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Tue, 20 December 2011 16:50  |
CardinalNSB
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Thanks for replies so far. I'm learning alot, venting, anti-freeze in
jpipe, fans. BUT I don't see my 1990 "Aqua Magic" listed in the Thetford parts
list. Surely there has been advances in technology that might point to
replacement instead of tracking down NOS parts. So, if you were replacing
your short toilet, what would you pick? and why? I assume the advertised
"ball valves" are an improvement over my "slicer" style valve? I'm handy
enough to install an electric macerator style and repair it. But is that any
better than a gravity style as far as odor control? Is there any
advantage to ripping out the box stand and using a taller toilet? Is the ceramic
bowl helpful? Thanks, Skip Simpson
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153779 is a reply to message #153775] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 17:13  |
GeorgeRud
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I for one love the taller toilets (or I should say that my knees really appreciate the increased height). Whether you decide to go for a ceramic or regular material for the toilet is probably just a matter of personal choice. Perhaps they are easier to clean???????
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153791 is a reply to message #153775] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 18:43 |
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USAussie
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Skip,
I am currently doing my homework to replace the OEM 1975 Aqua Matic in Double Trouble.
Frankly it all depends on how much money you want to spend. The plastic toilets are the cheapest and the china toilets are more
expensive.
As I understand it the "slicer" type valve is more prone to getting stuck open than the ball type. When Helen and I attended the
GMCMI Convention in Harrington, Delaware our next door neighbor had a flood in his GMC. Turns out that a bit of toilet paper got
stuck in between the slicer and where it seated in the housing. It sealed off the bowl but was just enough to keep the supply valve
open a bit. I was standing outside when they opened their door in the morning and there was a mini Niagara Falls when it opened!
Fortunately the bowl was empty and it was just clean water.
The other difference is the location of the fill / flush valve(s) some bowls have two levers some have one. Some of them have the
levers located in front, some on the side.
The top of the line bowls have a button that fills and flushes using electric solenoids (I guess). I subscribe to the KISS principle
and that's getting a bit too complicated for me.
As far as the macerator type goes it is not really desirable in our situation, it makes more sense to install a macerator in
parallel with the 3" dump line so you can pump the poop out into any drain that is 1 1/2" inches and not have to find a dump site.
I'm considering the high toilets with a ceramic bowl. I have to show the short list to the lady of the house as she sits on it for
two bodily functions and I only one therefore her wishes are more important than mine! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: CardinalNSB@aol.com
Thanks for replies so far. I'm learning alot, venting, anti-freeze in
jpipe, fans. BUT I don't see my 1990 "Aqua Magic" listed in the Thetford parts
list. Surely there has been advances in technology that might point to
replacement instead of tracking down NOS parts. So, if you were replacing
your short toilet, what would you pick? and why? I assume the advertised
"ball valves" are an improvement over my "slicer" style valve? I'm handy
enough to install an electric macerator style and repair it. But is that any
better than a gravity style as far as odor control? Is there any
advantage to ripping out the box stand and using a taller toilet? Is the ceramic
bowl helpful? Thanks, Skip Simpson
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153794 is a reply to message #153775] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 19:00 |
JohnL455
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I took out the OEM extra cost optional recirculating toilet and put in the Thetford ceramic bowl flushing type. After living many years on R and R tour busses in the old days, many had the recirculating toilets. The disadvantage is you are exposed to the fumes of the disinfectant you add in the top part water as well as the waste itself. Going with the more modern type was one of the first major improvements I made. The Ceramic is easier to clean and stays new looking longer.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153798 is a reply to message #153796] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 19:30 |
roy1
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| ahamilto wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 17:08 |
Ignorant question: What, exactly, does a recirculating toilet recirculate?
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Every thing you add to the toilet water ,as my wife would say gross. The strainer does filter it though.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153799 is a reply to message #153798] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 19:32 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| roy1 wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 18:30 |
| ahamilto wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 17:08 |
Ignorant question: What, exactly, does a recirculating toilet recirculate?
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Every thing you add to the toilet water ,as my wife would say gross. The strainer does filter it though.
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Good question but bad timing. I was just munching down on a nice rare steak (:
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153837 is a reply to message #153796] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 22:25 |
midlf
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| ahamilto wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 19:08 |
Ignorant question: What, exactly, does a recirculating toilet recirculate?
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I told the CFO that we were going to replace our recirculating Thedford toilet. She asked "why". I explained how it worked. She said "so you want to replace it because of that reason, you're a smart man!"
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153854 is a reply to message #153779] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 03:07 |
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mike miller
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| GeorgeRud wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 15:13 |
I for one love the taller toilets (or I should say that my knees really appreciate the increased height). Whether you decide to go for a ceramic or regular material for the toilet is probably just a matter of personal choice. Perhaps they are easier to clean???????
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In a prior message Skip stated "I have a rear dry bath 23'."
While there where a few different "rear dry bath 23'" coaches, I suspect he has the most common one: A Rear Bath Birchaven.
If so, the toilet is a low profile unit because it is mounted on a pedestal. The pedestal is needed because the floor isn't level under it. (The toilet is mounted above were the floor angles up to the rear hatch.) With the OEM toilet, many people need a box to to stand on to sit comfortably on the throne. My PO provided one with the coach.
Skip,
Unless you move the stool, you really should stay with a low profile unit. And ceramic is better. Other than that... I do not know.
Also, if you put a signature on the end of your email with your coach year, model and your location, you are likely to get "better" more appropriate advice.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153869 is a reply to message #153854] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 07:05 |
Ken Henderson
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"Tell me about it!"
When I remodeled the X-Birchaven in '98-'99, I installed a plastic,
blade gate, toilet. After fighting the "trapped paper in the gasket"
leak for all those years, a couple of years ago SHE insisted on a new
toilet. Unfortunately SHE accompanied me to the RV surplus dealer
near Lazy Days. They had nice porcelain toilets with ball valves in
either low or high profile. Despite my having her sit (skirt down) on
both versions with them setting on the elevated base of the showcase,
SHE INSISTED on the high profile.
SHE now keeps a stool in the bath tub for HER use when raising her
skirt. I tried to tell HER that skirt was affecting her judgement.
My toes still touch the floor.
Ken H.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
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> While there where a few different "rear dry bath 23'" coaches, I suspect he has the most common one: A Rear Bath Birchaven.
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> If so, the toilet is a low profile unit because it is mounted on a pedestal. Â The pedestal is needed because the floor isn't level under it. Â (The toilet is mounted above were the floor angles up to the rear hatch.) Â With the OEM toilet, many people need a box to to stand on to sit comfortably on the throne. Â My PO provided one with the coach.
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153870 is a reply to message #153869] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 07:31 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
Something about horses and water comes to mind, kinda. ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
"Tell me about it!"
When I remodeled the X-Birchaven in '98-'99, I installed a plastic,
blade gate, toilet. After fighting the "trapped paper in the gasket"
leak for all those years, a couple of years ago SHE insisted on a new
toilet. Unfortunately SHE accompanied me to the RV surplus dealer
near Lazy Days. They had nice porcelain toilets with ball valves in
either low or high profile. Despite my having her sit (skirt down) on
both versions with them setting on the elevated base of the showcase,
SHE INSISTED on the high profile.
SHE now keeps a stool in the bath tub for HER use when raising her
skirt. I tried to tell HER that skirt was affecting her judgement.
My toes still touch the floor.
Ken H.
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153874 is a reply to message #153837] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 07:55 |
Ray Erspamer
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I would guess that would be the reasoning of any woman on this subject.....
but, good enough reason for me also !
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 10:25:49 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet
ahamilto wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 19:08
> Ignorant question: What, exactly, does a recirculating toilet recirculate?
I told the CFO that we were going to replace our recirculating Thedford toilet.
She asked "why". I explained how it worked. She said "so you want to replace
it because of that reason, you're a smart man!"
--
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] best replacement toilet [message #153887 is a reply to message #153775] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 08:58 |
Carl S.
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At my wife's insistence (after a particularly smelly July camping trip) I replaced our original recirculating toilet with one of these:
http://www.dometic.com/enus/Americas/USA/RV-Products/Toilets/toilet-display-page/?productdataid=91878
The high profile, in 'bone' fits perfectly and is the perfect color for a standard wet bath. It works great and has a re-buildable flush valve that is accessible from the side, so removal of the toilet is not required for servicing.
I also use 'Pure Power' in the holding tank:
http://purepowerdealers.com/PurePowerBrochure.asp
It is non toxic and works well to control odor and break down 'solids'.
We are very happy with this set-up.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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