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USAussie
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G'day,
Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
materials.
Leaks can't damage it.
Regards,
Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156125 is a reply to message #156111] |
Mon, 09 January 2012 18:24  |
UziYaH
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G'day Rob,
Thanks for broaching the subject, ...as I am contemplating replacing the water damaged side panels of our coach. What to use? Patterns? Place to go for more information?
We'd like to use light colored material to offset our dark ceiling and cabinets. Plastic sounds feasible. Considering port and starboard salon area only. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, ....Howard Nylander
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
G'day,
Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
materials.
Leaks can't damage it.
Regards,
Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156127 is a reply to message #156125] |
Mon, 09 January 2012 18:43 |
Dennis S
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Howard
The beige FRP panels from Lowes would be a nice complementary color.
4x8 sheets about $30.
Dennis
| UziYaH wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 18:24 |
G'day Rob,
Thanks for broaching the subject, ...as I am contemplating replacing the water damaged side panels of our coach. What to use? Patterns? Place to go for more information?
We'd like to use light colored material to offset our dark ceiling and cabinets. Plastic sounds feasible. Considering port and starboard salon area only. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, ....Howard Nylander
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
G'day,
Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
materials.
Leaks can't damage it.
Regards,
Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156129 is a reply to message #156125] |
Mon, 09 January 2012 18:45 |
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USAussie
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Howard,
Funny, I was thinking of your beautiful ceiling when I wrote the "disclaimer" part of my email! ;-)
When I was looking into headliner / side panel materials I found this company:
http://www.koemmerling.com/ecomaXL/index.php?site=KOE_EN_koematex
From what I remember this seemed to be the best stuff out there. I might be biased since they are Krauts!
Having said that Tom Eckert is probably the go to guy on this stuff, he uses it in is business.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Nylander
G'day Rob,
Thanks for broaching the subject, ...as I am contemplating replacing the water damaged side panels of our coach. What to use?
Patterns? Place to go for more information?
We'd like to use light colored material to offset our dark ceiling and cabinets. Plastic sounds feasible. Considering port and
starboard salon area only. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, ....Howard Nylander
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
G'day,
Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
materials.
Leaks can't damage it.
Regards,
Rob M.
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156136 is a reply to message #156127] |
Mon, 09 January 2012 19:17 |
george beck
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Yes Howard I used the panels mentioned FRP in beige in the dinette and couch area looks vg.
beebo
73 Sequoia 26"
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From: Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
Howard
The beige FRP panels from Lowes would be a nice complementary color.
4x8 sheets about $30.
Dennis
UziYaH wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 18:24
> G'day Rob,
>
>
> Thanks for broaching the subject, ...as I am contemplating replacing the water damaged side panels of our coach. What to use? Patterns? Place to go for more information?
>
> We'd like to use light colored material to offset our dark ceiling and cabinets. Plastic sounds feasible. Considering port and starboard salon area only. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, ....Howard Nylander
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:12 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
>
> G'day,
>
> Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
> materials.
>
> Leaks can't damage it.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
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Germantown, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156141 is a reply to message #156136] |
Mon, 09 January 2012 19:24 |
Len Novak
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I did some white ABS plastic with a pebble I got from a company in National
City on the advice from Arch
Bullet proof!
Len and Pat
1978 Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of george beck
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:17 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
Yes Howard I used the panels mentioned FRP in beige in the dinette and couch
area looks vg.
beebo
73 Sequoia 26"
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From: Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
Howard
The beige FRP panels from Lowes would be a nice complementary color.
4x8 sheets about $30.
Dennis
UziYaH wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 18:24
> G'day Rob,
>
>
> Thanks for broaching the subject, ...as I am contemplating replacing the
water damaged side panels of our coach. What to use? Patterns? Place to go
for more information?
>
> We'd like to use light colored material to offset our dark ceiling and
cabinets. Plastic sounds feasible. Considering port and starboard salon area
only. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, ....Howard Nylander
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:12 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
>
> G'day,
>
> Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I
would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
> materials.
>
> Leaks can't damage it.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
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1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156225 is a reply to message #156141] |
Tue, 10 January 2012 12:04 |
Alan LaVoisne
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I used the FRP Panels and it came out great. Not the easiest to work with
but not impossible either.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Len <B52Rule@adelphia.net> wrote:
> I did some white ABS plastic with a pebble I got from a company in National
> City on the advice from Arch
> Bullet proof!
>
> Len and Pat
> 1978 Kingsley
>
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of george beck
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:17 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
>
> Yes Howard I used the panels mentioned FRP in beige in the dinette and
> couch
> area looks vg.
> beebo
> 73 Sequoia 26"
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
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> Howard
> The beige FRP panels from Lowes would be a nice complementary color.
> 4x8 sheets about $30.
>
> Dennis
>
> UziYaH wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 18:24
> > G'day Rob,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for broaching the subject, ...as I am contemplating replacing the
> water damaged side panels of our coach. What to use? Patterns? Place to go
> for more information?
> >
> > We'd like to use light colored material to offset our dark ceiling and
> cabinets. Plastic sounds feasible. Considering port and starboard salon
> area
> only. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Regards, ....Howard Nylander
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:12 PM
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
> >
> > G'day,
> >
> > Not to criticize the material selected for headliners or side panels I
> would like to point out one major advantage of plastic
> > materials.
> >
> > Leaks can't damage it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156226 is a reply to message #156225] |
Tue, 10 January 2012 12:48 |
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http://www.koemmerling.com/ecomaXL/index.php?site=KOE_EN_koematex
Koematex is a plastic designed for outdoor signage. It comes in a basic off-white, in many metric thickness. It is also available in 12 different colors. The colored material is probably too thick to make a neat headliner. but would be an excellent side panel product. The finish is a matte surface.
If you call them, they may send you samples. I picked up samples at a commercial show. You may have to drive to get the material. Here in the Wash, D.C. the only suppliers are in Baltimore or Richmond.
I hope Tom Eckhart will pop in on this subject. If he is using it commercially, He may be able to point us to a supplier.
Tom Phipps,
MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156228 is a reply to message #156226] |
Tue, 10 January 2012 13:31 |
gmcrv1
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Tom,
Good work. It is great stuff, I think Sintra (competing product) comes in
colors even in the 4mil (~1/8") thickness. Some of the colors are not
stocked in all thicknesses but are available. I do have an old color ring
that contains, dark & light green, dark & light blue, dark & light grey,
dark & light yellow, red, black, orange, white, beige and purple. All are
4 mil samples. These are from Kommerling USA INC. and the product name is
"Komatex".
www.kommerlingusa.com
800 330 2239
The major suppliers/distributors are located throughout the country. If
anyone is interested, just let me know. I have a list of general sign
material suppliers that is about ten pages long. Send me your city/state
and I will reply with three or four suppliers - don't PM as others may want
to contact the same suppliers. I am not sure if you will need an account
to purchase, but it has been my experience that if you want to buy it -
they will sell it. If you are doing all the side panels and the ceiling
you are probably looking at 8 sheets or more.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> http://www.koemmerling.com/ecomaXL/index.php?site=KOE_EN_koematex
>
> Koematex is a plastic designed for outdoor signage. It comes in a basic
> off-white, in many metric thickness. It is also available in 12 different
> colors. The colored material is probably too thick to make a neat
> headliner. but would be an excellent side panel product. The finish is a
> matte surface.
> If you call them, they may send you samples. I picked up samples at a
> commercial show. You may have to drive to get the material. Here in the
> Wash, D.C. the only suppliers are in Baltimore or Richmond.
> I hope Tom Eckhart will pop in on this subject. If he is using it
> commercially, He may be able to point us to a supplier.
>
> Tom Phipps,
> MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156246 is a reply to message #156111] |
Tue, 10 January 2012 15:16 |
GeorgeRud
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I used Komatex for my side and ceiling panels, and couldn't have been happier with the results.
Easy to work with and waterproof were major selling points, and at $30/panel, they seemed reasonably priced. My coach had the side panels converted to the pebble grained plastic when I bought it, and I didn't like the look of the plastic.
When I dropped the original, cardboard ceiling panel, I couldn't believe how much mold was found on the upper surface. Now it's nice and clean, and any leaks won't affect it.
The only downside is that I don't think you can apply a fabric type of headliner as it probably wouldn't stick to the surface. Some folks are more concerned about sound suppression, so that may be a downside for some folks.
Enjoy your project in good health!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material [message #156262 is a reply to message #156246] |
Tue, 10 January 2012 16:04 |
UziYaH
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Thank you all for your kind responses and information, much of which I have saved to file for future reference. You have given me many great ideas. Now if I can only get a round tuwit. Anyone know were I can find a 'round tuwit'? : )
Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78'
Greeneville, Tn.
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From: George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headliner / side panel material
I used Komatex for my side and ceiling panels, and couldn't have been happier with the results.
Easy to work with and waterproof were major selling points, and at $30/panel, they seemed reasonably priced. My coach had the side panels converted to the pebble grained plastic when I bought it, and I didn't like the look of the plastic.
When I dropped the original, cardboard ceiling panel, I couldn't believe how much mold was found on the upper surface. Now it's nice and clean, and any leaks won't affect it.
The only downside is that I don't think you can apply a fabric type of headliner as it probably wouldn't stick to the surface. Some folks are more concerned about sound suppression, so that may be a downside for some folks.
Enjoy your project in good health!
--
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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