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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154110 is a reply to message #154103] |
Thu, 22 December 2011 20:48   |
glacierfl
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Hello,
Yeah love that solar panel
1:- Wonder if you could fit them on the sides of the GMC.
Perhaps that would get sunlight when the sun is lower in sky.
2:- If it rolls up you could roll it out when needed
Well worth looking into, as a solar option.
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154111 is a reply to message #154104] |
Thu, 22 December 2011 20:56 |
Ken Burton
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I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using for years in our airplanes.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154114 is a reply to message #154111] |
Thu, 22 December 2011 21:05 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
Now this reminds me of a training session at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, IL. They took us out to a B-52 and showed us around the
aircraft. One of the guys was up in the tail gunners compartment and picked up this black tapered funnel with a hose attached to it
and put it up against his mouth and called "tail gunner to pilot, tail gunner to pilot." The instructor laughed and noted that he
doubted that he would get an answer as he was talking into the "P" tube! Much coughing, hacking, and spitting ensued!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton
I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using
for years in our airplanes.
Ken
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154119 is a reply to message #154114] |
Thu, 22 December 2011 22:17 |
k2gkk
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It's probably hard for most people to realize how
little room there is inside a B-52!
If you were more than about 5 feet 7 inches tall,
you had to bend your upper body over to position
yourself at the "relief" tube which was contained
in a cylinder about six or seven inches in diameter
that had a funnel at the top of it. Most of ours
(B-52F) at Carswell AFB, TX (NW of Ft Worth) had a
small sign put there by the ground maintenance folks
that said, "We aim to please, sir. Would you also
aim too, please, sir?" Corrosion of aluminum happens
quite rapidly in the presence of urine!
I guess I had some 1600 hours aloft in those birds
back in 63-66.
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:05:58 +1100
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose
>
> Ken,
>
> Now this reminds me of a training session at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, IL. They took us out to a B-52 and showed us around the
> aircraft. One of the guys was up in the tail gunners compartment and picked up this black tapered funnel with a hose attached to it
> and put it up against his mouth and called "tail gunner to pilot, tail gunner to pilot." The instructor laughed and noted that he
> doubted that he would get an answer as he was talking into the "P" tube! Much coughing, hacking, and spitting ensued!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Burton
>
> I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using
> for years in our airplanes.
>
> Ken
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154128 is a reply to message #154119] |
Thu, 22 December 2011 23:17 |
Ken Burton
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They should have made them out of one of those red round PLASTIC ketchup bottles like we do in General Aviation. They do not corrode.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154165 is a reply to message #154119] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 11:16 |
James Hupy
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Funny that the Military should spend all that money developing the High
Altitude Coffee Maker that they used in the B.U.F.F.s and no way to elinate
the waste it created.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:17 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> It's probably hard for most people to realize how
> little room there is inside a B-52!
>
> If you were more than about 5 feet 7 inches tall,
> you had to bend your upper body over to position
> yourself at the "relief" tube which was contained
> in a cylinder about six or seven inches in diameter
> that had a funnel at the top of it. Most of ours
> (B-52F) at Carswell AFB, TX (NW of Ft Worth) had a
> small sign put there by the ground maintenance folks
> that said, "We aim to please, sir. Would you also
> aim too, please, sir?" Corrosion of aluminum happens
> quite rapidly in the presence of urine!
>
> I guess I had some 1600 hours aloft in those birds
> back in 63-66.
>
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> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> > From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:05:58 +1100
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Now this reminds me of a training session at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, IL.
> They took us out to a B-52 and showed us around the
> > aircraft. One of the guys was up in the tail gunners compartment and
> picked up this black tapered funnel with a hose attached to it
> > and put it up against his mouth and called "tail gunner to pilot, tail
> gunner to pilot." The instructor laughed and noted that he
> > doubted that he would get an answer as he was talking into the "P" tube!
> Much coughing, hacking, and spitting ensued!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Burton
> >
> > I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut
> out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using
> > for years in our airplanes.
> >
> > Ken
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154168 is a reply to message #154114] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 11:30 |
James Hupy
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My wife Mary's Uncle Kenny was a WW 2 fighter jock. P-38 Lightnings in the
south Pacific Theatre. He loved to fly, and once had the occasion to spread
some ashes of a deceased person over the Oregon Cascades. He had an
accomplice in this endeavor. The trick was that the container that
contained the remains was supposed to open only after it exited the plane.
Didn't quite work that way. When they opened the door to the plane, the
prop wash blew the lid off the container and the ashes created a mini dust
storm inside the plane. He promptly flew back to the Hermiston Air strip,
put a fresh bag in the vacuum cleaner and cleaned up the remains of the
remains and tried a second time with much better success. I was not present
for this deal, I can't testify under oath if it is all or even partly true,
but the store was retold at Mary's family reunions for years. This is the
same uncle Kenny that shot himself through the knee with a .45 auto
practicing quick draws with his equally crazy brother Marvin. I know this
is true because I was the one that patched him up. (In Oregon, if you go to
the ER with a gunshot wound, the cops are always notified, and charges are
often filed as a result.) His wound was a through and through, it hit
nothing vital. Couldn't have surgically placed the wound any better. Yes,
alcohol was a big factor in this one. Me included. Merry Christmas to all
of you GMCers out there. We have big plans for the Eve and the Day. Keep
warm and take time to love one another.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Now this reminds me of a training session at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, IL.
> They took us out to a B-52 and showed us around the
> aircraft. One of the guys was up in the tail gunners compartment and
> picked up this black tapered funnel with a hose attached to it
> and put it up against his mouth and called "tail gunner to pilot, tail
> gunner to pilot." The instructor laughed and noted that he
> doubted that he would get an answer as he was talking into the "P" tube!
> Much coughing, hacking, and spitting ensued!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Burton
>
> I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut
> out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using
> for years in our airplanes.
>
> Ken
>
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| [GMCnet] B-52 Tales / O.T. (was: RE: heated water hose) [message #154175 is a reply to message #154165] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 12:07 |
k2gkk
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It's been way too many years ago, but I think we
just had a regular large coffee percolator that
just sat at the right rear of the pressurized crew
compartment. Since the aircraft was pressurized
there probably was no need for a "special" pot.
One February morning, about an hour into a long
flight, the A/C system went to full cold. Since we
were at something like 40,000 feet and it was
already about -50F outside, it was damned cold
inside the big sausage! Our command post, the
one at SAC Hq and also Boeing got into the act.
They finally decided that we could do nothing
to help the situation.
While waiting for that decision, we descended to
10,000 or below and depressurized in case a
crew member COULD do something in the bomb bay.
The coffee make was put on the navigator's table
to allow access to the hatch to the bomb bay.
When the aircraft was depressurized, our cabin
altitude went instantly from about 4,000 feet to
10,000 feet. With that drop in atmospheric pressure,
the contents of the coffee maker instantly went to
way above boiling and erupted all over the nav table
AND the navigator!
We finally put the aircraft into a "dirty" condition
with flaps down and proceeded to burn off fuel for
about 5 hours to get down to a safe landing weight.
It was good that our bombardier still had all the
arctic clothing in his A3 bag from his days in the
B-36. We divvied his up stuff to stay warm until
we could get home.
A VERY long "short" day, for sure.
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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:16:17 -0800
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose
>
> Funny that the Military should spend all that money developing the High
> Altitude Coffee Maker that they used in the B.U.F.F.s and no way to elinate
> the waste it created.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:17 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > It's probably hard for most people to realize how
> > little room there is inside a B-52!
> >
> > If you were more than about 5 feet 7 inches tall,
> > you had to bend your upper body over to position
> > yourself at the "relief" tube which was contained
> > in a cylinder about six or seven inches in diameter
> > that had a funnel at the top of it. Most of ours
> > (B-52F) at Carswell AFB, TX (NW of Ft Worth) had a
> > small sign put there by the ground maintenance folks
> > that said, "We aim to please, sir. Would you also
> > aim too, please, sir?" Corrosion of aluminum happens
> > quite rapidly in the presence of urine!
> >
> > I guess I had some 1600 hours aloft in those birds
> > back in 63-66.
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> > > From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:05:58 +1100
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose
> > >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Now this reminds me of a training session at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, IL.
> > They took us out to a B-52 and showed us around the
> > > aircraft. One of the guys was up in the tail gunners compartment and
> > picked up this black tapered funnel with a hose attached to it
> > > and put it up against his mouth and called "tail gunner to pilot, tail
> > gunner to pilot." The instructor laughed and noted that he
> > > doubted that he would get an answer as he was talking into the "P" tube!
> > Much coughing, hacking, and spitting ensued!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rob M.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ken Burton
> > >
> > > I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut
> > out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using
> > > for years in our airplanes.
> > >
> > > Ken
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| Re: [GMCnet] B-52 Tales / O.T. (was: RE: heated water hose) [message #154178 is a reply to message #154175] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 14:04 |
Len Novak
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I have about 3,000 hours in F,G, and H models but most of my time is in the G virtually all the bombardier (radar navigator).
There was something called a "Hot Cup", one downstairs, one upstairs. As`I remember it had to have some liquid or semi liquid stuff in it to work properly. The WARNING said if you ran it empty, it could explode.
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Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA
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---- D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's been way too many years ago, but I think we
> just had a regular large coffee percolator that
> just sat at the right rear of the pressurized crew
> compartment. Since the aircraft was pressurized
> there probably was no need for a "special" pot.
>
> One February morning, about an hour into a long
> flight, the A/C system went to full cold. Since we
> were at something like 40,000 feet and it was
> already about -50F outside, it was damned cold
> inside the big sausage! Our command post, the
> one at SAC Hq and also Boeing got into the act.
> They finally decided that we could do nothing
> to help the situation.
>
> While waiting for that decision, we descended to
> 10,000 or below and depressurized in case a
> crew member COULD do something in the bomb bay.
>
> The coffee make was put on the navigator's table
> to allow access to the hatch to the bomb bay.
>
> When the aircraft was depressurized, our cabin
> altitude went instantly from about 4,000 feet to
> 10,000 feet. With that drop in atmospheric pressure,
> the contents of the coffee maker instantly went to
> way above boiling and erupted all over the nav table
> AND the navigator!
>
> We finally put the aircraft into a "dirty" condition
> with flaps down and proceeded to burn off fuel for
> about 5 hours to get down to a safe landing weight.
>
> It was good that our bombardier still had all the
> arctic clothing in his A3 bag from his days in the
> B-36. We divvied his up stuff to stay warm until
> we could get home.
>
> A VERY long "short" day, for sure.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:16:17 -0800
> > From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose
> >
> > Funny that the Military should spend all that money developing the High
> > Altitude Coffee Maker that they used in the B.U.F.F.s and no way to elinate
> > the waste it created.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, OR
> > 78 GMC Royale 403
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:17 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's probably hard for most people to realize how
> > > little room there is inside a B-52!
> > >
> > > If you were more than about 5 feet 7 inches tall,
> > > you had to bend your upper body over to position
> > > yourself at the "relief" tube which was contained
> > > in a cylinder about six or seven inches in diameter
> > > that had a funnel at the top of it. Most of ours
> > > (B-52F) at Carswell AFB, TX (NW of Ft Worth) had a
> > > small sign put there by the ground maintenance folks
> > > that said, "We aim to please, sir. Would you also
> > > aim too, please, sir?" Corrosion of aluminum happens
> > > quite rapidly in the presence of urine!
> > >
> > > I guess I had some 1600 hours aloft in those birds
> > > back in 63-66.
> > >
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:05:58 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > >
> > > > Now this reminds me of a training session at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, IL.
> > > They took us out to a B-52 and showed us around the
> > > > aircraft. One of the guys was up in the tail gunners compartment and
> > > picked up this black tapered funnel with a hose attached to it
> > > > and put it up against his mouth and called "tail gunner to pilot, tail
> > > gunner to pilot." The instructor laughed and noted that he
> > > > doubted that he would get an answer as he was talking into the "P" tube!
> > > Much coughing, hacking, and spitting ensued!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Rob M.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ken Burton
> > > >
> > > > I'm wonder if that is better than the ketchup bottle with the bottom cut
> > > out and a short tube to the outside that we have been using
> > > > for years in our airplanes.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
>
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1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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| Re: [GMCnet] B-52 Tales / O.T. (was: RE: heated water hose) [message #154199 is a reply to message #154175] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 15:55 |
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Mac,
On behalf of Hamilton Standard I’d like to apologize for freezing your butt as that's who built the A/C system for the B-52's I
worked on.
I was a Mechanical Accessories Repairman and worked on the air conditioning, pressurization, liquid oxygen systems, and others of C
& D models at Westover AFB. I'll try and explain what happened when you depressurized the aircraft.
Please keep in mind that I'm seriously taxing the grey matter as it has been over 40 years since I worked on a B-52 so what I say
might not be 100% accurate.
The cabin pressure in a B-52 had two settings "normal" (I'm not of that nomenclature) and "combat." The delta pressure between the
cabin and ambient is limited to 7.45 psi in "normal" and 4.00 psi in "combat." The reason for the combat setting is to prevent
explosive decompression if the cockpit or tail gunner's compartment is breached by bullets or flak. Four psi is the minimum pressure
to keep your blood from boiling (out gassing nitrogen - AKA the bends) but there is not enough oxygen at that pressure to breath and
maintain life so crew members must also go on oxygen which is supplied by a liquid oxygen convertor in a B-52.
At 10,000 feet the ambient pressure outside the aircraft would have been 10.1 psia.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-altitude-pressure-d_462.html
If the pressurization system was set to "normal" the pressure in the cockpit would have been close to 14.7 psi but not over that. If
it was set to "combat" the pressure in the cockpit would have been 14.1.
The temperature of the water did not go way above boiling, as altitude increases the temperature it takes to boil water drops. At
14.7 psi water boils at 212° F. When the aircraft was depressurized the cockpit altitude increased to 10,000 feet and the pressure
decreased to 10.1. The boiling point of water at 10.1 psi is 193°F. That rapid 20° drop in the boiling point is why the coffee maker
erupted.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boiling-points-water-altitude-d_1344.html
I know, I know, more information than you needed! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
It's been way too many years ago, but I think we
just had a regular large coffee percolator that
just sat at the right rear of the pressurized crew
compartment. Since the aircraft was pressurized
there probably was no need for a "special" pot.
One February morning, about an hour into a long
flight, the A/C system went to full cold. Since we
were at something like 40,000 feet and it was
already about -50F outside, it was damned cold
inside the big sausage! Our command post, the
one at SAC Hq and also Boeing got into the act.
They finally decided that we could do nothing
to help the situation.
While waiting for that decision, we descended to
10,000 or below and depressurized in case a
crew member COULD do something in the bomb bay.
The coffee make was put on the navigator's table
to allow access to the hatch to the bomb bay.
When the aircraft was depressurized, our cabin
altitude went instantly from about 4,000 feet to
10,000 feet. With that drop in atmospheric pressure,
the contents of the coffee maker instantly went to
way above boiling and erupted all over the nav table
AND the navigator!
We finally put the aircraft into a "dirty" condition
with flaps down and proceeded to burn off fuel for
about 5 hours to get down to a safe landing weight.
It was good that our bombardier still had all the
arctic clothing in his A3 bag from his days in the
B-36. We divvied his up stuff to stay warm until
we could get home.
A VERY long "short" day, for sure.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] heated water hose [message #154203 is a reply to message #154196] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 16:23 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Registered: January 2004
Location: Chandler, AZ
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 23 December 2011 14:04 |
David,
It appears a simple task to add material to the waist band.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: David H. Jarvis
Very interesting.
I wonder if they have XL for me....
DJ
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Rob--that was brilliant !
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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