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| Rear door Options [message #153842] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 23:49  |
seven
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Due to the fact my traiter project is to be designed as a Race trailer, I have to have the rear open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQL-tNbD6IY&feature=youtu.be
I do like this option and have studied it over and over
But I think I want to split it with the top lifting as it will be light because the window will be filled in, I am working on air rams to actuate it, But also have the bottom have to drop, I do like the way this one works (Im sure you will all reconize the video) I do feel if I extend the back down and have pivot at a lower level (Redo the rear frame) I will not have as much a an angle to deal with as well a flat floor right to the rear, Just thinking this all out,
Any thoughts even some suggestions on methods?
Two more videos enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5dSB_sfCQo&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjELpHBrkv0&feature=youtu.be
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: Rear door Options [message #153848 is a reply to message #153842] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 00:15  |
Ken Burton
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Notice in that clip the rear bumper and spare tire moved with the door rather than being fixed to the frame.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options [message #153877 is a reply to message #153842] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 08:05 |
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USAussie
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Jay,
Randy Johnson has built a 23' GMC with an opening rear door to transport his Mini's inside. Here's some pictures:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1892
http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/redwood%20falls_2011/redwood005.jpg
http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/May_2011/053.jpg
http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/May_2011/055.jpg
http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/Faribault_2010/IMG_1224.jpg
http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/Faribault_2010/IMG_1227.jpg
JimB down at the Coop was building a 23' GMC for a band that had an opening rear door similar to the one pictured above.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Fox
Due to the fact my traiter project is to be designed as a Race trailer, I have to have the rear open.
I do like this option and have studied it over and over
But I think I want to split it with the top lifting as it will be light because the window will be filled in, I am working on air
rams to actuate it, But also have the bottom have to drop, I do like the way this one works (Im sure you will all reconize the
video) I do feel if I extend the back down and have pivot at a lower level (Redo the rear frame) I will not have as much a an angle
to deal with as well a flat floor right to the rear, Just thinking this all out,
Any thoughts even some suggestions on methods?
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| Re: Rear door Options [message #153894 is a reply to message #153842] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 09:28 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| seven wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 22:49 |
Due to the fact my traiter project is to be designed as a Race trailer, I have to have the rear open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQL-tNbD6IY&feature=youtu.be
I do like this option and have studied it over and over
But I think I want to split it with the top lifting as it will be light because the window will be filled in, I am working on air rams to actuate it, But also have the bottom have to drop, I do like the way this one works (Im sure you will all reconize the video) I do feel if I extend the back down and have pivot at a lower level (Redo the rear frame) I will not have as much a an angle to deal with as well a flat floor right to the rear, Just thinking this all out,
Any thoughts even some suggestions on methods?
Two more videos enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5dSB_sfCQo&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjELpHBrkv0&feature=youtu.be
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During my years with GM I got involved with some of the outfits that created the vehicle props for these movies and they are nothing short of amazing. i always felt that it was like playing and being paid for it!
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Rear door Options [message #154003 is a reply to message #153842] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 21:36 |
seven
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I think I will build without the fire power, Not much need for that up in Canada, Well could be handy to clear traffic,
Very interested in powered actuaters though, To run a split back door,
Split half way down with the bottom dropping with a lower hinge point at the bottom of a flat frame as opposed the stock rear frame that heads upwards, If it drop from the lowest spot will it decrease the angle and allow a flat floor all the way to the back wall, With horizontal actuaters laying flat on each side as well two more to lift the upper door, In my head it seems easy to design and build, So we will see, Start this one in Febuary after the unit is closed in and towable.
http://www.firgelliauto.com/default.php?cPath=116
Jay Fox
Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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| Re: Rear door Options [message #154022 is a reply to message #154003] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 23:49 |
Adrien G.
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Jay,
The rear door system will need a frame structure just inside the rear panel to stabilize the body and mount the door actuators.
Does anyone know of pic of such frame structures?
A garage door spring and cable may be a (KISS) way for the ramp (lower door) to operate.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: Rear door Options [message #154045 is a reply to message #153848] |
Thu, 22 December 2011 09:38 |
bryant374
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Re: Rear door Options Wed, 21 December 2011 01:15
Ken Burton
Notice in that clip the rear bumper and spare tire moved with the door rather than being fixed to the frame.
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According to GMC Engineers, the original one off GMC trailer had the bumper rotate with the rear door/ramp. Was also told the rear bumper was stainless, not chrome plated, why....they didn't know.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options [message #154220 is a reply to message #154219] |
Fri, 23 December 2011 18:54 |
Dolph Santorine
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Right hand drive to boot. Woo Hoo!
The current iteration is significantly bigger, and a lot more refined, but just as much fun (and is reliable transportation).
Eldest daughter has put 70,000 miles on hers (the one she kinda suckered dear old Dad out of... in a very good way).
Dolph
On Dec 23, 2011, at 7:49 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> That is either an Austin or a Morris Mini. Made in England. That particular
> model is known as a "Shooting Brake" or a pie wagon, or more simply a
> wagon. Made in the 60's. Went like jet stink, broke often. My mother in law
> and father in law had one of the Austin Mini Coopers with the big cams and
> carbs. It broke more often than the others did. Went like he##, and
> cornered like a bowling ball going down a mail chute. Real fun basic
> transportation.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
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> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:38 PM, David Morrison <davidlive@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> does anyone know what kind of car that is he's got in the picture ?
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>> http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/redwood%20falls_2011/redwood005.jpg
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>> I've never seen one like that.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options [message #154245 is a reply to message #154235] |
Sat, 24 December 2011 04:31 |
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Byron,
It's a Mini Moke.
Â
Rob M.
----- Original Message -----
From:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
To:
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:11:37 -0500
Subject:Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
He had a vehicle made in Australia at GMCMI in Texas in spring of 2010
and
again at DuQuoin that fall. This fall at Goshen he was packing
something
else. I believe he also switched from a 23 to a 26 Eleganza.
Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
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-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Bowker
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:39:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
>It's a Mini Austin station wagon.
>Norm.
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>--- On Fri, 12/23/11, David Morrison wrote:
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>does anyone know what kind of car that is he's got in the picture ?
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>http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/redwood%20falls_2011/redwood005.j
>pg
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>I've never seen one like that.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options [message #154247 is a reply to message #154245] |
Sat, 24 December 2011 07:25 |
peter bailey
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If it is the red car reversing from the rear of the GMC it is a morris mini
woody wagon (also could be badged as an Austin in some countries)
Definately not a mini moke. mini moke has no doors and generally a canvas
roof and resembles a small army jeep.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
----- Original Message -----
From: <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
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> Byron,
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> It's a Mini Moke.
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> Rob M.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent:Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:11:37 -0500
> Subject:Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
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> He had a vehicle made in Australia at GMCMI in Texas in spring of 2010
> and
> again at DuQuoin that fall. This fall at Goshen he was packing
> something
> else. I believe he also switched from a 23 to a 26 Eleganza.
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
> News and Web Editor, GMC Eastern States
> http://www.gmceast.com
>
> Sights to see and places to stay Â- -
> Find or submit a GMCer recommendation.
> http://www.gmceast.com/travel
> Several submissions received in the last month
> to be posted before the new year
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norm Bowker
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:39:25 -0800 (PST)
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
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>>It's a Mini Austin station wagon.
>>Norm.
>>
>>--- On Fri, 12/23/11, David Morrison wrote:
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>>does anyone know what kind of car that is he's got in the picture ?
>>
>>http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/redwood%20falls_2011/redwood005.j
>>pg
>>
>>I've never seen one like that.
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| [GMCnet] Johnson's Moke [message #154274 is a reply to message #154247] |
Sat, 24 December 2011 14:34 |
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Dumb US citizen here -- the vehicle of which I was speaking can be found
on the GMCMH photo site.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32727
If that isn't a Moke then I'll eat the car. Dan Gregg snapped this photo.
I have four others of it backing out of the 26-foot GMC at the Montgomery
convention in the spring of 2010.
As I stated in an earlier email in another thread that has been hijacked,
it was also present at DuQuoin unless my memory is all screwed up.
Rob correctly identified the vehicle probably because he, like and others,
have seen it face-to-face.
Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Bailey <bugeye@internode.on.net>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:55:39 +1030
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
>If it is the red car reversing from the rear of the GMC it is a morris
>mini
>woody wagon (also could be badged as an Austin in some countries)
>Definately not a mini moke. mini moke has no doors and generally a canvas
>roof and resembles a small army jeep.
>Peter Bailey
>from Ozy (Aussie)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
>To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 9:01 PM
>Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
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>> Byron,
>>
>> It's a Mini Moke.
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>>
>> Rob M.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Sent:Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:11:37 -0500
>> Subject:Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
>>
>> He had a vehicle made in Australia at GMCMI in Texas in spring of 2010
>> and
>> again at DuQuoin that fall. This fall at Goshen he was packing
>> something
>> else. I believe he also switched from a 23 to a 26 Eleganza.
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> Louisville, KY
>> News and Web Editor, GMC Eastern States
>> http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>> Sights to see and places to stay ¡©- -
>> Find or submit a GMCer recommendation.
>> http://www.gmceast.com/travel
>> Several submissions received in the last month
>> to be posted before the new year
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Norm Bowker
>> Reply-To:
>> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:39:25 -0800 (PST)
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rear door Options
>>
>>>It's a Mini Austin station wagon.
>>>Norm.
>>>
>>>--- On Fri, 12/23/11, David Morrison wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>does anyone know what kind of car that is he's got in the picture ?
>>>
>>>http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/images/redwood%20falls_2011/redwood005
>>>.j
>>>pg
>>>
>>>I've never seen one like that.
>>>_______________________________________________
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