WDT
> > _______________________________________________
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