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[GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155647] Thu, 05 January 2012 22:51 Go to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey All;

What oil should I use in this Kipor generator? I'm thinking about a
30wt Valvoline (or Napa), but can I use a synthetic oil?

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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155675 is a reply to message #155647] Fri, 06 January 2012 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Berry wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 23:51

Hey All;

What oil should I use in this Kipor generator? I'm thinking about a 30wt Valvoline (or Napa), but can I use a synthetic oil?

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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.

Gary,

I have never even looked a a Kipor anything, but as far as oils go, I think I know enough about engines to tell you that a synthetic will do just fine. It really makes little difference what the manual says (once it is out of warranty) because the synthetic lube oils are so much more robust than the dino oils that almost nothing applies.

Synthetic is all I use in my stable of little engines that get alternately ignored and abused. I have had no lubrication issues since I changed.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155687 is a reply to message #155647] Fri, 06 January 2012 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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Matt,
I knew there was some reason I like you. We apparently share the same small engine philosophy of ignore and abuse. I treat them to synthetic oil, but then only change it every 5 years or so. I have way too much stuff to work on, to be kind to a lawnmower . . .


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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155764 is a reply to message #155647] Fri, 06 January 2012 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Berry wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 21:51

Hey All;

What oil should I use in this Kipor generator? I'm thinking about a
30wt Valvoline (or Napa), but can I use a synthetic oil?

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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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I have 3 of them and use what is in the owner's manual.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155786 is a reply to message #155764] Fri, 06 January 2012 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Bob;

The User's Manual did say "Use a high-detergent, premium quality
4-stroke engine oil, certified to meet or exceed U.S. automobile
manufacturer's requirements for API Service Classification SG/SF." I
was just looking for a recommendation from others on what they had
used. Luckily others did that, and I did get some synthetic oil. I've
started it, and it seems to run good. Tested it with my reciprocating
saw (now I can trim some trees that are too far away from electrical
outlets) and it seems to be working fine.
-- Gary and Diana Berry73 CL Stretch in Wa.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
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> I have 3 of them and use what is in the owner's manual.
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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155832 is a reply to message #155786] Sat, 07 January 2012 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Berry wrote on Fri, 06 January 2012 21:10

Hey Bob;

The User's Manual did say "Use a high-detergent, premium quality
4-stroke engine oil, certified to meet or exceed U.S. automobile
manufacturer's requirements for API Service Classification SG/SF." I
was just looking for a recommendation from others on what they had
used. Luckily others did that, and I did get some synthetic oil. I've
started it, and it seems to run good. Tested it with my reciprocating
saw (now I can trim some trees that are too far away from electrical
outlets) and it seems to be working fine.
-- Gary and Diana Berry73 CL Stretch in Wa.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
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> I have 3 of them and use what is in the owner's manual.
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You won't go wrong with that. I love these things to the point that I started buying inoperative units and fixing them. I think you will be very happy. BTW, if there is anything I would be cautious about is hurting the inverter since that item costs as much as the generator. So, I would minimize overloads, and as much as possible, remove any loads before starting or shutting down.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155835 is a reply to message #155832] Sat, 07 January 2012 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Bob;

Would it be a good idea to pickup a spare inverter (is this the
weak point) just in case??

GaryB

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

> You won't go wrong with that. I love these things to the point that I started buying inoperative units and fixing them. I think you will be very happy. BTW, if there is anything I would be cautious about is hurting the inverter since that item costs as much as the generator. So, I would minimize overloads, and as much as possible, remove any loads before starting or shutting down.
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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155838 is a reply to message #155647] Sat, 07 January 2012 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good luck finding the higher ZDDP 'SF' oil the manual states at the Auto Parts store, as that is from cira 1987. You can find it maybe as air cooled small engine oil or as hardware store branded oil. There are alternatives like Brad Penn, Harley Davidson, or using modern SN and adding a ZDDP additive. Even most of the Syns out there now are SN with some SM still hiding on the shelves. (Exception being like Moble 1 for air cooled). Or use the Kipor OEM oil if they make one.

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Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155858 is a reply to message #155835] Sat, 07 January 2012 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Berry wrote on Sat, 07 January 2012 11:56

Hey Bob;

Would it be a good idea to pickup a spare inverter (is this the
weak point) just in case??

GaryB

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

> You won't go wrong with that. I love these things to the point that I started buying inoperative units and fixing them. I think you will be very happy. BTW, if there is anything I would be cautious about is hurting the inverter since that item costs as much as the generator. So, I would minimize overloads, and as much as possible, remove any loads before starting or shutting down.
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They run about $460 so it's not an attractive alternative.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155859 is a reply to message #155838] Sat, 07 January 2012 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnL455 wrote on Sat, 07 January 2012 15:00

Good luck finding the higher ZDDP 'SF' oil the manual states at the Auto Parts store, as that is from cira 1987. You can find it maybe as air cooled small engine oil or as hardware store branded oil. There are alternatives like Brad Penn, Harley Davidson, or using modern SN and adding a ZDDP additive. Even most of the Syns out there now are SN with some SM still hiding on the shelves. (Exception being like Moble 1 for air cooled). Or use the Kipor OEM oil if they make one.


Get the cheapest s..t that you can find at Walmart and try enjoying life. I had no idea ZDDP hysteria was so prevalent. These units are current production technology and don't need ZDDP, nor does anything else for that matter.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Kipor Generator Oil [message #155936 is a reply to message #155647] Sun, 08 January 2012 13:15 Go to previous message
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Just going off of the owners manual quote where it said SG/SF. Those Chinese lifters and cam better be roller type as their track record with fake GM hydrolic lifters ( non roller) is not so stellar.



John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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