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[GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #153961] Wed, 21 December 2011 17:51 Go to next message
Gary Bovee is currently offline  Gary Bovee   United States
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If anyone is interested I just posted a pic on the GMC Photo Site of the latest wireless air system that I built. In the pic you will see the system is setting on a test bench that I also built so I can determine that the wireless air system is leak free and that the digital remote controller is functioning properly before installation.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=41908&title=test-bench&cat=5575

Gary Bovee
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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #153962 is a reply to message #153961] Wed, 21 December 2011 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Gary,

Does the black tank on the left of the picture represent an air bag?

By the way - that is a very clean set-up. Nice work!


Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach

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Subject: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System

If anyone is interested I just posted a pic on the GMC Photo Site of the latest wireless air system that I built. In the pic you will see the system is setting on a test bench that I also built so I can determine that the wireless air system is leak free and that the digital remote controller is functioning properly before installation.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=41908&title=test-bench&cat=5575

Gary Bovee
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Red Bluff, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #153985 is a reply to message #153962] Wed, 21 December 2011 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Bovee is currently offline  Gary Bovee   United States
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Larry,

Does the black tank on the left of the picture represent an air bag?

You are correct. The air tank works as the air bags so the system can build
up pressure. It also allows me to test the digital remote for individual
setting for each bag. A little confusing without seeing the remote work.
You can see in the picture there are two air pressure guages. This allows
me to determine if there is a leak on the digital manifold fittings or if
there is a leak coming from the the air tank fittings etc.

Thanks for the complement!

Gary








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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #153996 is a reply to message #153961] Wed, 21 December 2011 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey Gary;.

Sweet setup. I like it...

Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154011 is a reply to message #153961] Wed, 21 December 2011 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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Gary,


I terms of function and usage, how would this new system
be different/better than your first version?


All the way from Chico,


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154020 is a reply to message #154011] Wed, 21 December 2011 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Bovee is currently offline  Gary Bovee   United States
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Richard,

I found it to be fairly expensive to have the aluminum frame built like my
original one. After doing some looking around I remembered seeing pictures
of what Ray Erspamer air setup when he redid his air system some time ago.
I contacted him and he said he used UHMW plastic material and it has held up
great. So I ordered some and built the frame using it instead of aluminum.
Works great. Easy to work with. You can cut it with a table saw. Drills
easily. That solves a problem for someone trying to figure out what to use
to build a frame. It looks great when you are done.

The wireless kit in the pic is different than the one I installed on my
coach 15 months ago. Same part number, but new an improved. The digital
remote has a number of icons that mine does not have such as low battery,
leak detected, fail indicator for valve blockage or communication failure
and more.

The two(2) connections on the digital manifold are the easy slip in style
instead of the old style connector that you had to use a wrench to tighten
like mine.

The new wireless air system comes with the digital remote mated with the
digital manifold. No more having to tough the two together on setup to try
and get them to recognize each other.

There are now only two (2) wire to hook-up to the coach with this setup as
compared to three (3) my old one. One wire goes to ground and the other to
the ignition switch.

Those are the main difference. Not a lot, but a few.

Gary



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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154024 is a reply to message #154020] Thu, 22 December 2011 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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Nice report.


My air system is still dead.

Maybe I could talk you into some kind of deal
to fix mine up? Maybe?


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach

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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154028 is a reply to message #153961] Thu, 22 December 2011 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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If you are not up to date on what
WIRELESS AIR is, look here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/wireless.html

nice update
gene


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Gary Bovee <gcbgold@digitalpath.net> wrote:

> If anyone is interested I just posted a pic on the GMC Photo Site of the
> latest wireless air system that I built. In the pic you will see the
> system is setting on a test bench that I also built so I can determine that
> the wireless air system is leak free and that the digital remote controller
> is functioning properly before installation.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=41908&title=test-bench&cat=5575
>
> Gary Bovee
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Red Bluff, CA
> Free – Idiot’s Internet Guide to Finding 1973-1978 GMC Information
> http://www.gmceast.com/about/guide/index.html
> Alternator & Air Conditioning Belt Tensioner Adjustors
> http://www.bdub.net/bovee/
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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154039 is a reply to message #154020] Thu, 22 December 2011 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Well, gee, Gary. I need to update my illustration that goes in John
Shotwell's presentation so Gene can update his illustration in his
presentation that compares the two systems as far as total parts and mess
is concerned. Otherwise, some fool will wonder where the wire went when
they get their new wireless in.

Great job thinking through the test bench.

So, when are you going to put together a drop-in, pre-assembled, turn-key
solution? You could probably get rich in two lifetimes.

Byron

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bovee <gcbgold@digitalpath.net>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:08:55 -0800
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System

>Richard,
>
>I found it to be fairly expensive to have the aluminum frame built like
>my
>original one. After doing some looking around I remembered seeing
>pictures
>of what Ray Erspamer air setup when he redid his air system some time
>ago.
>I contacted him and he said he used UHMW plastic material and it has held
>up
>great. So I ordered some and built the frame using it instead of
>aluminum.
>Works great. Easy to work with. You can cut it with a table saw.
>Drills
>easily. That solves a problem for someone trying to figure out what to
>use
>to build a frame. It looks great when you are done.
>
>The wireless kit in the pic is different than the one I installed on my
>coach 15 months ago. Same part number, but new an improved. The digital
>remote has a number of icons that mine does not have such as low battery,
>leak detected, fail indicator for valve blockage or communication failure
>and more.
>
>The two(2) connections on the digital manifold are the easy slip in style
>instead of the old style connector that you had to use a wrench to
>tighten
>like mine.
>
>The new wireless air system comes with the digital remote mated with the
>digital manifold. No more having to tough the two together on setup to
>try
>and get them to recognize each other.
>
>There are now only two (2) wire to hook-up to the coach with this setup
>as
>compared to three (3) my old one. One wire goes to ground and the other
>to
>the ignition switch.
>
>Those are the main difference. Not a lot, but a few.
>
>Gary
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154044 is a reply to message #154024] Thu, 22 December 2011 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Bovee is currently offline  Gary Bovee   United States
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Richard,

Make me an offer I can't refuse.

Gary

Mine air system is still dead.

Maybe I could talk you into some kind of deal
to fix mine up? Maybe?
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Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California

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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154047 is a reply to message #154039] Thu, 22 December 2011 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Bovee is currently offline  Gary Bovee   United States
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Byron,

I keep getting emails from GMCers asking me the same question.
"When are you going to put together a drop-in, pre-assembled, turn-key
solution?".

It looks like the answer to that question may be coming as soon as next
month. I don't know if there will be much of a demand for a drop in kit
because it won't be cheap. Parts are expensive. I'm not ready to quote a
price just yet.

I wish I knew if there is much interest in me providing such a kit that
would help me make up my mind. Anyone who thinks they might be interested
please send me an email at gmcidiotsguide@gmail.com.

Thanks,

Gary


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Re: [GMCnet] Wireless Air System [message #154134 is a reply to message #154044] Thu, 22 December 2011 23:50 Go to previous message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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I am easy.


Name your price!



Thanks


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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